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How to determine the condition of a 12a with no starter

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Old Feb 11, 2026 | 03:52 PM
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How to determine the condition of a 12a with no starter

Im considering buying a 12a outside of a car with no starter. Is there a way to determine if it will run and if would need to replace housing, plates, or seals. I've seen videos of people turning them over with a 19mm socket and listening for even strokes, but how much would this tell me. I also don't have a compression tester.

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Old Feb 11, 2026 | 04:04 PM
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Turning it over by hand will give you a yes/no on compression, but no empirical values. You should hear a chug with every compression stroke. You need to turn the engine over at least twice to hear all 6 pulses. They should sound distinct and consistent.

This will only give you a feeling if it has SOME compression. Beyond that, besides getting real values with a starter, or pulling it apart to determine the inside conditions, you're flying a little blind. I would use this as a negotiation point if you're unsure.
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Old Feb 11, 2026 | 04:35 PM
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There are cheap borescopes that can transmit to your phone, stick that in the intake/exhaust ports and spark plug holes to see if there's major chrome flaking.
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Old Feb 11, 2026 | 04:57 PM
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I appreciate the speedy replies. Can you recommend a good borescope, Ive heard they often have trouble focusing. Say I end up just listening for the even whooshes and it has them, what would be the highest you guys would pay for it? The 12a has been painted so I assume its been rebuilt.
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Old Feb 11, 2026 | 09:33 PM
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Hard to say anymore on price. These used to be dirt cheap, but then the supply ran dry and now people are asking some insane prices. Does he already have a price it's listed at?
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Old Feb 14, 2026 | 04:23 AM
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I have a very njce borescope made by Vevor. I got it on Amazon for around $60 and it has a great picture, good sized screen, takes and SD card, and is rechargeable. I can post a picture of the scope a little later when im in the garage.

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