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whats the best setup for HID's
ive been looking around for some HIDs and im not really sure where to go or what to go with..ive been lookin on ebay. and they have a clear projector housing with HIDS and they have the black projector housing with HIDs..but i was wondering if i could maybe even get some opinions on what ya'll have done and how much it costed u
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SakeBomb Garage is the only way
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pics?
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did they offer the kit for FCs?>
I remember there being talk about, aint going to go through a 28 page thread that seems to be alot of dick swinging |
Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
(Post 10449718)
did they offer the kit for FCs?>
I remember there being talk about, aint going to go through a 28 page thread that seems to be alot of dick swinging They are finishing the run of them now. Only 15 of us ended up paying for them. Josh |
most guys with $2k cars aint spending $800+ on headlights
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basic headlights and 3k light bulbs for the fog lights are best setups.
are cars are too old to look good with HID's IMO |
yeah ... but i can't see shit at night with the oems, almost hit a deer one night cause i couldnt see a damn thing in the rain..i might just end up going with the ebay black housing projectors with 10000k hids and maybe find an s5 front bumper and get some fogs with it
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I've also used Cibie housings with hidextra 6000k H4 bixenon kit. It works a -lot- better than stock for light output. I'd rather go the projector route. The headlamps on my 2011 Toyota make the reflector housing HID setup look horrible.
I'd stick with something like Cibie or Hella housings with high power halogen lamps if you need good lighting and reasonable prices. You could get housings and lights for less than $130. |
this seems to be the source of the magic behind the $900 kits
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php?cPath=25 |
yeah the ones im lookin at on ebay are hids and housings 110 bucks out the door with shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7X6-H...#ht_6683wt_939 |
nothing compared to the other kits, the cut off will suck and you will be blinding people, it will look cooler but perform marginally better
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do wha?
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im thinking something like this: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=237
this is basically what is in the kit people paid $900 for |
I did a hid/projector conversion on my ninja. It didn't cost 800$! http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/a...6/de83395c.jpg http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/a...6/IMG_0016.jpg My Setup on my zx6r: Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini H4 Morimoto H4 Bulbs DDM Tuning slim motorcycle ballasts (set on top of air-ram intake, so it had to be small) Harness rewired into new loom so it's ninja approved with the relay in the trunk and grounded to the battery (all aluminum bike = no ground spots). Ideal Setup for FC: Bi-xenon Morimoto HID Kit from the retrofitsource $295 Pair of generic H4 sealed-beam housings $20 Thats just $315 for a nice setup. The sealed housings can be opened, tiny reflector in the center removed, and these quality projectors installed. It will allow factory high/low and adjustment (adjust the headlight like factory), all with a nice cut off and light output. Crazy mother fuckers charging $800. lolol PS do not install "projector rings". They attach by cheezy plastic clips. One hard landed wheelie and they fell off and were stuck inside the headlight. Removing them completely does not affect light output and it doesn't bleed. I can picture it happening on an FC when you hit a pothole. |
hey people got to eat, I am just learning about this shit now thanks to hypertek and now you, I went to the retrofit website and its pretty helpful and they even have group buy pricing
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
(Post 10450146)
hey people got to eat, I am just learning about this shit now thanks to hypertek and now you, I went to the retrofit website and its pretty helpful and they even have group buy pricing
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shit the mini kits are drop in, dont even have to drill out the housings
I have DOT housings, hopefully if a cop breaks my balls he will see DOT on the housings and leave me alone, not like he wont have much more shit to bust me for, lol |
im new to this whole retro fit game...how hard would it be do retrofit the projectors into the stock housings?
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you cant into stock housings, you need h4 housings
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
(Post 10450158)
shit the mini kits are drop in, dont even have to drill out the housings
I have DOT housings, hopefully if a cop breaks my balls he will see DOT on the housings and leave me alone, not like he wont have much more shit to bust me for, lol |
Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
(Post 10450184)
The minis don't fit so a "drop in" is not possible.
it says for h4 housings, so what am I missing? |
im missing a step by step guide haha ... im not creative enough to do it on my own nor do i have the patience if i fuck it up lol ... but if i got a step by step guide i could do it
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
(Post 10450186)
well lets be real here, I dont consider anything to truly drop in, but a little trimming or sanding grinding is pretty much drop in
it says for h4 housings, so what am I missing? |
Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
(Post 10450193)
The projector is bigger than the housing so there is more than trimming and cutting.
"Disassemble headlights, insert threaded mounting shaft of the projector through the pre-existing hole in the back of your reflector bucket, tighten the stack with the included hardware, and you're virtually done. These are naturally compatible with H4 and H7 reflectors, but will fit all others. " Existing Equipment Current setup: Standard halogen headlights Vehicles Wide variety of cars, trucks, sport bikes (if you are unsure, contact TRS today) Ideal Upgrade For Vehicles that use 9003, 9004, 9007, H4, H13 halogen bulbs (H4 adapter plates included) |
Not really it says if your not sure give them a call and i'm pretty sure they will say it's not a direct fit for a h6054 housing.
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
(Post 10450184)
The minis don't fit so a "drop in" is not possible.
You should be able to bake the new headlights to peel the housing and lenses apart. Remove the tiny reflector. The projector (with correct H4 adapter washers) will thread through the front of the housing and lock in place behind with a giant nut. You may then rtv the lenses back on. However, I forgot that in this application, there will be no backing to protect the pertruding part of the housing and somewhat exposed bulb. So a backing or "dust cover" will have to be fabricated (fiberglass?). And the headlights rotate, so you would have to make sure there is a few inches behind and under it to rotate. Crap. I forgot about that part. Even still, a bit of fabbing and creativness is still bundles under 800$ im sure. |
Originally Posted by tuscanidream
(Post 10450234)
A quick search yielded that the oem headlights are "86-97 Mazda RX7 7x6 H6054". This means that you should be able to purchase a replacement (H4 sealed headlamp) that is a two piece design that allows a removable H4 bulb to be inserted instead of built in.
You should be able to bake the new headlights to peel the housing and lenses apart. Remove the tiny reflector. The projector (with correct H4 adapter washers) will thread through the front of the housing and lock in place behind with a giant nut. You may then rtv the lenses back on. However, I forgot that in this application, there will be no backing to protect the pertruding part of the housing and somewhat exposed bulb. So a backing or "dust cover" will have to be fabricated (fiberglass?). And the headlights rotate, so you would have to make sure there is a few inches behind and under it to rotate. Crap. I forgot about that part. Even still, a bit of fabbing and creativness is still bundles under 800$ im sure. Once again you can't just stick the projector in and screw it on it does not fit, even with sanding and a little cutting it does not fit if you don't believe me then go ahead and buy the materials and try it. |
of course its not a drop in for the original sealed beamed lights.
ill see what they say, none of the reviews mention having to fab a dust plate |
Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
(Post 10450251)
Once again you can't just stick the projector in and screw it on it does not fit, even with sanding and a little cutting it does not fit don't believe me then go ahead and buy the materials and try it.
they sell a h4 it, a h4 housing is a h4 housing, period. and tuscan installed them in his bike, I cant see space being any more limited then a bike |
Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
(Post 10450255)
of course its not a drop in for the original sealed beamed lights.
ill see what they say, none of the reviews mention having to fab a dust plate I just saw your other post, I'll say this again, the projector is too big for the housing so it does not fit. |
instead of being vague why dont you offer up what you have to back up what you are saying.
Someone you know or yourself bought the mini kit that I linked and it did not fit, the kit that is sold for h4 housings? |
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I don't have anything to back it up except my experience and it doesn't fit. A traingle doesn't fit into a circle hole but we don't need an example because we already know, it's the same concept.
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i was just searching around, I see you did it but used the larger e55 shrouds, are you sure that is not the issue? Maybe if you had used a more compact shroud?
why didnt you link your thread instead of your vague answers that offer no information |
That's for a fd which use a different housing I don't have anything documented for a fc yet.
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The only thing that makes them headlamp specific (H4, H1 or whatnot) is a lock washer or spacer thing that fits the reflector specifically. It's been a year since I installed them I can't quite picture it in my head.
Here's a youtube video of them not installed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFF2XoZJIBo My ninja has a back housing separate from the reflector. In my case, the headlight housing would seal the whole reflector and projector together. http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/a...6/ffe3935b.jpg In the case of a headlight for an FC, the back of the projector where the locking nut and bulb goes in would be exposed. The video has some overall measurements. I would take some measurements of an FC headlight and see what you have for clearance in the car. The projector can also be attached by 4 holes on the bracket near the lenses. You could make a fiberglass housing that attaches to the lenses, comes to bolt the projector in the 4 bolt holes, extends more outward and closer together past the end of the projector with a hole for the grommet. Could even mold and sell them dirt cheap as long as the dimensions in overall length work with the FC. It's worth the effort to have quality projectors if you want HID's. The ebay conversion kits are crap. |
im guessing its worthwhile to black out the headlights when you remove the reflectors?
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http://www.high-intensity.org/forums...read.php?t=853
^^^^ This guy did a hack job and just cut a hole in the reflector and let the back of the projector be exposed, buy you get the idea. Making a new backing from fiberglass to mount and cover the projector wouldn't be tough for some one skilled with fiberglass. |
Originally Posted by tuscanidream
(Post 10450422)
http://www.high-intensity.org/forums...read.php?t=853
^^^^ This guy did a hack job and just cut a hole in the reflector and let the back of the projector be exposed, buy you get the idea. Making a new backing from fiberglass to mount and cover the projector wouldn't be tough for some one skilled with fiberglass. i know a thing or two about fiberglass |
There was a thread where a guy retrofitted Acura TSX projectors into his FC and it worked perfect. I can't find the darn thread now though. I could have sworn it was in the FC archive.
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It was njgreenbud, he had them for sale but said he couldnt get his lights to go down because of how far the projector stuck out the back of the housing. Im sure a quick call would get this "will it wont it" question sorted out
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there are different projectors, some obviously deeper then others.
The HID guys have said the area behind the lights will need to be modified a little bit, its been so long since I have had the lights out I dont even remember what it looks like bac there. Retrofit already sold tons of conversions for FDs and FCs so its not a question of IF its a question of people jumping in and doing it, or paying someone else to do it like sakebomb, my local modifier told me about $650- $700 with supplying everything including spraying the inside of the housings, but I am sure this is something I can handle especially considering they sell plug and play harness/relays there are actually dedicated hid retro forums with alot of good information on them |
Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
(Post 10449874)
most guys with $2k cars aint spending $800+ on headlights
True. That's a grip of money for something one really doesn't "need". I love my raybrigs. |
Great pics reger. Definetly post some pics up when you get the new lenses on.
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reger- why not try moving the projector back to use the original lens?
is it because you cannot have anything to mount it to? if you looked at sake bombs pictures on the trs forum you can see where they used 2 part foam when they did the FD lights, I still cant figure that one out im wondering if thats what they used to hold the projectors in place eliminating the need to fabricate a new part for the rear of the light. My idea is to make a fiberglass shroud for the back part of the light, I just have other things going on right now but will have these lights sorted out by the spring. |
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