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confederate_rx7 08-16-01 08:00 PM

13b Rew in a first gen
 
OK someone answer the question that has been boggleing my mind... a j-spec tt 13b rew in a first gen is it possable? I currently own 2 1st gens and am thinking about doing one since there so light... but I havent seen one around or and have never heard one talked about.... I have heard about the 6 ports being throughn in the 1st gens and I have a 4 port in mine.... any ideas??? Hell I piss on civics now with my na car... time to play with heavy boost if possable :dragster:

Mykl 08-16-01 08:03 PM

Anything is possible with enough money and know-how.

I think there's an Aussie running around here somewhere who has an REW powered first gen.

SuperchargedRex 08-16-01 08:22 PM

I've seen that setup while I was at Rampage Racing during their dyno day last winter. Very cool.

BadAssRX-7 08-16-01 10:55 PM

well my NOPI buddie goes to all the big show(to promote nopi) and when he was @ rx7.com (r.p.) he saw a 1st gen i think it was a 85 and it went 3,2,1...rew,t2 tranny,se rearend

UniqueTII 08-17-01 02:00 AM

T&R has a 1st gen with a 3rd gen transplant. Check out their site at www.rx7s.com I think it's Romeo's car. It runs 10s last I heard.

Felix Wankel 08-17-01 02:03 AM

Don't the FD engines have a front cover mount kinda like the FB's do?

It'd be cool to have a 13B-REW (with a fatty single turbo, of course) in my RX2 :)

Felix Wankel 08-17-01 02:54 AM


Originally posted by Felix Wankel
Don't the FD engines have a front cover mount kinda like the FB's do?

It'd be cool to have a 13B-REW (with a fatty single turbo, of course) in my RX2 :)

Never mind. I was way off on that one :(

12 sec fd 08-17-01 03:00 AM

Re: 13b Rew in a first gen
 

Originally posted by confederate_rx7
Hell I piss on civics now with my na car... time to play with heavy boost if possable :dragster:
oh really...what kind of times are you hitting in your dragster and what kind of civics have you run..?

Richard Miller 08-17-01 03:06 AM

this is my impression.

the REW uses 2 oil metering lines if I am understanding this. Assuming that this is factual one in theory could mount a 12a front cover on a REW while using the standard 12A to 13B swap. I am unsure about the turbos and personaly I would think about puting a 89-91 turbo 2 exhaust manifold and turbo to keep the complexitys and cost down.

confederate_rx7 08-17-01 06:13 AM

Re: Re: 13b Rew in a first gen
 

Originally posted by 12 sec fd


oh really...what kind of times are you hitting in your dragster and what kind of civics have you run..?

I am running a 79 rx-7 with street ported 13b, holley intake, holley 550 carb, fuel pump, oversized ratiator, water pump, double pully set up, electronic ignition, race beat air filter, p205 60 13 bfg comp ta's oh yah and a oversized piss on hondas sticker.... I guess if I was running a honda it would give me 50+ hp but oh well... its not the fastest thing on the road but if I can put a rew in a 1st gen... keep it a sleeper... Xnay on the Hondoo A big time!!! After looking at the site I think that it will fit but wireing the damn thing I am going to go out of my mind!!! But I got to get some more $$$ first :bootyshak :bash:

AJC13B 08-17-01 06:14 AM

I have a 13B JC Cosmo engine in my 85 first gen.

I have a Garrett turbo, T72 front with Q equivalant rear blade with 1.22 divided rear housing.

I am running a HITman tuned E6K.

Timing cover is a 12A turbo one I believe and I do not have the oil injection connected so I run premix.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~manchild/bay-6.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~manchild/turbo-3.jpg

or more go see www.ajc13b.com

12 sec fd 08-17-01 11:48 PM

Re: Re: Re: 13b Rew in a first gen
 

Originally posted by confederate_rx7


I guess if I was running a honda it would give me 50+ hp but oh well... its not the fastest thing on the road but if I can put a rew in a 1st gen

all i've got to say is that you can't classify ALL hondas in one category that alot of you people call "rice" cars...there are alot of idiots with nonsense stickers and oversized wings but then again there are alot of idiots that chastize these cars and don't know shit about the game themselves...here in so. california there are more than a handfull of low 13 sec naturally aspirated hondas around so don't be too sure you'd be able to "piss" all over them because i'm pretty sure even with a 15 foot long type-r sticker any given honda down here'll give you a run for your money...not to knock on your car though..sounds like you have a lot of time, effort, and pride in it...it just pisses me off when someone comes on this forum posting like ALL hondas aren't shit and that they could beat any one..kinda sounds to me like bullshit thats kinda hard to believe...

Mykl 08-18-01 12:55 AM


Originally posted by AJC13B
I have a 13B JC Cosmo engine in my 85 first gen.

I have a Garrett turbo, T72 front with Q equivalant rear blade with 1.22 divided rear housing.

I am running a HITman tuned E6K.

Timing cover is a 12A turbo one I believe and I do not have the oil injection connected so I run premix.

or more go see www.ajc13b.com

There he is. :) I couldn't remember your name. :(

Why don't you run an '86-'88 mechanical OMP?

RedRacinTII 08-18-01 01:07 AM

12 sec fd, do you own a honda?It sure sounds like you do.Oh, and btw, I live in cali too, and there are quite a few shitty Hondas running around.Yeah, there are a few fast ones, but for the most part they have nothing.I can't tell you how many Hondas I see every day with stupid body kits and no engine mods.So, IMO, for the most part, Hondas are ricers.

Felix Wankel 08-18-01 01:30 AM


Originally posted by Richard Miller
this is my impression.

the REW uses 2 oil metering lines if I am understanding this. Assuming that this is factual one in theory could mount a 12a front cover on a REW while using the standard 12A to 13B swap. I am unsure about the turbos and personaly I would think about puting a 89-91 turbo 2 exhaust manifold and turbo to keep the complexitys and cost down.

I was planning on premixing, and having a big single, so all I really need to know is if the 12A cover fits the -REW. Judging by AJC13B's car, it does :D

speckamp 08-18-01 02:43 AM

why not just drop in a TII, and put a big single on it? What's the advantage to the -REW that the B-T doesn't have? There's someone on here w/ a 1st gen with a 13B-T running 270rwHP. With the availability of j-spec TII motors, why not use those?

Maybe I'm missing something, but if yer gonna run a single turbo, why not go the tried-and-tested route? If you want the 3rd gen twins, well, that's different.

--matt

12 sec fd 08-18-01 04:58 AM


Originally posted by RedRacinTII
12 sec fd, do you own a honda?It sure sounds like you do.Oh, and btw, I live in cali too, and there are quite a few shitty Hondas running around.Yeah, there are a few fast ones, but for the most part they have nothing.I can't tell you how many Hondas I see every day with stupid body kits and no engine mods.So, IMO, for the most part, Hondas are ricers.
yes i own a honda and oh, btw, i own an fd too..notice my sn 12 sec fd...mid 12's with street tires and stock exhaust...hmmm...i was gonna ask you what kind of car do YOU drive..? if say i did own a honda so what..? is that a bad thing huh smart guy...? the common stereotype on this forum is that all hondas are slow and that people that own them don't know shit about motors but to tell you the truth i started on hondas, i still build honda motors to this day, and either way if you wanna list your car's specs or make up the best ones you can i can get a honda to run you that'll blow the doors off of your car...honestly partner, your part in saying for the most part hondas are ricers just shows your total ignorance about the import racing game as a whole...lol..yes i DO own a honda...a type-r as a beater car...so WHAT..? hey, for a car that wasn't designed with speed performance in mind you can't argue that they hold their own if built the right way buddy...how do you single out hondas as ricers when i've seen models of all makes looking fucked up just as bad as any lame ass moron lookin stupid in a fucked up looking honda...i've seen alot of mazdas that look fucked up so you must be driving a ricer car too...don't knock the company just because the cars end up in alot of dumbasses hands partner...so wassup...? show us some specs of your car and we'll see just who's driving a "rice" mobile...

12 sec fd 08-18-01 05:04 AM

oh hehe...i guess you own a t2 huh...so how do you feel when all the people you call "ricers" laugh at you for trying to race a close to 10 year old car??? or better yet how would you feel if everyone with an FD laughed at you and looked down on you cuz you're driving an fc..? i can't begin to tell you how many turbo2's i put to rest but you don't hear me talking shit about all of them now do you..? the idea that honda drivers drive sorry cars that don't move for shit and are second rate could just as easily be directed to your car by a driver with an fd or 911 turbo or bugatti or whatever...not that clever and funny anymore huh...?

12 sec fd 08-18-01 05:06 AM

so show us your specs...

Felix Wankel 08-18-01 06:17 AM


Originally posted by speckamp
why not just drop in a TII, and put a big single on it? What's the advantage to the -REW that the B-T doesn't have? There's someone on here w/ a 1st gen with a 13B-T running 270rwHP. With the availability of j-spec TII motors, why not use those?

Maybe I'm missing something, but if yer gonna run a single turbo, why not go the tried-and-tested route? If you want the 3rd gen twins, well, that's different.

--matt

The REW has bigger ports and a stiffer rear housing. I'm going to be making alot of power and don't feel like cracking the rear housing like my friend did with his TII engine.


RedRacinTII 08-18-01 01:11 PM

Hmmmmmm......My car and specs huh?I'm sorry, but di I ever say I had a 10 sec car?I don't think I did.Also, I believe I did say that there are SOME fast Hondas out there, but not many where I live.And for Hondas beating down on me, yeah there are some out there that could, but let's be honest here, most can't.My specs, lets see here.I have an 87 TII, with downpipe and high flow cat.OMG, you're right, with all those stupid mods I must be a ricer.As for times, I don't race much, and I have never been to the strip.I can however say that I have stayed right next to a 96 Z28, beat a newer Impala SS, Beat a Chevelle SS, hung with a moded 66 or so mustang, and killed a few Hondas.If there are SO many fast Hondas, how come I have never lost to one.Most won't even race.Let me give you an example of a stupid Honda.The other night I saw an older hatchback that had a turbo and BOV.The way it was whining it sounded like he was pushing at least 12 psi.I could tell he was gettin on it but it wasn't going anywhere.I mean WTF?Anyways, why would people in FD's, other than you, look down on me.They all love 7's, no matter what year, and aren't jerks just because their car is newer.And why would people in Hondas be laughing at my 13 year old car when it is beating their 2001 ass.It just doesn't make any sense to me.Oh well, I guess I'm done for now, cause I don't really feel much like arguing about something as stupid as this.It's an RX-7 forum, not a Honda forum.

Zaxonr34 08-18-01 04:04 PM

Honda motors are great but FF is not
 
I am not trying to bad mouth Honda or anything but, building race cars out of front engine Front wheel drive cars is just a waste. Yeah Honda builds great motors and I have alot of respect for their engineering but no Honda could ever be compared to an RX-7 except the S2000 and NSX and those are way too expensive. Until Honda starts producing affordable rear wheel drive sports car I think I'll stay with My RX-7.

RedRacinTII 08-18-01 04:13 PM

Zaxonr , you live in Santa Clarita CA?If so, I do too.What part?We should hang out sometime and talk 7's.

12 sec fd 08-18-01 07:16 PM


Originally posted by RedRacinTII
Hmmmmmm......My car and specs huh?I'm sorry, but di I ever say I had a 10 sec car?I don't think I did.Also, I believe I did say that there are SOME fast Hondas out there, but not many where I live.And for Hondas beating down on me, yeah there are some out there that could, but let's be honest here, most can't.My specs, lets see here.I have an 87 TII, with downpipe and high flow cat.OMG, you're right, with all those stupid mods I must be a ricer.As for times, I don't race much, and I have never been to the strip.I can however say that I have stayed right next to a 96 Z28, beat a newer Impala SS, Beat a Chevelle SS, hung with a moded 66 or so mustang, and killed a few Hondas.If there are SO many fast Hondas, how come I have never lost to one.Most won't even race.Let me give you an example of a stupid Honda.The other night I saw an older hatchback that had a turbo and BOV.The way it was whining it sounded like he was pushing at least 12 psi.I could tell he was gettin on it but it wasn't going anywhere.I mean WTF?Anyways, why would people in FD's, other than you, look down on me.They all love 7's, no matter what year, and aren't jerks just because their car is newer.And why would people in Hondas be laughing at my 13 year old car when it is beating their 2001 ass.It just doesn't make any sense to me.Oh well, I guess I'm done for now, cause I don't really feel much like arguing about something as stupid as this.It's an RX-7 forum, not a Honda forum.
i understand where you're coming from buddy...the only reason that i am arguing with you is because of the fact that you DID say that you piss all over hondas and to say that you're on the spotlight of each and every person that owns and races one...if you're gonna say all of them are ricers and then contradict yourself by saying there's alot of fast ones then you definitely have a problem...if the civic you raced wasn't going anywhere then obviously it had some kind of mechanical or tuning problem..so what..? does it make you feel big that you beat a turbo civic that wasn't running right or what...? if you didn't read correctly in my previous post let me put it down for you again...i'm not knocking older 7's...i already told you that it seems like you put alot of work, time, and pride into your car and if that doesn't seem like respect to you then that's YOUR problem...so what if you go with the mainstream idea that hondas are slow...does that make you right or popular..? if i thought your car was a piece of shit and most of the people on this forum don't so what...? lol...look at your car up to an fd and you tell me...my point is that you seem to be swinging in the direction of all the other ignorant posters on this forum and obviouly 1) can't think for yourself without fear of being ridiculed by someone on this forum and 2) haven't been in or driven a quick honda...like i said before consider what honda's were designed to be and what kind of gas mileage it gets with the type of induction it has buddy...you beat a stock motor 2001 honda with a filter and exhaust...so what..? does that make you feel like you have a fast car or what huh...? they're in another class like how you are with your car against a 911 turbo or a modded fd...with the simple mods on your car and your big ass talk about your car being THAT fast then yeah, to me you do sound like a ricer...like i said you people are always quick to judge other people but stop and look at YOUR car and you tell me...

12 sec fd 08-18-01 07:30 PM

Re: Honda motors are great but FF is not
 

Originally posted by Zaxonr34
I am not trying to bad mouth Honda or anything but, building race cars out of front engine Front wheel drive cars is just a waste. Yeah Honda builds great motors and I have alot of respect for their engineering but no Honda could ever be compared to an RX-7 except the S2000 and NSX and those are way too expensive. Until Honda starts producing affordable rear wheel drive sports car I think I'll stay with My RX-7.
lol...yeah..i agree with you completely..there's no comparison between hondas as is right now and 7's...all i have to say is that with a 11 second turnable car i obviously destroy alot of hondas but you don't see me talking shit about them...it's cool that you have respect for the engineering....i don't even think an s2 or an nsx could be put in the same category as a 7...what i and the greater majority of people in this culture we call import racing agree on is that as long as your car can hang with a modded twin of itself or anything better than you're pretty cool where you're at...it's like me saying i beat a modded miata...? so what...i'd be pretty damn pathetic bragging about it...if that civic hung with other civics and tried to fuck with this guy for the fuck of it or to see how he'd do then so what...? everyone has thier classes and as long you can hang in yours and have love and respect for the game then why the fuck would you try to knock on them...? that's not a good kill...that's just plain ignorance and a way to put another car down to make your car look that much better if you NEED that of course...i could talk all day about the 2's i killed but that's just not respectable...damn....if honda did make an affordable rwd car that was turbo'd too and they didn't put so much emphasis on economy or environmental protection that would be something to see...


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