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smnc 09-26-05 12:34 PM

Plexiglass/Polycarbonate Moonoofs
 
This thread is just to gauge interest.

I had a nice lightweight plexiglass moonoof on my car. It was nice because it had the advantages of being lightweight AND transparent, giving me the best of all worlds. Unfortunatly it was broken when my car rolled this past spring.
I've been had-pressed to find a replacement for my new car, so I've decided to make my own.

It's not too hard hard for those interested in doing it themselves, but it is SOME work.

I've had a few people contact me about the possibility of my producing the moonroof for others.

So basically it would break down to <$100 + shipping for the panel, pre-drilled and ready for hardware installation. You would have to re-use the hardware from you existing sunroof or a junkyard roof (2 front pivots/clips, rear latch/clip). The only replacement source I have found for the sunroof hardware is VB and it's ~$150 from them.

The roofs would be made from strong lightweight plexiglass, tinted probably a medium bronze. It weighs about half as much as the stock metal roofs, and WAY less than the stock glass.

There might also be alternate tints available, or the possibility of Polycarbonate (lighter and stronger), for slightly more, depending on interest.

This is all based on the larger Series 2-3 roofs with the big knob/crank. The smaller Series 1 (SA) roofs could also be made, probably cheaper (depending on demand).

Now as I said at the beginning of the post, this is just an interest thread. The prices are still rough at this point, and production wouldn't start until the new year at the earliest.

But if you're interested, please post.
I also welcome constructive feedback and comments on this project.
If you think this is a pile of crap, that's your right, but keep it polite please.

Thanks!
-Spencer

smnc 09-26-05 12:38 PM

For those who want a lightweight sunroof option immediately, read this:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/fibreglass-hoods-464310/

Also, if you're interested in making a plexi roof yourself, feel free to contact for what I've already learned...

smnc 09-27-05 02:43 PM

bump...
Nobody...?

85rotarypower 09-27-05 04:24 PM

I might be interested if I'm able to use hardware from a steel moonroof. Mine is getting rusted and in need of replacement. I would like to go with a "clear sunroof".

RustyRotary 09-27-05 04:30 PM

I'd like to see some pictures first. One problem is that it already gets hotter than hell in my car on sunny days, and a transparent sunroof wouldn't help that in the least.

luiml73 09-27-05 04:36 PM

I made some for the Second Gen boys. For the FB, it would be 10 times easier. Just take your original roof to a place that sells Poly and cut out a mold. You could probably make 4 roofs from one sheet.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=polycarbonate

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=polycarbonate


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...7/fa3c8309.jpg

smnc 09-27-05 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by luiml73
I made some for the Second Gen boys. For the FB, it would be 10 times easier. Just take your original roof to a place that sells Poly and cut out a mold. You could probably make 4 roofs from one sheet.

5 from one sheet by my calculations...


Originally Posted by 85rotarypower
I might be interested if I'm able to use hardware from a steel moonroof. Mine is getting rusted and in need of replacement. I would like to go with a "clear sunroof".

Yup. Hardware from metal will work fine...


Originally Posted by RustyRotary
I'd like to see some pictures first. One problem is that it already gets hotter than hell in my car on sunny days, and a transparent sunroof wouldn't help that in the least.

Of course you'll be able to see one first:D
Just wanted to know if I should bother planning out the production or just make mine and call it a day...

Right now I'm planning a medium bronze tint to cut down the solar issue, but it would be possible to do a darker tint if people are interested...

RustyRotary 09-27-05 05:33 PM

Bronze huh? Would go well with my brown interior *gag*

Still trying to get used to that color...

smnc 09-27-05 05:41 PM

It's the "standard" tinting colour... Others are available too...

Dick Elliott 09-27-05 05:58 PM

Sun Roof
 
How thick of material are you going to use? Thanks, DICK

smnc 09-27-05 06:23 PM

Right now I'm planning 1/4" plexi, as that's what my orignal roof was. If people are interested in the roof, I was thinking of prototyping 1/5" with a bit more reinforcement to see if I can save on cost/weight/shipping without sacrificing quality. (Cost savings would, of couse, be passed on to the buyers)

The polycarbonate could possibly be thinner as it's a stronger material.

inuissus_cendi 09-27-05 09:19 PM

i might be interested, how much weight savings do you think they would give? (each of them)

thanks

RustyRotary 09-27-05 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by smnc
It's the "standard" tinting colour... Others are available too...

I was gaging at the interior color, not the tint color lol

smnc 09-27-05 09:33 PM

I'm hoping I can get the plexi down to about 6-7 lbs, and maybe 4lbs for the poly...
These are estimates only so don't kill me if it changes, but it should be close...

I don't have my stock glass or metal roofs here, so you'll have to wait until Thursday if you want the weight of the stock parts...

smnc 09-27-05 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by RustyRotary
I was gaging at the interior color, not the tint color lol

Hehe, np.

I had the maroon and brown on my last car...
I'm sure brown seemed like a good idea back in the 80's...

Hyper4mance2k 09-27-05 09:45 PM

is it going to be flat or rounded and follow the lines of the car?

perfect_circle 09-27-05 09:49 PM

i would be intersted if i had a sunroof:(

smnc 09-27-05 10:20 PM

It'll be made from a flat sheet. However it IS somewhat flexible, and the positioning of the two forward clips should provide enough curve. If it doesn't I'll have to figure out how to make it curved.

Let me say this:
I won't be producing these if I cannot get the quality high enough.
I won't produce a product I wouldn't use on my own car.

mar3 09-27-05 11:53 PM

I'll have the disposable income necessary by next Spring for a purchase. Count me in...:cool:

smnc 09-28-05 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by perfect_circle
i would be intersted if i had a sunroof:(

I have a Sawsall you can borrow! Lol!:rlaugh:

IanS 09-28-05 07:08 AM

Here is my 2 cents.

You should bake the plexi/polycarb in the oven for a bit so it can take form and therefore cause less stress on screws and frame. It wouldnt take much and should fit into a normal oven. Of course, I havent tried this theory. Would be best to use a newer oven also so there is a few more inches of depth just in case.

smnc 09-28-05 09:27 AM

That's a possiblity. I was actually going to talk to my plexi place(s) to see what they reccomend, although I'm not worried about a stressing the plexi. It has a Flexural Strength (Rupture) of 16,500psi

smnc 10-12-05 11:24 AM

Okay,
Update:
I've gotten a quote back and it looks like ~$100 + shipping is perfectly do-able... might be a couple bucks less, but it definitely WILL NOT be higher than $100US

I'm going to be ordering a couple prototypes in the next few weeks, and we'll see how it goes...

smnc 10-17-05 06:05 PM

Okay, the poject will be on hold for a couple weeks while I'm in the proccess of moving, plus I want to wait for Forum approval before this moves from being project to an item for sale...

Hopefully have info for a group buy in a month or so...

Shannon Curtis 11-18-19 07:03 AM

Polycarb moon roof
 

Originally Posted by smnc (Post 4810726)
For those who want a lightweight sunroof option immediately, read this:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=464310

Also, if you're interested in making a plexi roof yourself, feel free to contact for what I've already learned...

Very keen to learn more about your plexi roof install. I have a 79 Kombi van and need to address a hole left over from a poorly installed roof vent. Was thinking that making a moon roof out of poly carb would be dope, however I am concerned on how to install it properly to make sure it 100%water tight.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated


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