Another Ford taurus fan install...
I have to admit this fan fit very nicely and is crazy powerful. I had out the old amp meter and the initial click on of the high speed drew 68.5 amps!!! Then had a steady 30 amp draw. I think the high setting is just to much for the FB alternator. I've got it hooked up on the low setting right now and all is well. Great highway and traffic light temps. We'll see how it works out this summer with the AC on. I think the 3gen 100amp alternator is in my near future.
Also what is everyone useing to seal around the schroud and the radiator. There is a very minimal amount of space but I'd like to fill it with some foam rubber or something similar.... http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ectircfan1.jpg |
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I like it!! What year taurus is it from? I would like to check for one the next time i'm in the yards. Thanks.
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yes i would like to know this also. and can you write up how to hook it up?
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Write Up!!! Write Up!!!!
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+1 to the beaner talk
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Originally Posted by Tranquil
+1 to the beaner talk
Also you'll need an alt upgrade to handle this fan on high. I'm not sure we even need to use the high setting. Low still pushes alot or air. I'll post up some wiring diagrams and how I did the attach points later. |
Originally Posted by vxturboxv
This was out of a 96... As far as a write up, theres 3 wires one ground one for high speed and 1 for low. Depending on which you want you use thats where you put your 12v source. I used a 30 amp relay and a switch. Problem is you'll need to use 2 30 amp relays or find a starter relay or something else that has enough amps (at least 50) for the fans high setting. I wish I would have just grabbed the relays on the taurus I'd reccomend doing that while your at the junkyard.
Also you'll need an alt upgrade to handle this fan on high. I'm not sure we even need to use the high setting. Low still pushes alot or air. I'll post up some wiring diagrams and how I did the attach points later. I tried this and I could not fit the fan the moter of the fan was hiting the crank pully the fan I have looks different from the one you used. I know the car was a taurus but I think it was a older one |
Originally Posted by Jose Feliciano
I tried this and I could not fit the fan the moter of the fan was hiting the crank pully the fan I have looks different from the one you used. I know the car was a taurus but I think it was a older one
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No the one he grabbed was out of a 3.0. You have to have the fan out of a 3.8. The 3.0 fan will not clear the front pully. I have one of each and just waiting to put mine in.
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On a scale of easines how would you rate this mod? 10 being difficult, and 1 being esy. Removing the carb with teh ratsnest still on would be a 5-6 ish (It was the second thing I did to my car)
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Chances are, if you can remove the rats nest you can pull this off.
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Ok so then I can do this... how much power will this free up on a 100% stocker?
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probably none....
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Maybe a couple of horsepower, the electric fans do not cool as well as a clutch fan but they take a little drag off the engine.
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I am really thinking about this mod. As I wanna hear more of my engine, but I feel with the stock clutch fan I hear more of that spinning up then I do the rotary.
Also there is a product out that can slowly build up power to the fan unstead off pulling it all at once. We did this on one of my buddies Isuzu. Worked Super good. I sure do hope I aint got to upgrade to the 3rd gen Alt I just sold mine, and I would be Pissed id I ended up needing it! |
my taurus fan does not slam on. It doesn't even seem to kill the volts, but i also only use low speed. high speed is wired to a switch in the car for track use. (helps cool down in between runs. i can leave it running with switch off)
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how about the adjustable thermostat that VB sells.. you think that would work?
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I have seen some people using Escort fans and since I and a Ford employee I can buy this pretty cheap....
Not to Hijack but does anyone know if the escort fan works as good as the taurus fan? Jay 1984 FB |
can you get either fan... i see that tauruses have 2 fans.. which one should i get?
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Fiero fan is much easier to install and it will run with regular fog lights relay. :)
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Originally Posted by Mazda12AGS
No the one he grabbed was out of a 3.0. You have to have the fan out of a 3.8. The 3.0 fan will not clear the front pully. I have one of each and just waiting to put mine in.
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wacky does it still hook up the same? is that what you have?
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a v8 3.4 ? in a taurus, i think your smoking crack, i've never seen a taurus with a v8 before
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Originally Posted by evil_motors
wacky does it still hook up the same? is that what you have?
$25 junkyard fiero fan with 2 wires pigtrail (+ & -). |
Originally Posted by Tatterjuice_771
a v8 3.4 ? in a taurus, i think your smoking crack, i've never seen a taurus with a v8 before
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Originally Posted by evil_motors
its a SHO taurus.. look it up.. they are fast
I love it when noobs throw stuff around like that... Rich |
i stand corrected, sorry bout that. I knew the 1st gen of sho's had a v6 but i didn't know that they put a v8 them, but they did in the last generation of sho's. I wouldn't mind having a v8 sho, pull off the sho badges and you get yourself one hell of a sleeper, add a little boost or some juice and then......
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No, you are right too. SHO's were 6 cyl's as well...
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What exactly is the point of doing this if it only give like 2 hp? Does it some how improve instantanious acceleration or something??
Sorry about the stupid question, but I am cuirous. |
Why the hell are we arguing over SHO's?
They suck. |
Originally Posted by Tranquil
Why the hell are we arguing over SHO's?
They suck. |
Originally Posted by evil_motors
there is no 3.8 taurus in 96... so it was from a 3.0 and he has it installed so obviously it works. there were only 2 engines in 96 the 3.0 and the V8 3.4
Jay 1984 FB |
GAH, NO TALKING ABOUT SHO'S HERE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE.
i drive one every day. it spanks 7's (except 3rd gens and directfreak's car) and can carry 3 friend with a trunk full of crap. yep, that SHO engine that has the capability to rev over 8k and make 400lb-ft on stock internals, and has no real reliability problems really is crap. i'm disappointed in you guys, being a club that drives cars with wrongfully assigned history for bad reliability, i figured you'd be sympathetic to the SHO, the piston equivalent. edit: and i'm talking about the v6's, the 8's are just as awesome, AFTER welding the cams, that was a glaring problem they had, and a law suit has been filed against ford (no seriously) involving everyone owning a 3rd gen SHO. |
Originally Posted by evil_motors
there is no 3.8 taurus in 96... so it was from a 3.0 and he has it installed so obviously it works. there were only 2 engines in 96 the 3.0 and the V8 3.4
I mean you can grab a 3.8 fan out of an older one and there are lot more of the older ones in the junkyard then 96s. |
I would like an answer to my question I know it is dumb but I realy want to know if it is worth doing.
Thanks ( its on the 2nd page verry bottom) |
Originally Posted by no_name
What exactly is the point of doing this if it only give like 2 hp? Does it some how improve instantanious acceleration or something??
Sorry about the stupid question, but I am cuirous. |
Originally Posted by no_name
I would like an answer to my question I know it is dumb but I realy want to know if it is worth doing.
Thanks ( its on the 2nd page verry bottom) I think I'll hook up the low speed to a 180* thermostat switch and the high setting to my AC on switch. I seriously doubt I'll have any cooling issues with the fans high setting. It pushes some serious air. |
nice install.. very clean engine bay too. you spent alot of time to get it to look like that!!!
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Originally Posted by aussiesmg
For racing every HP counts, and the speed of the car helps cool the coolant, but for street with stop start driving the clutch fan works better so keep it. IMHO.
True that. In my personal experience, to those who are "rev happy" on the street, upgrding to E-fan will extend the life of your water pump. Also, with the E-Fan, you can drag your car without the alternator/water pump belt. |
I did it to get a more efficient cooling system. Didn't notice any accel differences. Faster warmups and more controllable operating range. It's hooked into my ECU.
I am using the high setting on my taurus fan with a s4 alt. 60amps, I think. 30amp relay. No problems so far, I'll have to check and see if it's getting hot... |
Intresting... and thanks. I might do this mod in the summer.
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Gotta bump this up to ask... Is there a way to mount a temperature switch to this? I don't want to have to flip it on manually.
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i know HKS makes a fan controller for electric fans. pretty fancy unit that tells your all sorts of info and can control your fan speed by programmed temps or manually, but its like $180. there are cheaper alternatives but i cant find one right now...
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Theres universal ones like this:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/UNIVERSAL-ELECTRO...QQcmdZViewItem where you just stick a probe into one of the fins in the rad. Or, a cheaper alternative, but more work: http://cgi.ebay.ca/Porsche-944-924-9...QQcmdZViewItem |
Very cool darkfrost, thanks!
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I just looked through my VB catalog... They have a switch for e-fans as well, I think it's about $25.
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i'm using one from advanced auto to trigger a relay, it was 19.99 i think
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Sorry for reviving a dead thread but I wanted to get a clear answer in the same thread that raised the question. Due to the nice fitment I wanted to source a brand new '96 Taurus electric fan (it's not worth trusting a junkyard fan, IMHO). My supplier says there are two engine configs in '96 but they are both the same part number. Okay, that's good, but he tells me there are two fan assemblies listed for each...driver's side and passenger side. I need to know which is the right one before I place the order and the supplier can only tell me what is on his computer screen (nothing). Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
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Those jellybean taurus fans might draw crazy current, but the earlier body style had the 3.0 and 3.8 that folks have mentioned. An early-style 3.8 fan works great, is 2-speed, and runs with less current draw.
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