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rotorholic 09-28-08 02:43 AM

82 RX7 Stock Turbo 11s e.t.?
 
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I was looking thru craigslist one day and found a 82 rx7 for $300 , decided to take the nearly 4hr drive to san antonio to go pick it up, car had been sitting out in the country for over 5 years, In the state of TX cars over 25yrs old dont need a smog check to renew your tags only a brake and light inspection, My build up begins with turbo 2 side housings, I ported only the center housing to match the outers. I used a set of 91 rotor housings from a n/a motor and installed exhaust sleeves from a turbo model, Im using 85 gsl-se rotors/internals, I am going to need the higher compression to spool up quicker and hopefully gain a few extra horses, I will be using is a stock series 5 turbocharger and exhaust manifold, transmission will be factory one that came with the 12a engine, I already changed the rearend with a 85 model (bigger axles), I will be using a front mount intercooler (bar to plate core) with 2.5 piping and 3inch exhaust, For fuel I will use a msd fuel pump with a mallory regulator and gsl-se injectors, To control all this I will use a microtech LT4 fuel only computer with the old school dizzy, I will keep you guys updated with my progress, pics and videos when I finally hit the track, hopefully I can get the car completed in 4 weeks......:) I want run low 12s maybe high 11s (on pump gas) in full street trim besides bolting on a set of slicks, What do you guys think, Can this be done?

bad 83 09-28-08 09:09 AM

Cool deal. Glad to see another 12A turbo being built.

bstrange99 09-28-08 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by bad 83 (Post 8591746)
Cool deal. Glad to see another 12A turbo being built.

'91 housings, gsl-se rotors....All the clues are in the story. I'm thinking 13b.
Good luck getting into 11's. Slicks should help, but not a whole lot more I can think of for traction.

djessence 09-28-08 02:32 PM

the only 12A thing is transmission it sounds like.

should be a good build. Splitting up massive paragraphs helps people read it easier.

rotorholic 09-28-08 05:02 PM

its a 13B
 

Originally Posted by bad 83 (Post 8591746)
Cool deal. Glad to see another 12A turbo being built.

It will be a 13B engine....

bad 83 09-28-08 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by rotorholic (Post 8592616)
It will be a 13B engine....


Up late, tottaly looked over that. Good luck with the build :D

trochoid 09-28-08 07:01 PM

Sounds good so far but I would have used S5 rotors and e-shaft instead of the S3 set.

FirebirdSlayer666 09-28-08 07:22 PM

^^Ditto, especially if higher compression was in mind. It'll be quick but I don't expect it to be low 12's quick, seeing as how it's basically a stock 13B turbo. Slicks on an S3 rear end and a 12A tranny will end very badly. Use a Turbo II trans, it's really just a better option. I'd skip the slicks or launch light cause you'll either twist the axles or send the LSD thru the case

OneRotor 09-28-08 07:36 PM

also, high compression doesn't help spool, and it tends to hurt power when you start to get into higher boost pressure. Some of the components of how fast a turbo spools are:
weight of the impeller assembly (both the hot and cold side, plus the shat)
Ball Bearing vs. non ball bearing
A/R
pressure differential between the engine side and downpipe side of the hot side of the turbo
restrictiveness of the intercooler setup

By running high comp rotors what you're doing is making more n/a power before the turbo spools, not changing the speed in which the turbo spools. Turbos run off of waste energy that would otherwise go out the exhaust system. Also, by running high comp. rotors, you're limiting the amount of boost you can run in your motor. There was a writeup in Sport Compact Car about why you don't want to run high comp in a turbo motor, and all of the reasons why. I'll see if I can find it.

Anyway, car sounds like it's going to be a beast. To pull off an 11 second quarter, you're going to have cut a pretty good 60' time, and you may grenade your rear end. Best of luck in your endeavours, and make sure to let us know how your first few trips to the track turn out.

680RWHP12A 09-28-08 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by trochoid (Post 8592859)
Sounds good so far but I would have used S5 rotors and e-shaft instead of the S3 set.

+1

elwood 09-28-08 10:31 PM

You mention a bar & plate intercooler, but the one in the picture is a tube & fin. They both have their relative benefits, so I wouldn't rush and change anything.

rotorholic 09-29-08 12:13 AM

tube & fin
 

Originally Posted by elwood (Post 8593417)
You mention a bar & plate intercooler, but the one in the picture is a tube & fin. They both have their relative benefits, so I wouldn't rush and change anything.

My bad, It was late when I created this thread....

Starfox07 09-29-08 08:40 AM

Would a stock T2 (S5) engine in a first gen run 12's? (With things like exhaust and ignition, but stock boost and porting)

teddyrx2 09-29-08 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by trochoid (Post 8592859)
Sounds good so far but I would have used S5 rotors and e-shaft instead of the S3 set.

+1

teddyrx2 09-29-08 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Starfox07 (Post 8594141)
Would a stock T2 (S5) engine in a first gen run 12's? (With things like exhaust and ignition, but stock boost and porting)

your setup is fine...you just have to know what your doing to get into the 11's...Although the gsl-se rotors are a good set up the s5 91's would have been better..but don't trip stay with what you got...get some gears. a rear end. good fuel pump. blah blah blah...you will hit the 11's with ease

rotorholic 10-17-08 01:00 AM

OK, motor is in the car....will start in intercooler piping and exhaust system tomorrow, I will post pics soon

rotorholic 10-17-08 08:24 PM

Engine is installed......
 
Worked on the car a few hours today, made the holes on the radiator support for intercooler pipes and also started doing the pipes, Im going to work on the car this weekend well see how far I get.......:crzyeye:

rotorholic 10-17-08 08:26 PM

Pics
 
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here are the pics

mazda1200 10-18-08 01:57 AM

nice pictures is that a tial blow off valve...

rotorholic 10-19-08 04:27 PM

downpipe...
 
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Built the downpipe today and also welded the race muffler......

Dan_s_young 10-19-08 04:54 PM

What muffler is that your running? Looks like a good build and a short deadline i'm deffinately excited to see how it turns out for you.

The thing that always confuses me is why people are always using the s5 rotors, for higher boost setups. Sure they are lighter, and you will get some more power, but if your running higher boost, a lower compression ratio means you can feed more air and fuel through the engine making more power.

datsun1200 10-19-08 05:17 PM

Man i like where your going with this,i think the car might be in the 11.85 or 11.95.It will be faster then a 12.00,but good look with the car.

Rotor_king 10-19-08 07:12 PM

Damn, that is going to be LOUD!!! i wanna hear it!

rotorholic 10-19-08 07:25 PM

Muffler shown with downpipe is my first muffler made by magnaflow, Im running 3 inch piping all the way back, I will have a magnaflow round muffler outback......

Dan_s_young 10-19-08 08:48 PM

Any chance you have a part number for the muffler? I'm looking for similar magnaflow mufflers for my setup as well. Thanks

rotorholic 10-19-08 10:43 PM

Dynomax 17296 Ultra Flow Muffler In/Out: 3"

rotorholic 10-19-08 10:45 PM

race bullet muffler is also made my Dynomax #24222

rotorholic 02-05-09 05:43 PM

Change of plans but running......
 
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Well I decided to to replace the stock turbo for a Garrett GT67, I will also be using e85 instead of gas, Got her running about a month ago and should be on the dyno soon.....:icon_tup:

rotorholic 02-05-09 06:08 PM

Video of car running
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzOJldr25_I

Lynch 02-05-09 08:00 PM

What boost controller are you using?

datsun1200 02-05-09 08:17 PM

I have a quetion how much will a setup like that cost.I have a 84 gsl and put on a gsl-se suspension on it,i like where your going with this.thank's if you replay..

lx_machado 02-05-09 08:20 PM

looking good! cant wait till you take it to the track.

rotorholic 02-05-09 09:48 PM

Im using a greedy manual boost controller, Cost? thats a trick question, I did all the work myself from engine building to exhaust and so on, I should be playing at the track in a couple of weeks...

mannyvidal 02-05-09 09:58 PM

this car should be in the low 11s high 10s no problem , lets see how it all works out KEEP US INFORMED JOSE

ultimatejay 02-05-09 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by mannyvidal (Post 8943224)
this car should be in the low 11s high 10s no problem , lets see how it all works out KEEP US INFORMED JOSE

I aggree with Manny, I'm running low 12's in an my all motor 12a, so this car should have no problems getting into the 11's. The only thing that you may have problems with is the stock rearend. If you use slicks, kiss the axles/ring and pinion goodbye. Looks really good. :icon_tup:

rotorholic 02-05-09 10:13 PM

Thanks guys, hope rearend holds up a couple runs....

PercentSevenC 02-05-09 10:55 PM

Very nice. What are the dimensions of that intercooler?

mazda1200 02-05-09 11:01 PM

with that turbo you should have no problem running 14's .

Siraniko 02-06-09 12:23 AM

wanna line up with this one?
http://sevenstock.org/Photos/Sevenst...S_DSC_0521.JPG
http://sevenstock.org/Photos/Sevenst...S_DSC_0520.JPG

rotorholic 02-06-09 12:31 AM

The new rotorholic
 
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NO But maybe with this one once its done.....
http://www.mazdadragracing.com/P5_rolling.JPG

mannyvidal 02-06-09 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by rotorholic (Post 8943620)
NO But maybe with this one once its done.....
http://www.mazdadragracing.com/P5_rolling.JPG

its about time you got back on track , i ma be in orlando next week on a t & t session and also shooting the shit with tito so ima check the wagon out :icon_tup::icon_tup:so where is the old r100 these days ? i remember the r100 shooting to the left the couple of times that i got to see it , great looking car :icon_tup::icon_tup::icon_tup:

some of the guys around here dont know jose but i know that he can put some shit 2guether i have no doubt this rx7 will get some good numbers

rotorholic 02-06-09 11:32 PM

Thanks manny, Just been trying to get my money right, its a little hard these days but things are looking better now, car is basiclly the same besides being a little more rusty, tito is a busy man with a few cars before he gets to mine. Old r100 was sold as a roller years ago to some guys in chicago and my old power plant is in marios full chassie r100 back in CA, I seen videos of the car, he doesnt seem to have the same power when I had it in my car or maybe the boost is still set low....

mannyvidal 02-07-09 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by rotorholic (Post 8946384)
Thanks manny, Just been trying to get my money right, its a little hard these days but things are looking better now, car is basiclly the same besides being a little more rusty, tito is a busy man with a few cars before he gets to mine. Old r100 was sold as a roller years ago to some guys in chicago and my old power plant is in marios full chassie r100 back in CA, I seen videos of the car, he doesnt seem to have the same power when I had it in my car or maybe the boost is still set low....

i hear that mang after the new house and all my honey doo list i had no time or cashflow to play with the car , i think the last time i was out was when u saw it at pomona :icon_tdow but its time to start pissing people of again and iam really good at that , ima be renting out a couple of tracks this year and i hope some of our west coat rotor heads show up or at least bench race since thats what they do the most :lol: also get a couple of grudge match races goin on just to bring some revenew for the pay out and the next races you know , give back to the racers like they use to do , i dont wana have any pro teams or factory backed up guys at all , keep it grass roots :icon_tup:

ultimatejay 02-07-09 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by mannyvidal (Post 8947858)
i hear that mang after the new house and all my honey doo list i had no time or cashflow to play with the car , i think the last time i was out was when u saw it at pomona :icon_tdow but its time to start pissing people of again and iam really good at that , ima be renting out a couple of tracks this year and i hope some of our west coat rotor heads show up or at least bench race since thats what they do the most :lol: also get a couple of grudge match races goin on just to bring some revenew for the pay out and the next races you know , give back to the racers like they use to do , i dont wana have any pro teams or factory backed up guys at all , keep it grass roots :icon_tup:

Manny, you know I'll be there!!!!!!!

rotorholic, what are the plans for the wagon as far as finished project ET?

rotorholic 02-07-09 08:18 PM

plans....
 
rotorholic, what are the plans for the wagon as far as finished project ET?[/QUOTE]

I see no reason why the car shouldnt run mid 7s after a few outings, that ofcoarse is not the end :)

HAI-TEK7 02-07-09 10:01 PM

Loving those slick on stockies

mannyvidal 02-07-09 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by rotorholic (Post 8948262)
rotorholic, what are the plans for the wagon as far as finished project ET?

I see no reason why the car shouldnt run mid 7s after a few outings, that ofcoarse is not the end :)[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol: hell yeah i dont see why it should not do it , best of luck with that beast , so whats up with the 7

mannyvidal 02-07-09 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 8948209)
Manny, you know I'll be there!!!!!!!

rotorholic, what are the plans for the wagon as far as finished project ET?

:icon_no2: no u wont u fruit :lol::lol::lol:

rotorholic 02-07-09 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by mannyvidal (Post 8948446)
I see no reason why the car shouldnt run mid 7s after a few outings, that ofcoarse is not the end :)

:lol::lol::lol: hell yeah i dont see why it should not do it , best of luck with that beast , so whats up with the 7[/QUOTE]

Gotta make it to ari's to dyno it, good to have him 15 mins away from me :) I will post up some videos after....

mannyvidal 02-07-09 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by rotorholic (Post 8948511)
:lol::lol::lol: hell yeah i dont see why it should not do it , best of luck with that beast , so whats up with the 7

Gotta make it to ari's to dyno it, good to have him 15 mins away from me :) I will post up some videos after....[/QUOTE]

cool , :icon_tup::icon_tup:


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