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etizz 07-13-09 10:13 PM

engine won't shut off
 
ok well i searched for this and apparently everyone is having starting issues, i am however having no starting issues, but my engine will not shut off with the key, one thing i've noticed is that the gauges like fuel and oil and temp all keep working even after i had taken the key all the way out and was holding it in my hand, what gives? the only thing that did shut off like it should was the aftermarket tach i have hooked up? any suggestions where to look?

FbDrift 07-13-09 11:05 PM

did anyone rewire the car? when you added the aftermarket tach did you mess with a bunch of wires?

84stock 07-13-09 11:17 PM

very secret trick grasshopper, now trust me, turn off the car, remove the key and "depress power window switch"........remember, trust me, and post your results

FbDrift 07-13-09 11:21 PM

what if he doesnt have power windows.

rxtasy3 07-13-09 11:37 PM

somehow there's 12v still going to the ignition system when the switch is off. here's what i'd try. with the engine running and the switch off, start pulling fuses one by one. when the engine stops, the problem is in that circuit. good luck.

84stock 07-14-09 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by 84stock (Post 9355413)
very secret trick grasshopper, now trust me, turn off the car, remove the key and "depress power window switch"........remember, trust me, and post your results

Try........make very happy grasshopper

thunkrd 07-14-09 03:25 AM

+1
i'd say your ignition switch is messed up electrically.

Grasshopper!

mazdaverx713b 07-14-09 09:56 AM

sounds like a faulty ignition switch. whats the deal with the power window switch? my curiosity is aroused

etizz 07-14-09 10:18 AM

well the ignition switch supposedly has been replaced and it looks new and i have receipts for its replacement

DivinDriver 07-14-09 10:22 AM

You can't see the ignition swaitch (the electrical part) without taking the steering surround off.

Are you sure you're not looking at a new ignition lock... which is a separate piece from the switch?

Jeezus 07-14-09 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by 84stock (Post 9355413)
very secret trick grasshopper, now trust me, turn off the car, remove the key and "depress power window switch"........remember, trust me, and post your results

Bump. Interested in results.

84stock 07-14-09 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jeezus (Post 9356364)
Bump. Interested in results.

Waiting for him to try, and then i shall tell the story.......

etizz 07-14-09 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by DivinDriver (Post 9356156)
You can't see the ignition swaitch (the electrical part) without taking the steering surround off.

Are you sure you're not looking at a new ignition lock... which is a separate piece from the switch?

positive, my car never came with a steering surround lol, i hope the previous owner didn't pay midas like 250 bucks for a new lock cylinder only

etizz 07-14-09 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by 84stock (Post 9356550)
Waiting for him to try, and then i shall tell the story.......

i'm a bit skeptical to try this honestly, my car has had enough wiring problems in its day to make me comfortable to try this without fear of blowing something else up. i just got every other wiring issue sorted out it ever had thanks to this forum(or so i thought until this came up)

n0ferz 07-14-09 02:19 PM

wanna know too :lol:

84stock 07-14-09 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by etizz (Post 9356611)
i'm a bit skeptical to try this honestly, my car has had enough wiring problems in its day to make me comfortable to try this without fear of blowing something else up. i just got every other wiring issue sorted out it ever had thanks to this forum(or so i thought until this came up)

Try it, no harm. Push the button and the engine will shut off!

84stock 07-14-09 02:35 PM

I had the same exact problem.......

Starfox07 07-14-09 02:50 PM

My guess is that because the p/w is switch power it will reset the entire circuit or something :lol:

*anxious to see results and explanation*

AcidAngel7477 07-14-09 05:56 PM

hmmmm...explain man.

:AA:

blackdeath647 07-14-09 06:26 PM

i believe all of us are intrigued with this "window button" engine shut off

AntonL 07-14-09 06:32 PM

im super curious now too, try it dude

RotoricanNY 07-14-09 06:35 PM

me too, tell us damnit! lol

©ØÐËߣüË 07-14-09 07:03 PM

yes yes please tell.......

Unevolved 07-14-09 07:11 PM

I wanna know, come on OP. Just do it.

84stock 07-14-09 07:28 PM

Before you all jump at the ignition switch as the culprit, I changed that and it still had the same issue, alternator as well, same issue. Now push the damn button...

etizz 07-14-09 08:31 PM

lol well i was doing other things with the car today, i will try tomorrow, driver or passenger side up or down?

84stock 07-14-09 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by etizz (Post 9357464)
lol well i was doing other things with the car today, i will try tomorrow, driver or passenger side up or down?

Doesn't matter

RotoricanNY 07-15-09 11:13 AM

the suspense is killing me!!! :lol:

©ØÐËߣüË 07-15-09 12:11 PM

Man how long does it take to push the button.

DivinDriver 07-15-09 12:43 PM

Electrical systems are science, not magic... it's not a "fix" unless it's understood why it works... and why it becomes necessary to load down the electrical system to get the engine to stop.

RotoricanNY 07-15-09 02:06 PM

well if you create a load big enough as to where your ignition system does not have enough amperage/voltage is not gonna create enough spark to keep the combustion cycle going on thus stopping the engine. but the problem is not fixed until you find the short that's causing your ignition to stay on.

84stock 07-15-09 10:13 PM

shhhhh, you're gonna ruin the story...Now push the f%^$#*g button!

thunkrd 07-16-09 01:23 AM

damn, this is crazy... how much longer do we have to wait?

blackdeath647 07-16-09 06:35 AM

if i was to take a guess i'd say he's already pushed the button, and it shut the engine off, and he wants to learn why it did work so he has an educated guess, which is something i would do.

or it didn't work and he doesn't want to waste anyone's time until he figures it out, but maybe we don't all think alike.

or he hasn't done it because he's scared it may fuck something else up.....either way i want to know your story dammit, now share 84stock :lol:

DivinDriver 07-16-09 09:40 AM

Or he did what 84stock told him and the car blew up... making it difficult to report back...

AntonL 07-17-09 02:17 AM

jeez he still hasnt done it? omg i wanna know this!!!!!!

lastphaseofthis 07-17-09 02:32 AM

you've got my instrest, now stop stalling!! no puns intended.

OtakuRX 07-17-09 07:34 AM

I'm mad curious. WAIT it's not an ejector seat is it?

©ØÐËߣüË 07-17-09 08:42 AM

He's out getting gas ,because the car is still running

84stock 07-17-09 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by ©ØÐËߣüË (Post 9363468)
He's out getting gas ,because the car is still running

Funny :lol:

blackdeath647 07-17-09 05:08 PM

it activated the factory flux capacitor and has now gone back in time.

etizz 07-17-09 07:40 PM

lol nice responses every one. but the verdict is................................................ ............................................ it DIDN'T do anything but roll my window down, which still puts me back to square one. lol sorry to keep you waiting, any insight on this?

FbDrift 07-17-09 07:47 PM

if yours is a 5 speed couldnt you just stall it out and drop the clutch in 5th at idle? with the ebrake on?

etizz 07-17-09 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by FbDrift (Post 9364980)
if yours is a 5 speed couldnt you just stall it out and drop the clutch in 5th at idle? with the ebrake on?

wow so i'm supposed to do this everytime i wanna turn my car off? i think that might be a bit harsh on the drive train

rxtasy3 07-17-09 11:41 PM

but it works til u can find the problem if u still have to drive the car.

84stock 07-17-09 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by etizz (Post 9364976)
lol nice responses every one. but the verdict is................................................ ............................................ it DIDN'T do anything but roll my window down, which still puts me back to square one. lol sorry to keep you waiting, any insight on this?

Damn! Okay, first is the alternator, check all connections! If you have a spare then test it, otherwise unplug the pigtail from the alternator while it is running with the ignition off. If it stops, possible alternator, if not, possible ignition.

74RX4 07-18-09 05:22 AM

There should be only one Black/white wire with a rubber cover connected to the + terminal on each coil. Are there additional wires connected to your + coil terminals?

etizz 07-19-09 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by 74RX4 (Post 9365735)
There should be only one Black/white wire with a rubber cover connected to the + terminal on each coil. Are there additional wires connected to your + coil terminals?

nope, one black/white wire

etizz 10-20-11 08:12 AM

Bringing this back from the dead just for an update of what the issue was, somehow by pure chance I started the car after having the gauge cluster out and I went to turn the key off n then my kill switch off and the car quit after the key turned off, so by pure disbelief, I started it again and turned it off no problem with the key so something with the gauge cluster wiring , random right?

glewsRx 10-20-11 11:40 AM

by key do you mean window switch?


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