Post your Retro-fit HID setup
I recently bought a pair of DOT legal H4 headlights with 4300K bulbs on Ebay after checking Icemark's HID thread and Im excited for my package to get here. Now looking forward to upgrade my foglight's lighting perfomance with HIDs, how about if you post your Retro-fit HID setup and let us be the judge :)
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i have a pair of raybrig clear h4 lenses with a 6k hid kit. I love it, i mostly keep them down so they come through the ftps. If anyone is interested in hid kits for cheap pm me.
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i have a set of projector headlights with some shitty BMW hid kit wich i have to replace soon
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This thread fails without pictures.
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*Facepalm*
That was the whole point of this thread you guys lol Post them pics up! Has anybody upgrade their foglights with HID bulbs? what kind of bulb do you need for the OEM foglight? |
regual HID H4 should work
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Are those JSPEC FTPs or the light from your headlights?
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looks like headlights cause his hood seam is glowing too.
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+1
. Btw what kelvin rating are your HID bulbs Blimp? it looks pretty sweet, I bet they are 6000k... post some more |
stock ftps, just shooting the hids straight through them.
they are 6k |
Originally Posted by stevensimon
(Post 8857418)
looks like headlights cause his hood seam is glowing too.
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This are the DOT legal headlights that I bought on Ebay for $80, not them flashy projector headlights with those damn blue bulbs you usually see on Ebay... I hate that blue bulb, makes your headlight look cheap IMO... :icon_no2:
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imag...BLUEVERT16.JPG Cant wait for these babies to get on my hands :drool: http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imag...t/10030839.JPG Ill post my pics as soon as I get them installed on my 7 |
Originally Posted by K!NCH
(Post 8857619)
Good luck. :icon_tup:
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35w 8000K
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shit man no caps on those? lol
when i threw hid h4 in my old benz i bought a kit that had caps on em *tho i took the hat off since it was sitting behind fluttered lense http://www.esupersaving.com/images/h4-3bulbs.JPG Blimp how do you like that setup? i had the raybrigs in my old s13 but with silverstar bulbs, but loved the crap out of em, the best dam h4 housings out there even if they where RHD designed.. Worth every penny i wish i pulled them when i sold the car.... =( http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...se/lights2.jpg |
no caps, I was really surprised when I installed the HIDs in these housings, I had tried a few other housings and found that these actually provided the cleanest cut and littlest glare. They are bright as hell but I have em aimed down, I have passed my friends on the road and they say it's bright but not glaring in any way.
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oem koito housing's(glass lens and metal bucket with proper kut lense) and hella 5000k hid h4 conversion it
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ya dude the raybrigs are the shitttt. Just replacing them from the original housings was night and day. The stockers suck soooo bad. Ya with the hids they are crazy bright i can see EVERYTHING. I mostly keep them down and have the hids fogs light up the road for me.
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Are those "caps" needed? i see some h4 housing that have that cap where the bulbs sit in, then i see some that dont have it. i always read that using an HID bulb you shouldnt have that "cap" in the housing not meant for HID's.
So if you dont have that cap, should the HID bulb have a "cover"?? as hypertek posted. Hope that makes sense. I'm asking b/c i got a set of H4 housing that dont have the cap. i didnt want to blind ppl , so i was just going to get silverstars, but if I can run HID's in them without glaring, im all for it. |
Fuck the other people. Adjust your headlights so that it doesn't shine into people 's backglass and ride out. Be prepared for oncoming traffic to flash you constantly, but that just comes with HIDs, factory or aftermarket.
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I think you need it, because the headlight cap's purpose is to reflect the light projection created by the HID bulbs to the wall reflector and that creates a light pattern which increase wider, further and better viewing at night. From what I read in many write-ups and articles, the headlight AND harness is as important as the HID you are upgrading. Its useless to buy a brand HID kit (or bulbs) to go with a cheap, poor light projecting, bad aiming headlight. Its also useless to buy a DOT legal crystal clear headlight with just ANY 6000K 8000K or 12000K HID kit. The higher the Kelvin rating (temperature) the less you are gonna be able to lighten the driving environment at night due to the amount of blue or purple color added to the light discharge. Its going to be difficult to drive at night with 12000K (Purple) compared to 4300K (White) or 6000K (Crystal White). Harness plays a big role here and this is what most of the people totally forget, you should also upgrade your 23 yrs old harness to a heavy duty harness that will take on the highly intense discharge produced by the bulbs. You see its all about Performance vs Looks, if you want performance Ill recommend you guys to go with 4300K (Pure White) you will have a the best viewing out of all bulbs. But if you want the looks and be the attention grabber, I would recommend you not to go past 6500K because its still white but with a little bit of blue added to it. There is a slight bit of difference between them two, due to the blue color added to the light discharge, you'll be seeing a bit less than the bulb projecting all white. I hope I made sense here.... lol
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So far I have yet to see a "retrofit."
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I bet TTT is just itching to post in this thread. :lol:
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Hey Juiceh hows the build going? I bet you also upgraded your headlights with HIDs... post some pics of your setup.
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I do have HIDs but haven't gotten around to installing them yet.
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Originally Posted by EJayCe996
(Post 8864646)
So far I have yet to see a "retrofit."
I just bought the conversion kit and tried a couple sets of housings until I found one that gave a decent pattern. I am aware it's not ideal but I don't even drive the car at night. I generally don't support hack job HID installs like mine as they can be dangerous or at least less than optimal, but this particular setup works fine, looks good and doesn't blind other drivers. so what are you looking for? do you want to see HID systems from other cars fitted into the FC? like acura projectors or mercedes or something? |
That would be a "retrofit" and what I was expecting to find in this thread :tonque:. I need to stop being lazy and buy a cheap set of housings to hack up and take measurements with my infiniti FX projectors.
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Mine are D2S; D2R have added masking that is visible in the bulb itself, this was meant to reduce glare in the older housings when HIDs were being introduced.
D2Shttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...PhilipsD2S.jpg D2Rhttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...PhilipsD2R.gif I am gonna stick to what I have for right now but am open to either need-a-t2's style or another quality conversion to real projectors. TTT, are you still using the H9 lows and HID highs with the need-a-t2 styled conversion? |
This thread is full of fail. My Friend retrofitted Mazda 3 HID setups into his pop ups and this is the result. Not amazing cut off, but this is only the beginning of the experiment.
At least it has cut off... https://i114.photobucket.com/albums/...c/DSCF4860.jpg https://i114.photobucket.com/albums/...c/DSCF4871.jpg https://i114.photobucket.com/albums/...c/DSCF4877.jpg https://i114.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSCF5074r.jpg |
That does look like a nice pattern, hopefully he can make it look a lot cleaner in the headlight itself - that other lamp in there looks terrible.
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id take offense to those saying this thread is fail or bitching about everyones setup.. Ill have to remember to call people out the next time a engine modification thread pops up since it is illegal in some states and bad for the environment when people rock test pipes etc.
At least everyone here has the right mind to aim the lights lower for glare.. Improved visibility > POS stock headlights. Glare shouldnt be a bad problem if you do it with caps on the hid bulbs and good housings. Babies are not going to die, hell isnt gonna break loose and freeze over.. TTT your a knowledgeable guy here but no need to call people out on their decisions. Not a retro fit. More than likely a cheap piece of shit blind everyone and piss me off kit. No where near cheap, even Cibie and Hella headlights are cheaper. If you seen the light output of these in person with H4 halogen bulbs in there, perhaps the best headlights out there for 6054. Every other "clear" type is a copy or knock off of those. 6054 headlights are pretty much dead in automotive development... no more new production car uses them from what i recall. So everything from now on will be some modification job or put together. No company will spend $$$$$ to make dot approved 6054 hid lights. |
Originally Posted by NJGreenBudd
(Post 8867584)
Mine are D2S; D2R have added masking that is visible in the bulb itself, this was meant to reduce glare in the older housings when HIDs were being introduced.
D2Shttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...PhilipsD2S.jpg D2Rhttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...PhilipsD2R.gif I am gonna stick to what I have for right now but am open to either need-a-t2's style or another quality conversion to real projectors. TTT, are you still using the H9 lows and HID highs with the need-a-t2 styled conversion? Yes, I am using Need-a-tii's kit with H9 lows and HID highs. The ballasts are all there when I finally do finish everything else off I'll be ordering the real Hella 90mm HID moduales for an actual DOT legal conversion. The Highs aren't legal, but they'll only be on when no one else is around so I'm not to concerned with blinding people. |
Originally Posted by E_Dub
(Post 8867602)
This thread is full of fail. My Friend retrofitted Mazda 3 HID setups into his pop ups and this is the result. Not amazing cut off, but this is only the beginning of the experiment.
At least it has cut off... |
Originally Posted by Hypertek
(Post 8867702)
At least everyone here has the right mind to aim the lights lower for glare..
[quote=Hypertek;8867702]Improved visibility > POS stock headlights. Glare shouldnt be a bad problem if you do it with caps on the hid bulbs and good housings. Babies are not going to die, hell isnt gonna break loose and freeze over.. Improved visibilty from a real conversion or H4 replacements without blinding ANYONE > stock sealed beams > POS rebases that let you see only strait infront of you a little better and blind all oncoming traffic.
Originally Posted by Hypertek
(Post 8867702)
TTT your a knowledgeable guy here but no need to call people out on their decisions.
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TitanumTT, the reason for this thread is to see people experimenting their ideas retro fitting HIDs in H4 and learn what setup works best for everybody. You seem to know alot about this, please post your setup and tell us about it.
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Originally Posted by Jeffc3s
(Post 8868427)
TitanumTT, the reason for this thread is to see people experimenting their ideas retro fitting HIDs in H4 and learn what setup works best for everybody. You seem to know alot about this, please post your setup and tell us about it.
skoool us Mr. Retrofit goddess |
he pretty much just told you what he was running and you can see pics of his car all of this forum.
Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
(Post 8868056)
OMFG!!!!!!!! REAL HID BULBS!!!!!!!!!! THUS FAR YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WITH REAL HIDS IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I am using Need-a-tii's kit with H9 lows and HID highs. The ballasts are all there when I finally do finish everything else off I'll be ordering the real Hella 90mm HID moduales for an actual DOT legal conversion. The Highs aren't legal, but they'll only be on when no one else is around so I'm not to concerned with blinding people. https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...26&postcount=2 Looks like a good dual bulb setup to me. |
Originally Posted by Jeffc3s
(Post 8868427)
TitanumTT, the reason for this thread is to see people experimenting their ideas retro fitting HIDs in H4 and learn what setup works best for everybody. You seem to know alot about this, please post your setup and tell us about it.
I'm not going to post my setup becuase it's not a retrofit and I don't plan on running H9 rebased HID bulbs in my H9 housings. I plan on running Halogen H9 Bulbs |
Originally Posted by NJGreenBudd
(Post 8868477)
he pretty much just told you what he was running and you can see pics of his car all of this forum.
you can see some of his setup in this thread about the dual oil coolers: https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...26&postcount=2 Looks like a good dual bulb setup to me. |
^ Which he needs to make more of BTW.
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I knew the harsh reality of TTT's words would ensue hilarity for me.
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I agree with what TitaniumTT is saying, I am one of those assholes that have way too bright of "fake" HID's? headlights. But for where I live, country and backroads, I couldnt see shit with factory sealed beams, fake blue bulbs, and dont have the money or resourses to retrofit so I did the Balast style HID:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...5082127-02.jpg Basically Im not trying to hit a Deer on a back country, no streetlight road. |
:facepalm2: - the HIDs are most likely NOT an improvement over the stock sealed beams.
Try something cheap and post your results. Buy some Hella, Cibei, Bosch or some other H4 housing. Put some real bulbs into them such as these - http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1404 CP64206 and then report back as to which gives you better visibility. I posed the question to Rallylights - I need an H4 bulb that will let me see EVERYTHING on back country, non-lit roads in the northeast where deer, moose, bear etc are around. I want to see everything without blinding the oncoming traffic. That's what they recommended. I mentioned that 85/80 might not be bright enough. They said something along the lines of, we've never gotten a complaint from anyone and they'll be brighter throughout the beam than any other bulb you could put in there, especially some cheap HID rebase mainly becuase the cheap HID rebases tend to focus the light directly infront of you and ot off to the sides where you need it to aviod hitting the deer, moose, bear etc etc etc. I can't comment on them becuase I haven't gotten them in the Jeep yet. They require some re-wiring and I want to do it all at the same time, I'm adding lights F&R on the roof |
Well post some pictures of when you get them installed on your Jeep, and also a price of what it all cost you.
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It'll be MONTHS before that gets done. Can't take the Jeep off the road for weeks at a time in the winter to strip everything out to do some wiring with it snowing 2x/week
Cost is really nothing, Bulbs are $40 and housings are $40-50 each so a grand total of ~$120-$140 for what is presumably better lighting, LEGAL lighting, and at about 1/2 the cost of some e-bizzle HIDs. I don't understand why people just don't get it. |
Well thats not too bad. My Ebay HID's were only $80 or so and the housings were something like $10 so its not too expensive, as for legality, Ive been pulled over before and had nothing said about my headlights, or come to think about it the fact that my car smelled like a gas station
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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
(Post 8868056)
OMFG!!!!!!!! REAL HID BULBS!!!!!!!!!! THUS FAR YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WITH REAL HIDS IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I am using Need-a-tii's kit with H9 lows and HID highs. The ballasts are all there when I finally do finish everything else off I'll be ordering the real Hella 90mm HID moduales for an actual DOT legal conversion. The Highs aren't legal, but they'll only be on when no one else is around so I'm not to concerned with blinding people. http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4283 |
Originally Posted by Zerkster
(Post 8871508)
Well thats not too bad. My Ebay HID's were only $80 or so and the housings were something like $10 so its not too expensive, as for legality, Ive been pulled over before and had nothing said about my headlights, or come to think about it the fact that my car smelled like a gas station
Originally Posted by laserkei
(Post 8871698)
Are you talking about this one here?
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4283 http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1255. But when you look at the price to do a REAL HID conversions ($1200 from Rally) or a retrofit (whatever you can buy OEM<- That's the key to a retrofit, actual OEM HIDs, on ebay for,) I see why people get cheap. I don't agree with it and I personally think it's a retarded waste of money. |
For realz, I'm gonna buy some replacement lenses for my FX35 projectors from a company that remanufactures the lenses but makes them completely clear instead. For those of you that don't know, depending on your luck of the draw you will get two, possibly three but still undetermined, different types of FX projectors: those with frosted lenses (reduced light output and cutoff clarity), and those with "clear" lenses but in actuality are still semi-frosted and have a "stepped" lens surface for lack of a better description. Just getting a pair of these lenses will just about cost me what I paid for the FX projector units. So the total for just the projectors and lenses alone is already ~300 and I got the projectors through a friend's friend at a deal. Ballasts/bulbs/wiring harness are probably gonna put the total costs modestly around $500. Paying someone to do this for you.... over 1000 easy.
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