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You know those round "barrel keys" that are used on Kryptonite bike locks? I would like to install a lock that requires that key in my floor board under the mat... It would be as a "master power" switch between the ignition and the solenoid, so that no dipshit could hot-wire the car.

Does anybody know if any company makes anything like that? I know there were companies that make a floor board lock for gas lines, but if you are running fuel injection, you can't use it. I'm just trying to think of the easiest way to keep her safe, ya know?

That would be cool.

JCWhitney sells 'em.

I'd do it on the fuel pump instead, or main - ground... or all 3? I dunno.

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i think that one has a removable key

years ago i remember seeing a brake lock device that was really cool. you would push the brake pedal,turn and remove a key. your brakes would remain locked until you reinsert the key and turn it. so even if someone got in your car and wasa able to hotwire it they couldnt drive anywhere.

now that i think about it that might not be a good idea.

why not pull the fuel pump fuse instead, and if you are really anal, replace it with a burnt out fuse.

That would be really cool cause your car would not be going anywhere unless of course it was somehow loaded on a flatbed truck which is kinda unlikely even then the brakes would still be locked making it a pain... Very cool idea, now we just need to find someone who makes these...

i think it was in the summit catalog but i cant remember the name and i havent seen them in a while. but then again its years since ive bought a summit catolag

Those brake locks are the way to go.

http://www.autosportcatalog.com/inde...cid/86/sc/2737

found one. Either for brake or for brake and clutch pedals.

only $35

I should get one myself :D

i dont see how that would lock, does anyone else? that could actually be a really good idea. i was wanting to get an alarm system installed in my 7 but i dont know

Well, I am getting an alarm as well, but I just thought it would be nice to have something hidden... Kinda like a master switch for more risky areas (even though I'm nowhere near any...)

My '85 GSL-SE has "Star Key Saftey Locks" on the doors. It was installed back in the '80s by the original owner. I like them, but worry about losing my keys...not quite sure I can get duplicates made!

http://rx-sevenandahalf.com/misc/locks1a.jpg

I'm not sure about there being any sort of barrel lock electrical switches, which is what it sounds like you are looking for.

what is the whole purpose of the star key? i mean i know it would be hard to pick, but honestly all someone has to do is break your window and theyre in. i like the batterie kill switch but thatd be too much trouble. the idea of running a kill switch to the fuel pump isnt bad one at all, but id also like a way to prevent tem from entering my car at all. maybe i should invest in some bulletproof glass ;) jk

I find that people don't mess with my car after it is in my garage with the doors locked and the alarm set! :) I do worry though when I take it places.

I mainly just like that I won't break my key off in the lock, as I've done before with the conventional flat keys. :) It's also just a tad more secure than the any-mazda-key-will-work stock locks, as they are all worn out at this point. Sure, there is always a way to defeat whatever security precautions you take, but the idea is that someone will find your car just a bit harder to break into than the one parked next to you and thus pick the easier target. Theives are lazy...if they weren't, they wouldn't be theives. My car also has an aftermarket alarm and I park it inside a relatively secure gated parking lot, just under my bedroom window.

I have been toying with the idea of installing a Water Thermo Sensor "open-short" switch on my fuel injected GSL-SE. It would not stop someone from starting the car, but it would make the car almost undrivable and put out a big cloud of fuel smoke as the car dumps fuel into the engine, thinking it's negative-40 degrees outside. :) I had that inadvertently happen on one of my old 2nd gens and the damn thing could barely make it through an intersection, bucking and coughing. I suppose you could do something similar with the Air Flow Meter, too. On a carb'd 1st gen, the fuel cut is about the only practical approach, though.

thats not the ones i was talking about. the one i was reffering to is actually a hydraulic lock meaning that it ties into the lines of the brake system. when locked it doesnt allow fluid to pass.

those pedal locks can be easily defeated esspeciallyif you consider you only have to drive it far enough to work on it without being disturbed. you dont really need a clutch or brakes to get it that far.im sure most will agree since probablly like me your clutch safety switch doesnt work(even if it does its not hard to bypass) and im sure most of you have had your clutch master or slave cylinder go out and have to drive a short distance without use of a clutch. even the newer cars with the brake/shift interlock(where you cant shift out of park without pressing the pedal) is a failsafe system and all you have to do is turn the ignitionto the first position,pull out of park into nuetral,start car and drive.they make it that way so you can still drive it to be repaired in the case of a brake switch or shift solenoid failure.

blake.
where would someone get a set of those locks? would they only be usable on the doors or can you also install it on the hatch and or gas door? how much would the kit run for? thanks

No clue. Mine were installed back in the 80s, by the original owner. But, I need spare keys and if I can't find them, I might just see about finding replacement locks of the same variety. Anyone interested in a Group Buy?

im down if they can do all the locks and most likely if they are only for the doors also.

Remember those floor-mounted dimmer switches used on domestic cars up until the late 70's? Depress it once, your lights go bright. Depress it again and your lights go back to dim. It could also be used as an on/off switch. One of those would be great for disabling the electric fuel pump.

Mount it in a discrete location, preferrably under the carpeting of the floor behind the clutch pedal. Not only would this keep your car from being stolen from your driveway or the underground lot at the mall, it would also insure that a would-be car jacker would only get about 1/2 block before the engine quit--- enough time for you to make your escape.

i think behind the clutch petal would be a pain, because if you hit the clutch too hard, you'd kill the car

Nice idea aviator... bet that would confues the shit out of them too if the knew anything aboaut 7's.

Also those star locks are not the most secure thing either... If you need a replacement key pm me...

Toxic_d

Cheapest/best security:

Hidden cut off switches. Be creative in your hiding, and your car becomes unstealable.

I've got one on the fuel pump, as it will allow the car to be started, but not driven or restarted. Makes theif think car is poorly tuned, and not worth stealing.

You could also break the coil power. This one is good because the car will crank, but not start, and since you are grounding the low voltage side of the coil, you can get away with not using a relay. Makes hiding the wiring easier.

Obviously keyed hidden switches are better than regular hidden switches. I've even seen plans for a cut off switch that can only be activated by placing a magnet at a certain point on the dashboard.

Oh, for the really cheap, just take the dizzy rotor with you when you leave the car.

Harley ignitions use the round keys,

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ROUND-KEY-FATBOB-...QQcmdZViewItem

You could make something like that work ^


Something like this would be nice too,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCR...spagenameZWD1V

Hate to post this but here is the crap I am talking about...
http://www.engadget.com/entry/3744297085452721/

More and more locks of this general type are being found to have the same vulerablity...

Quick video... http://media.weblogsinc.com/common/videos/pt/lock.wmv

:eek:

Yeah like I said not secure!!!

Yeah, for two reasons.

One, you'd need to rewire your brake lights to an ignition source, or you'd kill your battery quickly.

And two, most of those devices go up to the steering wheel. Steering wheels are NOT substantial, they are maybe 1/4" of steel surrounded by a lot of plastic and foam. It would take less time to cut the steering wheel with bolt cutters than to unlock the device with a key. (This also counts for The Club, the "kick me" sign of anti theft devices)

I like the hidden under the carpet dimmer switch idea... If you got car-jacked you could kick it on your way out... Maybe set it to a 30 second timer???

Spot on. If someone wants it, they'll get it. Don't rely on those locks being any more secure than a regular lock. The Kryptonite bike locks can be opened with the tube from a bic pen. I'll try to find the link for ya. Other locks are more secure, but it proves that you can break or pick any lock given enough time and some ingenuity.

I've found from the 4 other people allowed to drive my car that arent RX-7 owners and observing friends as they watch me start it that few people can drive a stick and even fewer can manage to start a carbureted car that is as sensitive to temperature as a stock Nikki. Effing kids don't know what a choke is or how to lightly feather the gas to give it just enough juice to fire but not flood.

Kill switches and funky locks still have a lot of old school car movie cool factor though. I always kinda wanted to just wire up a row of toggle switches that had to be in the right position to start my car. On my '65 Lincoln it would have worked since I could bury it so deep in the dash that it wouldn't be easy to get to. The 7 is a bit different though.

its been posted already by me...

Kryptonite lock picked http://media.weblogsinc.com/common/videos/pt/lock.wmv

ok i dont think i correctly described that in the first post i made. it doesnt hold down your brake pedal its a hydraulic lock meaning you push the pedal to set the pressure and turn a key, this lock then holds pressure on the system. it has nothing to do with those stupid little club knockoffs

I think some of the simplest things are:

Fuel Cut Defenser straight onto the fuel pump (with switch)

Have a big bright ass led mounted when your alarm is on so it flashes

place club lock onto your wheel whenver you park. See pic

http://www.eibis.com/eibis/eibiswww/...x/4004-car.jpg

have a battery isolater on your vehicle to cut power going to your battery poles.

Have 2 fuel imobs...with 2 switches...1 VERY hidden (perhaps somewhere like in spare tyre well with tyre over it) and the other tucked away behind in your LOCKED glove box for example.

Cheap options:

Remove spark leads when parked from plugs.
Remove fuses from vehicle

Anything that makes the car visibly harder to steal is the key.

Oh, so it's a key operated line lock.

Doesn't sound like a real bright idea.

I always liked the idea of a switched hydraulic circuit, where if you flip a switch, your power steering reverses which side of the ram it activates. So if you try to turn left, the power assist tries to steer to the right.