Project Kramer Dyno - 370 RWHP!!
 

Well,

We had a really nice time on Saturday with the
MRCCFL crew.

We had a Dyno Event, a BBQ, and a tour oss the SpeedSource shop which is building competitive RX-8's for Daytona!

I have a REALLY Good Video of my Car doing the Dyno runs, but I don't have a host that can support many users & high bandwidth.

Anyway - I did Three pulls.

1) Stock Wastegate Spring at 9 PSI = 270 RWHP
2) Boost set to 12 PSI (What I normally use) = 315 RWHP

It got a little lean at the top, so we decided to re-jet it for the higher boost runs for safety.

Then:

3) Boost set to 17 PSI = 370 RWHP.

All Done on a Holley Blow-Through system, on regular pump gas.

Here is the Dyno sheet with all three runs:

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...postid=2588914

My tuner believes on C-16 (Race Gas) I could easily go to 23 PSI safely which should produce about 460 RWHP.

I think I'll try that combination at the track for the hell of it :)

So, who's going to host the VIDEO's?

I have:

Wow, can't wait to see everything after you get the race gas. That is amazing. Good luck with all of that.

DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS

Noice dude. i cant wait to slap mine on the dyno once i get it runniN!

Wow! Great job of building a great running engine!

NICE!!

I can host the video, probably the decent one that is 15mb. Just email or pm me
omid@bcrx7.com

Cheers,
Omid

DF that's awesome.

Must have a great turbo/compressor to do that much.

Wonder if you still want to go Haltec after all that? Seems like you have something working real good.

Scott

Wow, those numbers are amazing! I bet it feels good to have all that work done. I'm shooting for 275 on a ported 12a blow through that I should be wrapping up shortly! I wish I could/knew someone that could host your videos, Im sure theyre pretty nice

Just imagine what power you'll make once you get around to putting the haltech on there again!

Either way, 370RWHP is pretty goddamn good, no wonder why u smoked that rx-8!

The Haltech will give more drivability, and fuel efficiency. But it will not increase HP by than 5-10% in total.

An RX-8 with an exhaust system Dyno'd yesterday too.
180ish to the wheels.

or sell the haltech and buy some other stuff, seems like they holley is working just fine. I like the a/f's also.

-Marques

here's the video guys/gals:

http://www.bcrx7.com/movies/Directfreak.avi

nice, thanks but i can't see the video, all i'm getting is sound. it says i was unable to download a decompressor. whatever that means.

What are the details on your turbo setup?

Brian

You need the DIVX Decoder Codec from Media Player.

Are you planning any races? I want to know how those drooling HP translate into speed. Post some slips or at least G-tech #'s.

can't wait. nice going.

UNF UNF UNF.


That's awesome man....can wait to see what that thing can do.

I wonder what 370 hp feels like in an FB..
thx for the vid

Great vid Alex. That was a pretty good turn out at the BBQ.

I'll PM you the links of the wheels for your widebody

Bitchin' dude.... It's awesome to see some real numbers from a turbo'd wankel... Great job!!!! :drool: :bowdown:

only one day I hope too see the same numbers from my car... :evilgrin:

matt

Truely amazing! I bet it feels great to see the actual numbers. I can't wait to see the vids.

The problem with dynoing an RX-8 is that the computer senses front wheels aren't moving and puts the engine into "limp mode". I don't know if anyone has figured out how to bypass this little problem.

Shit DF, I just wanted 350 RWHP on my project... Ya think I could pull that off with a blow through setup also? I was JUST thinking last night about going blowthrough for "simplicity" to start with (like ioTus), maybe using a DCO carb though, then later when I can afford it switching it out for an EFI throttle body. I would still run a stage 2 turbo and stuff, but do you think I could pull off 350 with a blow through stock port 13BT and modded turbo?

~T.J.

EDIT: Heres what the site says about the turbo I plan on getting:

The Video is being Hosted by ABEOMID, see further up at his link.

They have, it still goes into limp mode, but not until you get the runs in.

Got it... I shoulda said... I can't wait to get off this damn modem and onto my office's T1 so I can download it. :D


Can you explain further? links?

Thanks

Great video, nice server too, 260k/sec average.

Mine's only making about 225-250rwhp now, can't wait until I put on the weber, T04B, and the intercooler. Oh yeah, the new dowel pinned and streetported 12a might help too :) Hopefully I'll be able to put down a bit more power then.

Something tells me that the "fix" only keeps the car from going into limp mode long enough for you to dyno, then it goes into it. So its just a few seconds of time to get the runs in.

~T.J.

Awesome video, you have nearly an identical setup to my TII.

-Marques

Shit yea i am just wanting to see 225-275 in my stockport gslse with dellorto 48dhla. Good job DF your car continues to be a keeper :)

Yeah we figured it out at work, you have to hold the DSC button for 5 seconds, rather than just pushing it.

Are those the numbers you were going for DF ??

Fandamntastic DF! :beerchug: :bigthumb:

With the Carb setup I was going for 350, so technically, yes. I sure as hell suprised the third Gens at the Dyno!

With The Haltech, I want 400 rwhp.

DF, whats your setup ie: engine, turbo size, fuel, ignition, wastegate. Great numbers, it must be damn near impossible to keep that thing going staight. Thanks for letting me know your setup.

Kind Regards
mike

It's all here:

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/member...iew&car_id=672

Same address as my "WWW" link.

If you need more specifics, let me know.

DF, are you running FI or Carb? Your description had a 650 listed and 720cc with 1600s. Anyway, congrats on the success now go beat the hell out of some 3rd gens.

mike

Right now I am running the Carb. The Haltech unit was defective and I sent it back to AUS.

It should be back by late February.

:)

Will you be doing any driveline upgrades by then?

cool

Mel, i don't think he's going to the drag race 10 grand
dump the clutch type of abuse. He wants a fire breathing
wide body 1st gen. no wide body drag cars. we all know
370-400 horse power will eat a stock rearend for lunch.
ajc13b (steve brown) went through a couple of rearends
drag racing, if anybody knows how to , and how much
a rearend will run that can handle that kind of power
he does. remember that DF.

Trust me, a Ford 8.8 rear is in the works..

Here, here...
I'm trying to work out the details right now, but I'm considering a ford 8.8 using two of the short axles/housing from a ford ranger (I estimate it will narrow the rear 1.5-2.5" if using the stock drums), then using the Lincoln Towncar/Mark VIII disk brakes (which should bring the track out to near-stock location). The only hitch is the fact that the Rangers use a 5x4.5 pattern...

Of course then I'd have to somehow upgrade to 5-lug TII/GXL hubs and rotors in the front to compensate ;)

DF, What are your ideas on a 8.8?

*cries* I want a turbo'd fb. I guess I should work on just getting my 88 TII running first, but ya, I've always wanted a turbo first gen, and hopefully some day I'll own one. So yummy, so fast, so awesomely old school.

Logan

nice man

You can get a GSL-SE front, and Re-Drill them to 5 lug too. I am not sure about the Ranger axle, I don't know if it's centered, or how wide.

Seemd like the old 5.0's are an almost exact fit though.
When I am ready, I will definately talk to those who know alot more about them than I do.

BTW, Eville140 here has quite the extensive knowledge on them.

Fords are some tough shit. If i remember right a lincoln versigh, ??? it looks just like the granada,4 door, anyway. has a 9', rear disk brake, thats the one that bolts up to the mustangs, bullet proof ! i don't know what ford performance parts are still around, i'd say a ford 8' ,3rd member, zooms, make the 3rd member nodg-u-ler iron, and detroit locker ,or better. Or buy a lenco pro street rearend, but thats toooo much money.
IMO

Anyone?

~T.J.

Damn double posts...

~T.J.

OOps. Sorry TJ, I missed it. No, with a "modded" stock turbo, the answer is no. Not 350.

275, 300 maybe. It's not just a turbo, it's the combination of everything. The exhaust manifolf, the exhaust, the intercooler efficiency, the ignition system, - they all have to be sized accordingly relative to each other.

Please note that at 12PSI (315HP), my car is already SUPER fast. I think even 275-300hp is a shitload of HP on a 1st Gen.

Hey DF,

When you switched to carb, what kind of mods did you do to the fuel system? New pump and everything, or just a return style pressure regulator?

The fuel system you had before was SICK. I'd be a shame to not use it some how on the holley.

Oh and RMD,

Why are you only going to run a stock port? Its not too much more, and a really great thing to do while the motor is apart. I so wish I had streetported my motor when I had the chance. Now I'm kicking myself in the ass.

Same Fuel system, Same Pump, only a new regulator.
(Mallory 4309)

I do need to change the pump location. It's louder than the exhaust at idle. I think I am gonna mount it on the back bumper.

When I shut the pump off (with the switch), the car runs off the fuel bowls. Man, it's quiet then. Sounds like a 100% Stock GSL-SE