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Kiran P 02-28-19 02:13 PM

door rubbers
 
Hello,

does anyone knows where i can buy good rubbers for the doors?

it is for an first gen rx7 sa22c from 1980.

thank you.

midnight mechanic 02-28-19 02:52 PM

rubber for my doors, sure I do , and I found the info by using the search function. search door weatherstripping rx-7 1980

rockauto.com autozone.com etc has them.

prices vary widely

Kiran P 02-28-19 03:03 PM

Hello,

Yes but i cannot order them now by rockauto (out of stock). The next problem is i live in Holland so all i know is that rockauto is shipping internationally.
I don't know if there are other websites like rockauto that send parts internationally.

thank you.

Rx7fb spirit r 02-28-19 03:41 PM

Kitisak Piyamitlawan
autodepot_service@hotmail.com

I got my 6 rubber parts fresh OEM built inclusive tracking for 118 Euro, Must wait about 2 week.The Company built the parts in the 80ty for Mazda does exist and made them for me.
Last rubber parts from Mazda does have long storage . US parts are to expensive to Import for german, Does not fit, or are to heavy to shut the door.
Very good deal and quality. Much more better then mazda original parts.
Thomas
8871-58-760 Door rubber = 38 USD/pc
8871-59-760 Door rubber = 38 USD/pc


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...ed5fc821b.jpeg

8871-58-781 Outer W/strip = 8 USD/pc x 2 = 16 USD
8871-58-791 Inner W/Strip = 8 USD/pc x 2 = 16 USD
8871-58-605C Run channel = We still don't have this item, if you may have any sample please let us know.

We could courier to you (7-14 days) = 51 USD

Kiran P 02-28-19 03:57 PM

Hello,

Thank you for the info as soon I finish some of the work on my rx-7, I will order these items.
I can save the email and contact u for the rubbers?

thank you again.

Rx7fb spirit r 02-28-19 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Kiran P (Post 12333022)
Hello,

Thank you for the info as soon I finish some of the work on my rx-7, I will order these items.
I can save the email and contact u for the rubbers?

thank you again.

You can read my Thread here. The mailadress is where you can order in thailand. Very nice and helpful guy.
http://www.rx7fb.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1990&hilit=Door+rubber

KansasCityREPU 02-28-19 05:56 PM

The after market version of the door seals is METRO LM107 and is sold by many places including eBay, Amazon, Summit Racing, etc. Amazon has them for $55 US.


ray green 02-28-19 06:19 PM

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Right on KC, those Metro LM107's are good rubbers.

I just installed a pair on my FB, what a difference!

Attachment 748076

Benjamin4456 03-01-19 10:29 PM

Hey, out of curiosity are y'all gluing your door seals in the tracks on install? When I did mine I didn't glue them, and every once in a while the passenger side pops out on top. From memory I believe there is an adhesive designed for this application, although I don't know one myself - without researching that is. Thoughts?

midnight mechanic 03-01-19 10:46 PM

I glued mine. Big mistake. The ones I got from rock auto fit in really snug. And the glue got in the way and I had to remove it. I got most of it, and it was a bitch to remove.

I bent the driver's door doing something really stupid and almost lost my fingers. Got a junk yard door, and tried to removed the new 10 y o door weatherstrips from the original bent door. It came of in pieces. I glued the pieces on the straight junk yard door. If it keeps the rain out, I will not have to drop $60(?) on another new weather strip.

After I fix the leaky weather seal problem, I can install this funky orange carpetting that I chose when I was drunk. WTF was I thinking?

ray green 03-02-19 09:01 AM

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I can confirm midnight's experience, I used some contact cement the first time I installed a pair of these Metros about ten years ago.

Then when I needed to remove them to put on another car I realized my mistake, they were hard to get off without damage.

The Rock Auto Metros I recently installed on the LE pictured above are without any adhesive and they are nice and snug, I doubt there will ever be any issues.

And if a problem does come up later I'll just put a dab of contact cement at that point to hold it in place.

The lower edge and section along the vertical parts of the doors are the only areas that might need adhesive:

Attachment 748075

PS - Midnight, I have some stock maroon carpets in good shape if have that interior and want to stay original, just let me know.

PSS - Also Ben the problem with it popping out on the top edge of the passenger door is most likely not caused by an absence of adhesive, in fact as I recall even the manufacturer's instructions don't call for adhesive in that area. Instead your seal is probably not securely seated in the door frame. There are two beads running along the inside mounting edge of the door seals that need to sit snugly into grooves on the door frame and this can be tricky. I ended up using a spatula to seat them in, that worked really well.

See more details here:

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-gen-gene...seals-1132591/

Benjamin4456 03-02-19 09:18 AM

Interesting. Yeah, I have the RA Metro's too and they seemed pretty snug. It's only every once in a while (such as when the door freezes or it's been more humid than normal) that they stick to the sill and get pulled out. I'd say it happens at least weekly, and I have to carry around a 'tongue depressor' as a reinstallment tool.

I didn't glue mine with the same logic (I figured they'd have to come out sometime in the next few years when I start to clean up the paint). Although obviously that's not been working for me, so perhaps I'll put a few dabs in to hold it. I found some 3M stuff and it's only six bucks so I think I'll give it a shot. Maybe I'll pull the channel section and let it sit for a while to try and let them expand a hair before I glue them.

Thanks.


Hey I just had a thought. If I remember correctly the Metro's have a '15 year warranty'. What are the odds that that would cover falling out seals? Actually... the instructions say to use glue so, perhaps not.

Edit: Well that PSS was timed well. I am aware of the two grooves that the seal has to sit it (like your spatula, I use a tongue depressor) and I'm fairly certain they're seated in there good. One thought though: I believe there was one time close to when I first installed them that they popped out without my knowledge, and the doors were closed on the unseated seal. Why they popped out in the first place I don't know, but I suppose it's a good chance that the above incident caused the seals to compress in places they were not supposed to.

Edit #2: Just read through that thread you linked, and I used darned near the exact same method that you did on installation. I also cleaned the jambs thoroughly so I doubt that's what caused the original case.

ray green 03-02-19 10:58 AM

Sounds like the problem is when it freezes a bit of moisture between the door frame and door seal freezes, effectively "gluing" the seal to the door frame. I don't have that problem here in Northeast Georgia, it almost never freezes.

Then when you open the door the seal pulls away because it's not seated well enough or maybe there's some residual grease on the seal that you applied when installing (like I did)..

When you get a chance you should try cleaning up the seal and the grooves on the door with some hot soapy water and/or solvent like isopropanol to remove any traces of grease, that might let the seal stick on the door better.

Rx7fb spirit r 03-02-19 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by ray green (Post 12333056)
Right on KC, those Metro LM107's are good rubbers.

I was making 2 detail picture sorry my bad german english. The problem are the edges that are glued. The bad rubber like yours you can see on top. Have a look on the different in the quality of the material on the picture i think.
My rubber doesn't need any glue.It will fitting better then yours as i can see on your picture you post above. BTW I am living in the black forest (a cold mountain) since 36 years without any issue.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...6f013f1686.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...3ca6c679d5.jpg


ray green 03-02-19 12:47 PM

Good point about those corners, that is definitely a weak point and that extra lip in your picture would help for sure.

Are yours original Mazda OEM units or an aftermarket replacement? Are they still available? How much do they cost?

I've never seen that extra lip on any of the several FBs I've owned and I'm sure at least some of them have original seals.

So the one in your picture is probably not original stock, at least in the US.

In any case, knowing that corner is a weak point I always take care not to stress it when installing and removing the seals.

So other than the first one I broke while removing I've haven't had that problem, even on seals that have been mounted several times.

Rx7fb spirit r 03-02-19 01:57 PM

Read above "4"

The company produced for Toyo Kokyo in the 80ies and reproduced the part in a modified new condition.




https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...5b1189bb92.jpg
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ray green 03-02-19 06:03 PM

I dunno, they look kind of crunched in the wrong places.

Are you sure those are for the FB?

Rx7fb spirit r 03-03-19 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by ray green (Post 12333430)
I dunno, they look kind of crunched in the wrong places.

Are you sure those are for the FB?

Absolutly shure. And believe me they suit perfect.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...cc94e61017.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...841a60b0e5.jpg

tommyeflight89 03-03-19 10:07 AM

Mazda OEM door seals are available, order at a Mazda dealership. I would imagine that Mazda dealers in Europe can still get you the parts, may take longer as they come from a warehouse in California I think. I'm in Canada and my local dealer can get any part in 3-4 days.

I believe all of the door related weather stripping is still available. (Door, window inner, outer, and the window channel)

Mazda OEM provides the best fitment, quality, and is sure to last for another 30 years.

So far I have just replaced the door weather strip as described in above posts.

ray green 03-03-19 11:13 AM

Yup, that's a nice fit alright.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...841a60b0e5.jpg

Rx7fb spirit r 03-03-19 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by tommyeflight89 (Post 12333502)
Mazda OEM door seals are available, order at a Mazda dealership. I would imagine that Mazda dealers in Europe can still get you the parts, may take longer as they come from a warehouse in California I think. I'm in Canada and my local dealer can get any part in 3-4 days.

I believe all of the door related weather stripping is still available. (Door, window inner, outer, and the window channel)

Mazda OEM provides the best fitment, quality, and is sure to last for another 30 years.

So far I have just replaced the door weather strip as described in above posts.

The pics above with the broken seal show the mazda OEM door seals i bought 15years ago. The seals where 20 years old and we all know rubber will wear out with the long age. No option in my opinion.

midnight mechanic 03-06-19 02:53 PM

the driver's door and the body doesn't hold daylight. those metal covers that go around the windshield are missing. does everyone else's rx-7 form a tight seal between window frame and the body? any suggestions on a good retro fit weather seal? there is bubble weather stripping at car parts places. the car was in a bad fiery accident and rebuilt before i bought it.

84rtaryrcket 03-06-19 04:32 PM

i bought some OEM seals through tasca parts.com they had the best prices and i also ordered OEM rear end links through them, also the best price, saved atleast $100 going through them

ray green 03-06-19 05:11 PM

"the driver's door and the body doesn't hold daylight. those metal covers that go around the windshield are missing. does everyone else's rx-7 form a tight seal between window frame and the body? any suggestions on a good retro fit weather seal? there is bubble weather stripping at car parts places. the car was in a bad fiery accident and rebuilt before i bought it."

Sounds like you've got a bent door, maybe even a bent door frame.

Bubble wrap and some contact cement would be a good way to fix it. cheaper than that stuff at the autoparts stores.

midnight mechanic 03-07-19 12:22 AM

the bubble weather strip has a hollow section, hence called bubble.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...f0c84931c1.png


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