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Juiceh 11-22-08 01:45 AM

What Rear Strut bars are Tein EDFC compatible?
 
Recently I have been looking for a rear strut bar and then realized that some of them may not be compatible with the Tein EDFC system.
http://www.tein.com/products/edfc.html
The older Tein EDFC system had larger motors. I will post a picture comparing the size differences tommorow since I have both.

Here is a pic of the old EDFC motors on an FC. Yes, the camber plate is installed 90 degrees in the wrong direction in this pic.
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1525/edfcmq8.jpg

I was going to buy a Corksport bar because the bar was nice and thick and could possibly be used to wrap a harness around it. But then I noticed the corksport design may interfere with the EDFC motors. Here is a pic of the corksport bar.
http://corksport.com/store/image/a5c..._Bar_-Rear.jpg


The cusco rear bar on the other hand would not interfere at all. Here is a pic of the cusco bar.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/644/cuscoreargw1.jpg

I believe I once saw a Mazdaspeed rear bar that had a design that would not interfere with the EDFC but I can't find a pic of it.

Anyone know of any other rear strut bars that may work? If you guys have pics of others post em up please.

Agent_D 11-22-08 01:57 AM

if i recall the tanabe rear bar would also be fine. the ebay cheapo's also would work. and i do believe you are correct about the MS being ok as well.

Hypertek 11-22-08 01:57 AM

ill go out tomarrow and peak at my jic bar and let you know *i dont recall what the mounts look like, but it might be simular to the cusco

Agent_D 11-22-08 02:45 AM

http://www.mazdatrix.com/pictures/h-...earStrut-B.jpg

that isn't the MS rear bar, but i believe it is exactly the same mount setup.

Juiceh 11-22-08 10:02 AM

Yep, that looks pretty much like what the mazdaspeed one looks like IIRC.

Juiceh 11-23-08 12:38 PM

Here is a comparison of the old EDFC motors vs the new ones.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8...motors2wm1.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6...motors1yo8.jpg

Hypertek 11-23-08 01:33 PM

jic is out of the question
http://i36.tinypic.com/2qsc8cp.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/qs2wwp.jpg

Juiceh 11-23-08 03:08 PM

Does anyone have pics of the Mazdaspeed bar?

Agent_D 11-23-08 05:34 PM

I searched for while, and couldn't come up with any pics, but someone described it and it was the same as the pic i posted from the mazdatrix website, with the open ends. However, I don't know how close to the shaft it would be, so it still may not work.

pistones 11-23-08 09:42 PM

wow, this is good to know before i bought a strut bar. i just installed the edfc motors too.

blackedoutFC3S 11-23-08 10:17 PM

Here Juice, hopefully this helps you out

http://www.rinkya.com/twview.pl?URL=...ion/c196093859

Juiceh 11-23-08 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by blackedoutFC3S (Post 8745253)
Here Juice, hopefully this helps you out

http://www.rinkya.com/twview.pl?URL=...ion/c196093859

Thanks!

Here are pics of the mazdaspeed rear strut bar that will stay up after the auction is over:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8...1500004yp8.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2...1500003do1.jpg

Now I gotta figure out how to bid on that bar. :( This looks like exactly what I want. Its 2x the price of the TC Sportline bar though. I wish there was a pic of it mounted with the shock towers uncovered.

Hypertek 11-23-08 10:49 PM

my guess is that the mounts just go flat up against the tower walls, and you drill 2 holes thru it in which the bar meets up with it, so it never really passes thru the wall.

Rob XX 7 11-24-08 04:53 PM

your going to use a rear strut bar on a convertible?

Juiceh 11-24-08 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Rob XX 7 (Post 8747179)
your going to use a rear strut bar on a convertible?

Not sure yet. Was thinking about using the bar to wrap my harness around. However the other night I wrapped the harness around the roll bar and it seems like it might be ok that way. I created this thread because I was toying with that idea and then realized the EDFC compatibility issue and decided it would be a good idea to make this thread so that info could help others and possibly myself. :D

Turbo II Rotor 11-24-08 09:35 PM

I have the TSportline rear bar. It bolts in using factory holes in the speaker tower. It looks damn close to that MS bar as far as I can tell from those pics. It should not interfere with your EDFC motors. I can take a pic of it in a week or so if you still need one by then. My car is on the other side of the state. :(

Juiceh 11-24-08 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor (Post 8747937)
I have the TSportline rear bar. It bolts in using factory holes in the speaker tower. It looks damn close to that MS bar as far as I can tell from those pics. It should not interfere with your EDFC motors. I can take a pic of it in a week or so if you still need one by then. My car is on the other side of the state. :(

When you have a chance please post up a pic of it mounted.

ArtOfRuin 11-24-08 10:41 PM

TC Sportline rear strut tower bar:

http://www.driftingperformance.com/i...500%20copy.jpg

Link in case the pic dies:

http://www.driftingperformance.com/p...66df18cd0de45e

Agent_D 11-25-08 12:59 AM

So the MS and TC sportline don't get anywhere near the strut/shock shaft area, they actually mount upside down from the way they are displayed in their pictures and only the mounting hole area is on top of the strut tower while the rest of the body of the bar sits on the side of the strut tower.

I could never picture how it mounted till the pic above of it actually on the car, seems like a solid way to do it.

At least I think thats right.

Rob XX 7 11-25-08 12:25 PM

I was just wondering how you were going to address the cover?

Juiceh 11-25-08 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Rob XX 7 (Post 8749282)
I was just wondering how you were going to address the cover?

Some trimming if needed. :)

Turbo II Rotor 11-25-08 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Agent_D (Post 8748426)
So the MS and TC sportline don't get anywhere near the strut/shock shaft area, they actually mount upside down from the way they are displayed in their pictures and only the mounting hole area is on top of the strut tower while the rest of the body of the bar sits on the side of the strut tower.

Completely wrong. They sit the way they are pictured. You bolt in the mounting bracket to the strut top, then using 2 existing holes in the speaker tower, bolt the bracket on the bar to the bracket on the strut tower.

Gene 11-25-08 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Juiceh (Post 8747851)
Not sure yet. Was thinking about using the bar to wrap my harness around. However the other night I wrapped the harness around the roll bar and it seems like it might be ok that way. I created this thread because I was toying with that idea and then realized the EDFC compatibility issue and decided it would be a good idea to make this thread so that info could help others and possibly myself. :D

The roll bar is likely much stronger than the strut bar for harness belt mounting purposes.

ArtOfRuin 11-25-08 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Juiceh (Post 8747851)
Not sure yet. Was thinking about using the bar to wrap my harness around. However the other night I wrapped the harness around the roll bar and it seems like it might be ok that way. I created this thread because I was toying with that idea and then realized the EDFC compatibility issue and decided it would be a good idea to make this thread so that info could help others and possibly myself. :D

You'll want to use your roll bar as a harness attach point. Using the strut tower bar for this purpose is unsafe. Also, if you plan on racing it, any sanctioning body worth its salt will not let you pass tech inspection if you attach the harnesses to the strut tower bar.

Juiceh 11-25-08 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Gene (Post 8749882)
The roll bar is likely much stronger than the strut bar for harness belt mounting purposes.


Originally Posted by ArtOfRuin (Post 8749980)
You'll want to use your roll bar as a harness attach point. Using the strut tower bar for this purpose is unsafe. Also, if you plan on racing it, any sanctioning body worth its salt will not let you pass tech inspection if you attach the harnesses to the strut tower bar.


Yeah, thats kinda what I figured. The roll bar is kinda close to the seat back though. So far I've wrapped my passenger side around the bar. It looks like it will work. I'm not sure if it is ideal though. I'll post some pics of that in a couple days.

ArtOfRuin 11-25-08 10:41 PM

When you have the pics up, try posting them in the Motorsports forum, too. Since they must have properly installed harnesses for certain types of racing, they can give you good feedback on how you have yours mounted and what to do if the harnesses are installed improperly. Even if you're just keeping your car on the street, it's important that the harnesses be properly installed, especially if they are replacing the stock seat belts.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm nagging, but I'm an autocrosser and a big stickler for saftey. I knew a couple of kids in high school who improperly installed harnesses or put style bars on their 'verts so they could look cool, and ended up in traction.

Juiceh 11-26-08 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by ArtOfRuin
When you have the pics up, try posting them in the Motorsports forum, too. Since they must have properly installed harnesses for certain types of racing, they can give you good feedback on how you have yours mounted and what to do if the harnesses are installed improperly. Even if you're just keeping your car on the street, it's important that the harnesses be properly installed, especially if they are replacing the stock seat belts.

Yeah once I get around to wrapping the driver side harness i was planing on creating a thread in the race car tech section to get feedback on it. The car will see street time so safety is a major concern to me.


Originally Posted by ArtOfRuin
Sorry if it sounds like I'm nagging, but I'm an autocrosser and a big stickler for saftey. I knew a couple of kids in high school who improperly installed harnesses or put style bars on their 'verts so they could look cool, and ended up in traction.

Doesn't sound like nagging at all. Sounds more like good advice and i appreciate that. I've seen so many pictures of harness installations that look sketchy. I want my setup to be as safe as possible.


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