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gamble302 12-26-02 04:39 PM


Originally posted by CHEF_EG_1

I REPEAT.... YOU DO NOT HAVE CYLINDERS.

hes a got a master cylinder and lock cylinders :D

84rx-7man 12-26-02 08:50 PM

Oh yeah sorry about that well then is it called just a 12a 4 ? lol im clueless man and yeah i read a little bit

MIKE-P-28 12-26-02 08:59 PM

Rotary does exhibit all 4 cycles of the otto cycle :) LOL

851stgen12a 12-26-02 09:19 PM

the 12a and 13b are 2 rotor motors. consists of 2 little triangels spinning inside a oval shaped rotor housing. very efficient design.
One tip, almost everyhting you know about Piss-ton engins... throw it out the window. the rotary motor os alot more simple to work on than piss-ton motors. If you go at the rotary thinking in piss-ton terms it will never make sense.
good luck, lear what you can..
check out the link that someone posted earlier.

bcty 12-26-02 09:30 PM

just 12a

gamble302 12-26-02 09:49 PM

bwahahahah
yes, throw everything you know about pissed on motors out the window
hahahahahahahah
stupidest thing ever said
well its way up there anyways, its between that comment you just made and when my buddy tried to tell me that k'new was ebtter than legos. i mean common, you cant beat legos

im tired of this piston hating bullshit.
pistons are not evil, they are not worse than wankels. its all a matter or preference. gas/electric hybrids are great too. there are other motors out there besides the rotary. stop the hating
where would we be without your hot rodding ancestors? did the model t have a wankel? shit no! without that car you would be happily talkin about modding your horseshoes and puttin scoops on your saddle. do you think the semi that carried your rx-7 to the dealer had a rotary? did the ship that took it accross the pond have a wankel? what about the school busses that take kids to school? the world does not revolve around the rotary engine
yes very cool engine and design, but its not the only one. i wish people would take their my dog can eat your dog attitude and shove up their..... noses

yes some people dont like piston motors in rx-7's, but some people also dont like wheels bigger than 15's on em, but you dont see those guys going ape shit. or the guys that prefer carbs/efi or turbo/na.

i think if one motor could ever start a civil war between car lovers this would be the one. we are CAR enthusiasts here. so realize that cars didnt always have little triangles and jsut because they dont have them bah i give up
i have a dreaaaammmmm.
(thats what i feel like here)
ok enough ranting for now

happy holidays

gamble

84rx-7man 12-26-02 11:11 PM

scratch that
 
Never mind scratch that question im dumb i know it goes by the make lol

mar3 12-26-02 11:37 PM

Pistons are great as long as they're in at least a 4.15" piston bore in a V-8 configuration or have the name Ferrari on the valve covers, but they are not great in a Rotary eXperimental/Export 7...that is the problem with pistons in this "Rotary Community" as it so proudly states on the homepage.... ;) :cool:

gamble302 12-26-02 11:41 PM

yes yes, but that doesnt mean that pistons should get flamed so hard core. you know what i mean?

hehe yeah if i ever find a wrecked e250 with a triton v10 at the junk yard that baby is going straight into an fb ;)

pratch 12-26-02 11:58 PM

Pistons should get flamed when the car exists because of the rotary. If you don't give two shits about the rotary engine in your 7, sell it and go buy a Z.

Seriously it isn't that hard to understand.

Piston motors are fine, but in a rotary? C'mon now don't be foolish. That's like buying a Mac and putting a pentium in it, or getting filet mignon well-done, or buying a beautiful in-ground pool then filling it up and replacing it with an equal sized (or larger) above ground pool. Some things just aren't done, and putting a piston engine in a rotary powered vehicle is one of them...

gamble302 12-27-02 12:09 AM

yet you would have no problem with a 20b powered ae86 or similar small import? or rotary midgets

a project is a project. if someone decides they want to throw a turbo 4 from a turbo coupe or a 350 from a chevy into an fb, its a project. same as swappin piston cars to rotarys.

would you flame me if i said i want to put a street port 12a into an opel gt? i bet not

i see a future where all motors are treated equally :-p

now if youll excuse me, im going to continue drooling at the thought of a filet mignon. mmmmmmmm baaaaaccccccooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnn

gamble

mar3 12-27-02 12:13 AM

Guys that want to put a rotary into something else I would direct to the general rotary corner of this Forum...I would tell them they are posting in the wrong place, this corner is for 1stgen rotary tech...and for Manntis to ply his wares...:p:

gamble302 12-27-02 12:16 AM


Originally posted by mar3
Guys that want to put a rotary into something else I would direct to the general rotary corner of this Forum...I would tell them they are posting in the wrong place, this corner is for 1stgen rotary tech...and for Manntis to ply his wares...:p:
ok yes, but its still the same idea of putting the wrong motor in a car
lol at the wares comment

and whats the deal? why doesnt this one have 5 stars?
hahahaha

who keeps rating all the threads anyways (shakes head)

mar3 12-27-02 12:19 AM

I'm betting the guy that starts the thread...he lets it go for a couple of posts, then comes back to see the response..."This is the best damn thread I've ever seen!!!" and then he rates his post..lol..;)

Cloud 12-27-02 12:45 AM


Originally posted by pratch
Pistons should get flamed when the car exists because of the rotary. If you don't give two shits about the rotary engine in your 7, sell it and go buy a Z.

Seriously it isn't that hard to understand.

Piston motors are fine, but in a rotary? C'mon now don't be foolish. That's like buying a Mac and putting a pentium in it, or getting filet mignon well-done, or buying a beautiful in-ground pool then filling it up and replacing it with an equal sized (or larger) above ground pool. Some things just aren't done, and putting a piston engine in a rotary powered vehicle is one of them...

So, if it doesn't fit your tastes, it doesn't belong?

Methinks someone didn't watch enough Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers as a child...

nimrodTT 12-27-02 01:21 AM


Originally posted by Cloud


So, if it doesn't fit your tastes, it doesn't belong?

Methinks someone didn't watch enough Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers as a child...

I think he means "I reserve the right to hate whatever I think is stupid" and I gotta agree with a statement like that.

Cloud 12-27-02 01:25 AM


Originally posted by nimrodTT


I think he means "I reserve the right to hate whatever I think is stupid" and I gotta agree with a statement like that.

Hmm, your Grand Master tell you that?

mar3 12-27-02 01:29 AM

Oh, man, here we go down the dark path once again....this is a rotary community....there's a site all its own little bad self...www.v8rx7.com/ for the heathens, it doesn't need to be here in 1stgen rotary tech...simple as that...;)

Cloud 12-27-02 01:35 AM

Don't worry, I wouldn't ask any of you for motor advice on a 302, I wouldn't want you to have to bother with it (or thumb through pages of name calling and closed-minded BS). This forum is fun for suspension, brake, and exterior upkeeping and mods though...


I think I'll stay.


Hi.


:p:

mar3 12-27-02 01:40 AM

And how about 680 rwhp from a turbo'd 12A?? No V6/V8 weight penalty and all the fun of riding on a grenade....:p:

Cloud 12-27-02 01:54 AM

Weight Penalty? I love hearing this from rotary guys. Especially ones with stereo's, AC's, power accessories, etc. If my car doesn't weigh under 2500 with myself sitting behind that ugly old V8, I'll shoot it Elvis style (pretend like it's a Pantera and it won't start!).

I might have fun turbo-ing a rotary if I had money to throw around, but...I don't. Guess I should put up my sig here?

Don't get me wrong - I GREATLY respect fast rotary-powered cars. They just aren't in my budget, or expertise....yet. Of course, I also respect extremely powerful B16's, B18's, H22's, SR20DET's, KA24DE's, 3SGTE's, and even those pesky little 2JZGTE's...in fact, you find me a single one of those combo's that easily bolts into my cute lil 85 GSL and gives me the ability to run tens (reliably), car included, for a grand total of under 3 grand, and I'll jump at the chance. Til then, though...it's 30 year old Windsor power for this particular project.

nimrodTT 12-27-02 03:06 AM

Putting a V8 in your 7? Good for you; but don't tell me I gotta like it, or even respect it. Those are my decisions to make, not yours.

CHEF_EG_1 12-27-02 03:37 AM

Re: scratch that
 

Originally posted by 84rx-7man
Never mind scratch that question im dumb i know it goes by the make lol

http://www.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine.htm

Rotor13B 12-27-02 05:17 AM

ROFL, How did I miss this thread...lol

pratch 12-27-02 09:01 AM


Originally posted by Cloud


So, if it doesn't fit your tastes, it doesn't belong?

Methinks someone didn't watch enough Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers as a child...

Not at all - there are just certain things which are stupid, and certain things which aren't.

Taking all of the cheesecake out of a blueberry cheesecake and replacing it with chocolate may taste fine, but it's a stupid thing to do.

Taking the female parts out of your wife/girlfriend/significant other and replacing them with male... well, it might suit your tastes better, but damn if I won't shake my head and mutter "damn that's just wrong".

And so the same reaction comes from me whenever someone mentions Rx-7 and piston in the same thought. If I enjoyed a flat 6 in my rotary... er Rx-7, I'd be posting on the www.ruintherx7.com forum. :D

So sure, feel free to do whatever you want to your 7, but don't post in a rotary forum about how you just blew your head gasket, your valvetrain is being bitchy, or that you decided to get a sex change and are looking for a man now. :D


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