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sa224life 07-20-08 07:36 AM

6 port or 4
 
ok i might come of as bit of a dumb ass but its me first rx and there is only one way to learn. i have an 1983 s2 12a and i want to go turbo iv found a dude whith a factory turbo set up but it is for a six port 12a. how do i know if i have a 6 port or 4 port cheers.

Slammed_GSL 07-20-08 11:10 AM

First off, Stock 12a motors are 4 port.(USDM)
Second, Stock 13b turbo RX-7's are 4 port.
Third, NA 2nd Gen 13b S4/S5 RX-7's are 6port
So the 12a 6port you speak of is something I have not heard of, not impossible, just not heard of in my short time in the Rotor scene.
I would stay away from it just because is sounds alittle wonky.

Pic's of this setup would be very nice, both sides of the motor so we can see the rotor housing stamp and the intake side so we can see the LIM/UIM and turbo manifold.

Cheers

Rogue_Wulff 07-20-08 11:20 AM

Later 12AT engines were 6P. As far as I am aware, only the 12AT was offered with the 6P option, as far as 12A's go.

Siraniko 07-20-08 11:34 AM

I had a 12-A 6port. It was not turbo.

PercentSevenC 07-20-08 11:44 AM

I thought 12ATs were 4-port, and that 6-port 12As were a European thing. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Jeff20B 07-20-08 11:47 AM

Rogue_Wulff, are you totally sure? Any pictures to back this up? Any info? Thanks.

j9fd3s 07-20-08 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue_Wulff (Post 8393370)
Later 12AT engines were 6P. As far as I am aware, only the 12AT was offered with the 6P option, as far as 12A's go.

pics or it didnt happen!

the 84-85 rx7s in japan were available with a 6 port NON turbo 12a, or the 4 port turbo 12a.

europe got basically the 79-80 us motor but with bigger exhaust ports, +10hp


http://www.re4life.com/Brochures/1984_RX7_TURBO_JP.htm

Rogue_Wulff 07-20-08 01:03 PM

I thought the cosmo or luce had a 6P 12AT? Seeing as I ain't in Japan, I haven't laid eyes on any 6P 12A's. I've heard they exist, and was under the impression they were turbo and FI.
I don't know if the 6P 12A was offered in non turbo or turbo. Like I said, it was only going from what I have seen printed elsewehere. Since it has been a while, I could easily be mistaken.
All I know for sure, is we got the 4P 12A, while other parts of the world got the higher HP versions.

j9fd3s 07-20-08 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue_Wulff (Post 8393572)
I thought the cosmo or luce had a 6P 12AT? Seeing as I ain't in Japan, I haven't laid eyes on any 6P 12A's. I've heard they exist, and was under the impression they were turbo and FI.
I don't know if the 6P 12A was offered in non turbo or turbo. Like I said, it was only going from what I have seen printed elsewehere. Since it has been a while, I could easily be mistaken.
All I know for sure, is we got the 4P 12A, while other parts of the world got the higher HP versions.

6 port 12a is carburated. ive owned one, and tried to get parts for it.

turbo is 4 port and efi.

euro 12a has larger exhaust ports, those housings were all the rage in the early 90's +10hp

Slammed_GSL 07-20-08 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Slammed_GSL (Post 8393355)
First off, Stock 12a motors are 4 port.(USDM)
Pic's of this setup would be very nice, both sides of the motor so we can see the rotor housing stamp and the intake side so we can see the LIM/UIM and turbo manifold.

Cheers


Like I said, USDM was 4 port only, other markets are a mystery.

Siraniko 07-20-08 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 8393591)
6
turbo is 4 port and efi.

Most of the ones I've seen are carbs not EFI :scratch: :scratch:

Rogue_Wulff 07-20-08 04:34 PM

I've heard that 12AT were both carbed or FI, depending on model. I have seen pics of a carbed many times, but cannot recall ever seeing any 12AT with FI factory. Just because pics aren't available, doesn't mean they they don't exist, though.
Like I said, I thought the cosmo/luce 12at was rumored to be FI and possibly 6P. I know the carbed 12at was a 4P design, at least every one of them I have seen pics of were.....
It doesn't really matter, I'd love to have any variety of a factory 12AT, in good shape.

PercentSevenC 07-20-08 04:41 PM

Are you sure the ones you've seen were carbed? The EFI throttle body looks similar to a carb.

Rogue_Wulff 07-20-08 04:47 PM

Well, not 100% sure, but a couple of the pics I saw were on the rotaryshack website, and the description said carbed.......

Siraniko 07-20-08 06:21 PM

My buddy had a carb 12-AT in his R100 before he went with factory 12-A PPort.

FirebirdSlayer666 07-20-08 06:46 PM

I've seen the 6 port 12A's and they are carbed with a black air cleaner assmebly that states "Six Port" on it. The 12A Turbo's from the factory are EFI with an Orange charge pipe, orange plug wires, and orange fan. I don't know whether or not they are 4 or 6 port, but I would imagine 4 port

Jeff20B 07-20-08 07:25 PM

The 12A turbo has a throttle body that looks like a carb.


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