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MVAMotorsport 11-20-02 08:00 PM

3 Rotor Conversion KIt!!!
 
Ok, listen up guys ,, for this month and the next one only. I have decided to put a special on 3 rotor convertion. The 3 rotor convertion will cost $35,000. This will include the following.

1. 3 Rotor engine
2. Port Polished Engine
3. 3mm Rotors and apex seal
4. Dual Ball Bearing Turbo (single)
5. Front Mount Intercooler
6. Injectors
7. 2 Bosh fuel pump
8. Stainless Steal Turbo Manifold
9. Billet Intake Manifold
10. Billet Oil Pan
11. Microtech ECU
12. Bosh Coils
13. Billet Fuel Rails
14. Fuel Regulator
15. HKS Wastegate
16. BLow Off Valve
17. Intercooler Piping Alum ,(polished)
18. Down Pipe
20. Cat Back Muffer System
21. Everything Install & dyno tune
22. Clutch / Flywheel
23. Boost / Air fuel Gauge
24. Dual Stage Boost Control

Everything Is Install !!!



***If when we take the car to the dyno the car those not make 600HP to the wheel @ low boost on Pump Gas. YOU DONT PAID*****

****The Motor also make 850Hp @ high Boost , with RACE GAs

RonKMiller 11-20-02 08:16 PM

Re: 3 Rotor Conversion KIt!!!
 

Originally posted by MVAMotorsport
Ok, listen up guys ,, for this month and the next one only. I have decided to put a special on 3 rotor convertion. The 3 rotor convertion will cost $35,000. This will include the following.

1. 3 Rotor engine
2. Port Polished Engine
3. 3mm Rotors and apex seal
4. Dual Ball Bearing Turbo (single)
5. Front Mount Intercooler
6. Injectors
7. 2 Bosh fuel pump
8. Stainless Steal Turbo Manifold
9. Billet Intake Manifold
10. Billet Oil Pan
11. Microtech ECU
12. Bosh Coils
13. Billet Fuel Rails
14. Fuel Regulator
15. HKS Wastegate
16. BLow Off Valve
17. Intercooler Piping Alum ,(polished)
18. Down Pipe
20. Cat Back Muffer System
21. Everything Install & dyno tune
22. Clutch / Flywheel
23. Boost / Air fuel Gauge
24. Dual Stage Boost Control

Everything Is Install !!!



***If when we take the car to the dyno the car those not make 600HP to the wheel @ low boost on Pump Gas. YOU DONT PAID*****

****The Motor also make 850Hp @ high Boost , with RACE GAs

Ok, you want me to spend $35 large with you but you can't spell "conversion"? Allrighty then.........

c00lduke 11-20-02 08:26 PM

over all the post does have some errors but sounds pretty sweet.

the_glass_man 11-20-02 08:29 PM

Do you offer Financing??? :D
Anyone want to buy a kidney??? :)
Is this with a subframe, or do you hack the firewall???
What about bumpsteer?

MVAMotorsport 11-20-02 08:41 PM

lol, No hacking firewall, The will drive 100% like a factory car.

MVAMotorsport 11-20-02 08:42 PM

Oh yea,,,For those serious guys, With good Credit, Yes there is financing.

RonKMiller 11-20-02 09:01 PM


Originally posted by c00lduke
over all the post does have some errors but sounds pretty sweet.
for $35K, let's just hope the engine does not as well.

Damn, I can buy a REALLY nice house with $35K down.

MVA, how many 3 rotors have you built so far? I'm curious because I have rebuilt engines (aircraft and motorcyle) for a living in the past.

the_glass_man 11-20-02 09:45 PM


Originally posted by RonKMiller


for $35K, let's just hope the engine does not as well.

Damn, I can buy a REALLY nice house with $35K down.

MVA, how many 3 rotors have you built so far? I'm curious because I have rebuilt engines (aircraft and motorcyle) for a living in the past.

Something tells me they have built a 3 Rotor or 60. You do know about MVA don't you Ron?

MVAMotorsport 11-20-02 09:58 PM

Well, we have been building ,, and racing rotaries engine for over 25 years,, from 2 rotor,3 rotor, 4 rotor and even a home made 6 rotors, we have done it all. from road racing, drag racing, boat racing, and even snow ski and jet ski racing,

lost_rotary 11-20-02 11:13 PM

35 k for 3 rotors? damn i always thought it was cheaper then that....i guess i can take that off my mind....i would rather use that money to buy two more rx7s....just my opinion

SPEED_NYC 11-21-02 01:10 AM

Do some research on these guys before making sarcastic comments about spelling ect....

I dont think theres anyone on the east coast with more 3 and 4 rotor experience than MVA. (except mabye Jim Dowling, but I dont think he's offering sale prices on 3 rotor conversions :) )

this is a great price, considering pettit charges the same (or more) to do this conversion with the stock twins, stock ports and less goodies. plus the pettit conversions are only rated at 550hp


Originally posted by RonKMiller


for $35K, let's just hope the engine does not as well.

Damn, I can buy a REALLY nice house with $35K down.

MVA, how many 3 rotors have you built so far? I'm curious because I have rebuilt engines (aircraft and motorcyle) for a living in the past.


Turbo 3 11-21-02 11:44 AM

where were you 2 years ago?... too late for my business my friend...

However... If I can ask a question...why do you have a billet intake? What's wrong with the stock intake? Are the flow characteristics any different?

Second, did you make your own custom oil pan? Are you a distributer? Does the "new" oil pan alleviate the issues with moving the stock front sway bar? How much and pictures please...? :)

MVAMotorsport 11-21-02 12:00 PM

hehe, Well The Billet Oil pan is for many reason, but it helps the oil flow in the motor and protects the motor bearing more, and Billet Intake Manifold, Well, i like building real fast engines, With our Billet manifold, we have found to make the same amount of power than the stock @ a lower boost level, Which is what we want, cause the motor last much, much, much, longer ,,,The other trick for the oil pan ,,is A Secreat,,,,And yes we make them in our CNC machine, out of 6061 ALum.

Turbo 3 11-21-02 01:14 PM

Ok ok...I'll bite. But you didn't answer my question about the oil pan rectifying the front sway bar issue. And...how much is it, or is that a PM only thing you want to keep secret?

On your manifold...do you have to use a different TB and subsequent TPS? or did you mate them up the same?

zyounker 11-21-02 01:28 PM


Originally posted by MVAMotorsport
hehe, Well The Billet Oil pan is for many reason, but it helps the oil flow in the motor and protects the motor bearing more, and Billet Intake Manifold, Well, i like building real fast engines, With our Billet manifold, we have found to make the same amount of power than the stock @ a lower boost level, Which is what we want, cause the motor last much, much, much, longer ,,,The other trick for the oil pan ,,is A Secreat,,,,And yes we make them in our CNC machine, out of 6061 ALum.

Ok, few Q's... Is this price for an FD or FC??


And if it is for the FC, is the custom oil pan because of the front sway bar? and if so, do you sell these?


Kurgan and i have been looking at a custom front swaybar, but a custom oil pan that he can buy would be much easier :)

Right now his car is driving without a swaybar...


-Zach

fdracer 11-21-02 02:23 PM

wow this is actually a pretty damn good price.

MVAMotorsport 11-21-02 02:53 PM

ok, THE BILLET MANIFOLD COMES WITH A TB AND A NEW TPS TO PLUG IN, AND GUYS YES THE OIL PAN ELIMATES THE PROBLEM WITH THE SWAYBAR,,,,,,,,,,I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT,,IF I WANT PEOPLE TO BUY IT OUT OF THE KIT

MVAMotorsport 11-21-02 02:54 PM

FD right now
but soon FC also

zyounker 11-21-02 02:57 PM


Originally posted by MVAMotorsport
ok, THE BILLET MANIFOLD COMES WITH A TB AND A NEW TPS TO PLUG IN, AND GUYS YES THE OIL PAN ELIMATES THE PROBLEM WITH THE SWAYBAR,,,,,,,,,,I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT,,IF I WANT PEOPLE TO BUY IT OUT OF THE KIT

Well, i can think of a few people who are probably in need of one..


I will let kurgan know to contact you.. Either you can supply it, or we will be making our own and selling it.. Your choice..


We don't care about the money, just the product avaliablity for the community, and if you have gone throught the trouble of making one, it makes no sense in us wasting our time and money.

-Zach


EDIT: These would be for the FC...

MVAMotorsport 11-21-02 03:08 PM

Ok, listen guys, The billect oil pan , and manifold is really use to keep all the factory bump stear and sway bar,,everything rack and pinion everything,, we have designed a oil pan and manifold (and another part) for the 3 rotor to go in with you killing you car,,,,NO BUMP STEAR PROBLEMS, the oil pan also give you more power.

MVAMotorsport 11-21-02 03:10 PM

You can switch back from 3 two 2 rotor with out changing anything at all in the car. We are now making it for the FC as well,, SOON

IronMdnX 11-21-02 04:08 PM

How much for the oil pan and maniforld?

MVAMotorsport 11-21-02 04:15 PM

Let me add the number for the parts out of the kit,,and i'll post it up tomorrow,,,,

HyperRex 11-22-02 03:48 PM

im in for an oil pan.

t-von 11-24-02 06:54 PM


Originally posted by MVAMotorsport
Ok, listen guys, The billect oil pan , and manifold is really use to keep all the factory bump stear and sway bar,,everything rack and pinion everything,, we have designed a oil pan and manifold (and another part) for the 3 rotor to go in with you killing you car,,,,NO BUMP STEAR PROBLEMS, the oil pan also give you more power.


Hey MVA, I'm trying to understand this the best I can. So are telling me that the stock 20b oil pan and manifold is the reason the steering rack is moved (like on Pettit's conversions)? I have always wanted a 3rotor conversion but the bump steer you get has always scared me! Also I have considerd the Peter Farrell conversion but, I hate the location of the stick shift lever.

t-von 11-24-02 07:32 PM


Originally posted by MVAMotorsport
Ok, listen guys, The billect oil pan , and manifold is really use to keep all the factory bump stear and sway bar,,everything rack and pinion everything,, we have designed a oil pan and manifold (and another part) for the 3 rotor to go in with you killing you car,,,,NO BUMP STEAR PROBLEMS, the oil pan also give you more power.


Hey MVA, I'm trying to understand this the best I can. So are telling me that the stock 20b oil pan and manifold is the reason the steering rack is moved (like on Pettit's conversions)? I have always wanted a 3rotor conversion but the bump steer you get has always scared me! Also I have considerd the Peter Farrell conversion but, I hate the location of the stick shift lever.

94RHDFD 11-24-02 09:36 PM

I've got a couple questions MVA, I currently using the Pettit subframe, can you oil pan still be used to eliminate the bumpsteer with their subframe, also if you have any pictures of the intake manifold and oil pan, I am VERY INTEREST'D in seeing and possibly buying them

MVAMotorsport 11-25-02 04:54 PM

Yes, you can't install the 3 rotor with it's oil pan in the FD sub-frame. So you have to change it to fit the 3 rotor oild pan. And by doing that you will have to change the steering rack and the spindle and everything else.. We did Alot of R&D after doing conversion over and over again. And we have designed a Billect oil pan, for the 3 rotor that fits perfect in the FD subframe. And by doing that the 3 rotor bolt on exactly were the 2 rotor goes,. so you will not have to change the steering rack nor the spindle. Keeping the factory Suspension in stock, Give you no BUMP STEER. However is not just the oil pan, There also a Billet motor mount for the 20b. And couple of other tricks.

94RHDFD 11-25-02 05:47 PM

Okay now you really got me interest'd, no chance you only selling the parts to fit on the 13b subframe

Red-Rx7 11-26-02 07:44 PM

Well, by January time frame you will see some definate results.

I have had some lengthy conversations with Marcos and team, and they are a reputable shop.

My project with MVA will be starting in a week or so, and I will have constant updates to keep everyone informed. We will be doing a custom 20B setup in my 3rd gen.

Be looking in the future of Turbo, or other nifty magazines with my beast! :)

Mike

Evil Aviator 11-26-02 09:21 PM


Originally posted by zyounker
Well, i can think of a few people who are probably in need of one..

EDIT: These would be for the FC...

I could sure use one of those oil pans on my FC 20B, and so could just about everyone else who already has a 20B. So far it looks like a custom sway bar is going to cost me over $550, and I have a perfectly good Mazda Motorsports sway bar that's on my friend's car because I can't use it. :(

BTW, I realize that a dry sump is the best way to go for road racing, but is the "secret" component going to work well on a road race car with lateral loads, or is it more for drag racing with longitudional loads?

now 11-26-02 10:15 PM

I agree with Evil, I would be interested in the oil pan,
if it's priced appropriately, count me in for that part!

matt

MVAMotorsport 11-27-02 10:12 AM

Well. It all depends what type of road racing you are doing. I built motors for road racing cars, All my Road racing engine have Dry sump. Oil Pan are better for drag racing and street cars.

94RHDFD 11-27-02 10:14 AM

MVA did you get the PM I sent you

MVAMotorsport 11-27-02 10:15 AM

I'm Still trying to finish the Billet Oil pan for the fc. I have them ready for the FD but not for the FC. Probally in another month or so.

94RHDFD 11-27-02 10:15 AM

Can I get a number to your shop so we can talk about the 3rotor conversion

Red-Rx7 11-27-02 10:22 AM


Originally posted by 20B 3rd Gen
Can I get a number to your shop so we can talk about the 3rotor conversion
I sent you a PM of their Shop.

Speak to Marcos or Andrew.

Mike

94RHDFD 11-27-02 10:29 AM

Thankx

MVAMotorsport 11-27-02 12:57 PM

My number is 201-488-5111

MVAMotorsport 11-27-02 12:58 PM

Just ask for Me, Marcos Acosta, Andrew is just goin to pass you to me anyway. ok

t-von 11-27-02 10:27 PM

Good things happen to those who wait.;) MVA, you most definately will be getting my future business.

t-von 11-27-02 10:32 PM

Oh and one more thing, Do us all a favor and come up with a design for the RX8:D I would love reek some havock on some unsuspecting viper:D

Domestic513 12-01-02 11:13 AM

Hey what turbo you going to use, what FMIC, Down pipe, what kind of port will the motor have, what size injectors??

MVAMotorsport 12-01-02 05:26 PM

Anyone who wants full detail on what the conversion brings, Call @201-488-5111 and ask for marcos, Jr. On the Rx-8 Well starting Feb we will start making a turbo kit for the factory engine and a 3 rotor conversion also.

MVAMotorsport 12-01-02 05:27 PM

ALSO, Guys anyone who PM's me, If i dont reply back, I'm sorry i have tons of PM's to respond too. You can reach me at 201-488-5111 thank you

mad20b 12-01-02 10:00 PM


Originally posted by MVAMotorsport
Anyone who wants full detail on what the conversion brings, Call @201-488-5111 and ask for marcos, Jr. On the Rx-8 Well starting Feb we will start making a turbo kit for the factory engine and a 3 rotor conversion also.
You legends!!! Will the 3 rotor be a renasis engine??

Do you have a web site where I can check out your other goodies - you seem like real innovators!

Cheers

Jeff20B 12-02-02 01:09 PM

I think it'll be a 20B, unless he's figured out a weigh to add another rotor to the Renesis (I'd like to see that!).

MVAMotorsport 12-02-02 01:20 PM

Guys, there's really nothing new on the renesis engine, Except the ports that the motor comes with. Those ports are something we have been doing for road racing cars, for years,. I mean there is couple of changes here and there, but not something of another world

jamesdeanrx7 12-02-02 09:22 PM

dear mva so would you guys sell the peices to fo the kit ourselves like the oil pan etc. etc. you would get alot of business im sure

Barwick 12-06-02 10:25 AM

sounds good, I might be interested towards the end of next year when I can buy it cash. However, I'd like to make SURE that there's not going to be any bump steer or mixed up handling issues due to relocating steering systems or engine cradles or suspension or whatever. By the way it's going in my FC.

One other question, do you offer a dry-sump oil system?


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