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Tech_Greek 05-08-05 06:54 PM

Racing Tips?
 
Alright,

I've got a few questions, assuming the car is stock GSL-SE;

1) What RPM should I launch at? I've seen a focus squeal the tires out of the hole and win vs. someone chirping the tires on launch.

2) What's the optimum shift point for each gear? I've heard that you may feel its out of 'umph' and your brain tells you to shift but in reality that its still pulling and its best to wait for a few more hundred RPMs.

3) Shift Hard & Fast or Slow & Soft?

All tips are accepted, I think I’m too new to the whole shifting thing and really not bringing my cars potential out until I learn to race a little better; I’ve been driving an auto since I started racing.

- Tech

Rusty Shackleford 05-08-05 07:16 PM

with my car mostly stock i feel i lauch pretty good at 5000

mwatson184 05-08-05 07:25 PM

Spinning the tires on the launch can sometimes be better than hooking them. If you hook them at a low RPM you will be out of the powerband and somebody spinning them a bit will pull right away from you. Spinning the tires is completely different than blowing them off though (mustang guys billowing smoke through the 1/8th mile).

1) For my first gen i have the best luck at 5000 feathering the clutch on the launch. On my old TII I did 4000 RPM clutch drops on the two-step at 5psi for the best results. Every car is different so experience will be your best bet here. First time out...start launching around 4k and do what you can from there.

2) If your car is stock than shift in the upper 6000's, again each car is different.

3) This depends on if you are willing to replace things if you break them. Shifting as quickly as possible withough losing traction will yield both the best times and the most broken parts.

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 07:45 PM

Hmm,

Well I thought maybe since you'll be higher in the power band (rotary engines liking) that it might start off faster.

It's partially stock, most are suspension mods but I do have the small things done like coils, etc.

Well, at first I could bark the 1-2 shift but now the throw out bearing is going bad I think and the clutch seems like it sticks (master cylinder me thinks).

- Tech

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Hmm,

Well I thought maybe since you'll be higher in the power band (rotary engines liking) that it might start off faster.

It's partially stock, most are suspension mods but I do have the small things done like coils, etc.

Well, at first I could bark the 1-2 shift but now the throw out bearing is going bad I think and the clutch seems like it sticks (master cylinder me thinks).

- Tech

can you tell me a little about Shreveport? I might be moving there.

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 07:59 PM

w00t another first gen!

Well, it's pretty boring, the jobs suck, nothing to look forward to except the sparse cops...it's a SMART speed demons dream.

I commonly hit 100 MPH+ when I feel like it...street racing happens a lot around here because the nearest drag strip is almost two hours away for two passes for the night (boring waiting 30 minutes in-between each run).

- Tech

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
w00t another first gen!

Well, it's pretty boring, the jobs suck, nothing to look forward to except the sparse cops...it's a SMART speed demons dream.

I commonly hit 100 MPH+ when I feel like it...street racing happens a lot around here because the nearest drag strip is almost two hours away for two passes for the night (boring waiting 30 minutes in-between each run).

- Tech

if you dont mind me ask what do you do for a living? which Rx7 do you have and whats done to it

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 08:06 PM

Supervisor at a local car wash (freaking $6/hr :()

85 GSL-SE, only RACING first gen in shreveport that I've seen, only three or four that run in Shreveport that are hardly ever seen.

- Tech

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Supervisor at a local car wash (freaking $6/hr :()

85 GSL-SE, only RACING first gen in shreveport that I've seen, only three or four that run in Shreveport that are hardly ever seen.

- Tech

i know you're joking right

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 08:12 PM

I wish :|

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
I wish :|

I'll just tell myself you're joking. If I move i'll let you know so you can show me around. I have a stock GS now, stock until im ready to get dirty.

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 08:21 PM

Air Port, as in Air Force or as in the actual air port?

- Tech

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Alright,

I've got a few questions, assuming the car is stock GSL-SE;

1) What RPM should I launch at? I've seen a focus squeal the tires out of the hole and win vs. someone chirping the tires on launch.

2) What's the optimum shift point for each gear? I've heard that you may feel its out of 'umph' and your brain tells you to shift but in reality that its still pulling and its best to wait for a few more hundred RPMs.

3) Shift Hard & Fast or Slow & Soft?

All tips are accepted, I think I’m too new to the whole shifting thing and really not bringing my cars potential out until I learn to race a little better; I’ve been driving an auto since I started racing.

- Tech

with my 12A SP I use to launch between 6000rpm and 7000rpm and it felt good.

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 08:27 PM

I thought that was kind of high?

- Tech

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Air Port, as in Air Force or as in the actual air port?

- Tech

Airport in Shreveport. Do you want to work there?

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 08:35 PM

If it means more than $6/hr YES

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
If it means more than $6/hr YES

of course!!!!!!!!if you're serious

immanuel__7 05-08-05 08:39 PM

well im racing my stock 85 gs 12A im runing 10.2 sec in the 1/8mile with no air filter, i lauch at 6000 RPM and i shift at 6700 i all ways leave my self just alittle bit of extra power ( i run bracket racing if your wundering) my max speed was 220km/h but the 220km/h is done by craking open the exaust manifold just a little bit, (may air pump is not working so the cats are pluged) and when i was racing i would disconect the whole exaust minifold.

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 08:44 PM

Bumblebee,

Are you a manager of some sorts that could hire me?

immanuel,

Your car has more problems than mine lol. So theres no point in going up to red line?

- Tech

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Bumblebee,

Are you a manager of some sorts that could hire me?

immanuel,

Your car has more problems than mine lol. So theres no point in going up to red line?

- Tech

yeah, im always willing to help out a fellow ROTORHEAD. Currently I work at an airport in Albany NY, but I want to transfer somewhere a little bit warmer.

DAVID GRIMES 05-08-05 08:54 PM

Wait a minute now ! Before you commit to anything, had you rather stay in Shreveport and get a better job or would you rather leave the area and make more money ? Way better than 6.00 is easily had if you have some skills and aptitude. Just keeping a 7 running well enough to do 100 mph regularly put you towards the top of the gene pool more than likely. :bigthumb:

Unless, of course you're a coonass and can't speak English... j/k :rlaugh:

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 08:59 PM

No,

I wouldn’t rather stay in Shreveport but I cant afford to move to a new city and start job seeking and being a drop out and no GED (I cant take off work, they are idiots...trust me I've tried).

I do know anything and mostly everything about computers (I run a computer hardware & software service on the side) and I'm working my way up to my stance of computers working on cars, my step dad owns a shop down in Baton Rouge that he wants me to take over when I have a little bit more experience under my belt.

I don't care what the job entails (except for cleaning toilets, that I do NOT do) as long as the pay is good, all I care about is getting the bills paid and buying stuff for the RX7! :)

- Tech

immanuel__7 05-08-05 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Bumblebee,

Are you a manager of some sorts that could hire me?

immanuel,

Your car has more problems than mine lol. So theres no point in going up to red line?

- Tech

yes lol plus the car has 235000miles!
im planing on getting a 13BTII and getting a 5000$ greddy tubo once i spend 7 or 8k the car should be around 850hp

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by DAVID GRIMES
Wait a minute now ! Before you commit to anything, had you rather stay in Shreveport and get a better job or would you rather leave the area and make more money ? Way better than 6.00 is easily had if you have some skills and aptitude. Just keeping a 7 running well enough to do 100 mph regularly put you towards the top of the gene pool more than likely. :bigthumb:

Unless, of course you're a coonass and can't speak English... j/k :rlaugh:

how is it in Albany, GA?

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by DAVID GRIMES
Wait a minute now ! Before you commit to anything, had you rather stay in Shreveport and get a better job or would you rather leave the area and make more money ? Way better than 6.00 is easily had if you have some skills and aptitude. Just keeping a 7 running well enough to do 100 mph regularly put you towards the top of the gene pool more than likely. :bigthumb:

Unless, of course you're a coonass and can't speak English... j/k :rlaugh:

How is it in Albany, GA?

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 09:07 PM

What goes on in Albany, GA?

DAVID GRIMES 05-08-05 09:18 PM

Marine base, Cooper Tire, Proctor & Gamble, Miller Brewing, M&M Mars, Merck chemical, Bob's Candies, Georgia Pacific, and alot of construction, etc.

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by DAVID GRIMES
Marine base, Cooper Tire, Proctor & Gamble, Miller Brewing, M&M Mars, Merck chemical, Bob's Candies, Georgia Pacific, and alot of construction, etc.

where do you work?

RustyRotary 05-08-05 09:23 PM

I can't really tell you much about launches since I care too much about my clutch to abuse it (I don't have the cash to replace one right now) but I can tell you that shifting as fast as you can is not a good idea. The actual time taken off by shifting fast is suprisingly small, and ripping the shifter through the gears will trash your synchros. The next thing you know you'll have to start double-clutching to get into 2nd/3rd without grinding away your dog teeth.

As for what RPM to shift at, that's something you'll probably just have to figure out on your own if you want the fastest time. Take it to the strip and see what works the best.

DAVID GRIMES 05-08-05 09:27 PM

Cooper Tire and construction on the side.

When a town goes down, don't go down with it. You gotta go where the cheese is. Of course, you should study for and get your GED, too. You gotta be in the game to be able to play.

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 09:34 PM

whenever im drag racing i never take my foot off the gas I shift thru all five gears with pedal on the floor.

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 09:37 PM

the young rotorheads need to know about getting their act together.

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 09:56 PM

Well,

Let's break it down like this; I'm 17 and dropped out and working full time...reasons for dropping out;

1) I had bills to pay, my parent’s didn’t help me out one bit, school supplies, clothes, I paid for it all.
2) I fell behind so much from sleeping in class to be up for work because my boss bitched at me nonstop because I 'looked tire'. I was in 10th grade supposed to be a senior.
3) I tried to get back into school but I wasn’t able to, too old and not enough credits (I'll be 18 June 8th).

Now, the second dilemma,

1) Bills, I cant say 'fuck you' and take off a Monday for risk of loosing my job and they wont let me have a Monday off because they wont hire anyone else for my position which requires computer skills. The only time they do GED tests is on Mondays.

2) Night Courses, you have to take the test on the Monday Morning to take night classes...

My life is so much drama...that’s why sometimes I just get in my RX7 and mash the gas down to the floor and go on the back roads and don't let off...it just lets you go from all stresses and worries...it's a moment of true freedom!

- Tech

immanuel__7 05-08-05 10:14 PM

tru that i must say I have done the same in the past

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Well,

Let's break it down like this; I'm 17 and dropped out and working full time...reasons for dropping out;

1) I had bills to pay, my parent’s didn’t help me out one bit, school supplies, clothes, I paid for it all.
2) I fell behind so much from sleeping in class to be up for work because my boss bitched at me nonstop because I 'looked tire'. I was in 10th grade supposed to be a senior.
3) I tried to get back into school but I wasn’t able to, too old and not enough credits (I'll be 18 June 8th).

Now, the second dilemma,

1) Bills, I cant say 'fuck you' and take off a Monday for risk of loosing my job and they wont let me have a Monday off because they wont hire anyone else for my position which requires computer skills. The only time they do GED tests is on Mondays.

2) Night Courses, you have to take the test on the Monday Morning to take night classes...

My life is so much drama...that’s why sometimes I just get in my RX7 and mash the gas down to the floor and go on the back roads and don't let off...it just lets you go from all stresses and worries...it's a moment of true freedom!

- Tech

like I said I can help you in Shreveport even though in Albany,NY.

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 10:39 PM

What kind of job could you get me? I love working on computers!

- Tech

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
What kind of job could you get me? I love working on computers!

- Tech

at the airport in Shreveport. If you want I will PM you tomorrow with info.

Tech_Greek 05-08-05 10:45 PM

Sounds Great!

I won't get it until about 4:00 PM CT though!

Thanks a lot!

- Tech

BUMBLEBEE7 05-08-05 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Sounds Great!

I won't get it until about 4:00 PM CT though!

Thanks a lot!

- Tech

that will be 1800hrs my time I will still be at work. Thats cool

cdrad51 05-09-05 01:23 AM

what was this thread about again?

PaulFitzwarryne 05-09-05 01:57 AM

The initial subject is 'Racing tips, the first being to have the money.

To ensure he can use the first tip, the secondary subject is launching Tech Greek's career at 6,000rpm.

Good luck to him.

jimaymay 05-09-05 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
Alright,

I've got a few questions, assuming the car is stock GSL-SE;

1) What RPM should I launch at? I've seen a focus squeal the tires out of the hole and win vs. someone chirping the tires on launch.

2) What's the optimum shift point for each gear? I've heard that you may feel its out of 'umph' and your brain tells you to shift but in reality that its still pulling and its best to wait for a few more hundred RPMs.

3) Shift Hard & Fast or Slow & Soft?

All tips are accepted, I think I’m too new to the whole shifting thing and really not bringing my cars potential out until I learn to race a little better; I’ve been driving an auto since I started racing.

- Tech



With my first gen, 12A motor and mildly modded, i held the revs at 2000RPM then floored it when the yellow light kicked on while dumping the clutch and always had stellar reaction and 60 foot times, and running a 15.2@ 90 MPH with air filter, MSD coils, custom exhaust, race pipe(cats suck), and under drive pulley and a Bonez clutch.

after that i went with Weber side draft carbs, with Jamex Sock filters, a Z28 fuel pump, tokico 5 ways in the rear on tokico springs, and in front same, but non adjustables struts. I also added a 125 shot kit to see what it could do, and pulled off a 13.2 @ 109 MPH on street tires, and off the juice ran a 14.1@99MPH, think i could have made it into the 13's with no joice but was my last run of the night.

Hope to be in another RX-7 soon, driving a mitsu product GSX now, only 2 upsides are turbo and AWD, will be trading for a 2nd gen soon. L.A. Motorcars in Richardson, TX is the best

viper1_20012004 05-09-05 03:18 AM

for anyone who cares I messed up in school to I'm am working my ass of to get more credits to get my diploma

but anyways save a few dollors come to Alaska get a job on a fishing boat ya leave for 4 months they pay for your food and everything after your done you have 10 or more G's in your pocket, I did it last year thats how I bought my Chevy, snowmachine, and dirtbike

PaulFitzwarryne 05-09-05 05:53 AM

Viper- I know how hard it is working on a fishing boat. At 16, with a wealthy family background, while at school in the UK really fell for a 20 year old Norwegian blonde. Left school and followed her to Norway, get a job as a deck boy on an inshore fishing boat and slept on board. Latter went on offshore fishing boats going up towards Iceland. Made sufficient money to pay my way to university and buy my first sportscar. Fifty years later still look back on the experience with awe. Ironically my old cheap student car is now a classic collector's item and worth far more than my present car.

BUMBLEBEE7 05-09-05 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by viper1_20012004
for anyone who cares I messed up in school to I'm am working my ass of to get more credits to get my diploma

but anyways save a few dollors come to Alaska get a job on a fishing boat ya leave for 4 months they pay for your food and everything after your done you have 10 or more G's in your pocket, I did it last year thats how I bought my Chevy, snowmachine, and dirtbike

you guys can't spend all your cash into cars dont forget about later when you start getting OLD. I spent over $8,000 in firstgen my first motor about $2300 12SP than I wanted more so I spent about $3000 in my second engine BP 12A. There was nothing wrong with the street port I just wanted more power. I was hit and the car was totalled. So now im taking a break until the next project which I know I'll be spending a lot of $$$. The next built I will traveling to Japan and New Zealand to get parts. I dont do half ass work if I can't get what I want I dont want to build it.

BUMBLEBEE7 05-09-05 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by viper1_20012004
for anyone who cares I messed up in school to I'm am working my ass of to get more credits to get my diploma

but anyways save a few dollors come to Alaska get a job on a fishing boat ya leave for 4 months they pay for your food and everything after your done you have 10 or more G's in your pocket, I did it last year thats how I bought my Chevy, snowmachine, and dirtbike

keep it up!!! at the END you want to have something to show for working so hard. Do you see how much $$$$ 3rdgen guys spend to maintain their BEAST. ITS ALL ABOUT THE BENJAMIN$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

pimpncuba 05-09-05 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by PaulFitzwarryne
Viper- I know how hard it is working on a fishing boat. At 16, with a wealthy family background, while at school in the UK really fell for a 20 year old Norwegian blonde. Left school and followed her to Norway, get a job as a deck boy on an inshore fishing boat and slept on board. Latter went on offshore fishing boats going up towards Iceland. Made sufficient money to pay my way to university and buy my first sportscar. Fifty years later still look back on the experience with awe. Ironically my old cheap student car is now a classic collector's item and worth far more than my present car.

what ever happened with the chick?

BUMBLEBEE7 05-09-05 08:26 PM

let her Idle for a little bit.

Tech_Greek 05-09-05 08:27 PM

The smoke will clear after you rev it though! :)

BUMBLEBEE7 05-09-05 08:29 PM

check your pm


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