13b Rew in a first gen
 

OK someone answer the question that has been boggleing my mind... a j-spec tt 13b rew in a first gen is it possable? I currently own 2 1st gens and am thinking about doing one since there so light... but I havent seen one around or and have never heard one talked about.... I have heard about the 6 ports being throughn in the 1st gens and I have a 4 port in mine.... any ideas??? Hell I piss on civics now with my na car... time to play with heavy boost if possable :dragster:

Anything is possible with enough money and know-how.

I think there's an Aussie running around here somewhere who has an REW powered first gen.

I've seen that setup while I was at Rampage Racing during their dyno day last winter. Very cool.

well my NOPI buddie goes to all the big show(to promote nopi) and when he was @ rx7.com (r.p.) he saw a 1st gen i think it was a 85 and it went 3,2,1...rew,t2 tranny,se rearend

T&R has a 1st gen with a 3rd gen transplant. Check out their site at www.rx7s.com I think it's Romeo's car. It runs 10s last I heard.

Don't the FD engines have a front cover mount kinda like the FB's do?

It'd be cool to have a 13B-REW (with a fatty single turbo, of course) in my RX2 :)

Never mind. I was way off on that one :(

Re: 13b Rew in a first gen
 

oh really...what kind of times are you hitting in your dragster and what kind of civics have you run..?

this is my impression.

the REW uses 2 oil metering lines if I am understanding this. Assuming that this is factual one in theory could mount a 12a front cover on a REW while using the standard 12A to 13B swap. I am unsure about the turbos and personaly I would think about puting a 89-91 turbo 2 exhaust manifold and turbo to keep the complexitys and cost down.

Re: Re: 13b Rew in a first gen
 

I am running a 79 rx-7 with street ported 13b, holley intake, holley 550 carb, fuel pump, oversized ratiator, water pump, double pully set up, electronic ignition, race beat air filter, p205 60 13 bfg comp ta's oh yah and a oversized piss on hondas sticker.... I guess if I was running a honda it would give me 50+ hp but oh well... its not the fastest thing on the road but if I can put a rew in a 1st gen... keep it a sleeper... Xnay on the Hondoo A big time!!! After looking at the site I think that it will fit but wireing the damn thing I am going to go out of my mind!!! But I got to get some more $$$ first :bootyshak :bash:

I have a 13B JC Cosmo engine in my 85 first gen.

I have a Garrett turbo, T72 front with Q equivalant rear blade with 1.22 divided rear housing.

I am running a HITman tuned E6K.

Timing cover is a 12A turbo one I believe and I do not have the oil injection connected so I run premix.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~manchild/bay-6.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~manchild/turbo-3.jpg

or more go see www.ajc13b.com

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all i've got to say is that you can't classify ALL hondas in one category that alot of you people call "rice" cars...there are alot of idiots with nonsense stickers and oversized wings but then again there are alot of idiots that chastize these cars and don't know shit about the game themselves...here in so. california there are more than a handfull of low 13 sec naturally aspirated hondas around so don't be too sure you'd be able to "piss" all over them because i'm pretty sure even with a 15 foot long type-r sticker any given honda down here'll give you a run for your money...not to knock on your car though..sounds like you have a lot of time, effort, and pride in it...it just pisses me off when someone comes on this forum posting like ALL hondas aren't shit and that they could beat any one..kinda sounds to me like bullshit thats kinda hard to believe...

There he is. :) I couldn't remember your name. :(

Why don't you run an '86-'88 mechanical OMP?

12 sec fd, do you own a honda?It sure sounds like you do.Oh, and btw, I live in cali too, and there are quite a few shitty Hondas running around.Yeah, there are a few fast ones, but for the most part they have nothing.I can't tell you how many Hondas I see every day with stupid body kits and no engine mods.So, IMO, for the most part, Hondas are ricers.

I was planning on premixing, and having a big single, so all I really need to know is if the 12A cover fits the -REW. Judging by AJC13B's car, it does :D

why not just drop in a TII, and put a big single on it? What's the advantage to the -REW that the B-T doesn't have? There's someone on here w/ a 1st gen with a 13B-T running 270rwHP. With the availability of j-spec TII motors, why not use those?

Maybe I'm missing something, but if yer gonna run a single turbo, why not go the tried-and-tested route? If you want the 3rd gen twins, well, that's different.

--matt

yes i own a honda and oh, btw, i own an fd too..notice my sn 12 sec fd...mid 12's with street tires and stock exhaust...hmmm...i was gonna ask you what kind of car do YOU drive..? if say i did own a honda so what..? is that a bad thing huh smart guy...? the common stereotype on this forum is that all hondas are slow and that people that own them don't know shit about motors but to tell you the truth i started on hondas, i still build honda motors to this day, and either way if you wanna list your car's specs or make up the best ones you can i can get a honda to run you that'll blow the doors off of your car...honestly partner, your part in saying for the most part hondas are ricers just shows your total ignorance about the import racing game as a whole...lol..yes i DO own a honda...a type-r as a beater car...so WHAT..? hey, for a car that wasn't designed with speed performance in mind you can't argue that they hold their own if built the right way buddy...how do you single out hondas as ricers when i've seen models of all makes looking fucked up just as bad as any lame ass moron lookin stupid in a fucked up looking honda...i've seen alot of mazdas that look fucked up so you must be driving a ricer car too...don't knock the company just because the cars end up in alot of dumbasses hands partner...so wassup...? show us some specs of your car and we'll see just who's driving a "rice" mobile...

oh hehe...i guess you own a t2 huh...so how do you feel when all the people you call "ricers" laugh at you for trying to race a close to 10 year old car??? or better yet how would you feel if everyone with an FD laughed at you and looked down on you cuz you're driving an fc..? i can't begin to tell you how many turbo2's i put to rest but you don't hear me talking shit about all of them now do you..? the idea that honda drivers drive sorry cars that don't move for shit and are second rate could just as easily be directed to your car by a driver with an fd or 911 turbo or bugatti or whatever...not that clever and funny anymore huh...?

so show us your specs...

The REW has bigger ports and a stiffer rear housing. I'm going to be making alot of power and don't feel like cracking the rear housing like my friend did with his TII engine.

Hmmmmmm......My car and specs huh?I'm sorry, but di I ever say I had a 10 sec car?I don't think I did.Also, I believe I did say that there are SOME fast Hondas out there, but not many where I live.And for Hondas beating down on me, yeah there are some out there that could, but let's be honest here, most can't.My specs, lets see here.I have an 87 TII, with downpipe and high flow cat.OMG, you're right, with all those stupid mods I must be a ricer.As for times, I don't race much, and I have never been to the strip.I can however say that I have stayed right next to a 96 Z28, beat a newer Impala SS, Beat a Chevelle SS, hung with a moded 66 or so mustang, and killed a few Hondas.If there are SO many fast Hondas, how come I have never lost to one.Most won't even race.Let me give you an example of a stupid Honda.The other night I saw an older hatchback that had a turbo and BOV.The way it was whining it sounded like he was pushing at least 12 psi.I could tell he was gettin on it but it wasn't going anywhere.I mean WTF?Anyways, why would people in FD's, other than you, look down on me.They all love 7's, no matter what year, and aren't jerks just because their car is newer.And why would people in Hondas be laughing at my 13 year old car when it is beating their 2001 ass.It just doesn't make any sense to me.Oh well, I guess I'm done for now, cause I don't really feel much like arguing about something as stupid as this.It's an RX-7 forum, not a Honda forum.

Honda motors are great but FF is not
 

I am not trying to bad mouth Honda or anything but, building race cars out of front engine Front wheel drive cars is just a waste. Yeah Honda builds great motors and I have alot of respect for their engineering but no Honda could ever be compared to an RX-7 except the S2000 and NSX and those are way too expensive. Until Honda starts producing affordable rear wheel drive sports car I think I'll stay with My RX-7.

Zaxonr , you live in Santa Clarita CA?If so, I do too.What part?We should hang out sometime and talk 7's.

i understand where you're coming from buddy...the only reason that i am arguing with you is because of the fact that you DID say that you piss all over hondas and to say that you're on the spotlight of each and every person that owns and races one...if you're gonna say all of them are ricers and then contradict yourself by saying there's alot of fast ones then you definitely have a problem...if the civic you raced wasn't going anywhere then obviously it had some kind of mechanical or tuning problem..so what..? does it make you feel big that you beat a turbo civic that wasn't running right or what...? if you didn't read correctly in my previous post let me put it down for you again...i'm not knocking older 7's...i already told you that it seems like you put alot of work, time, and pride into your car and if that doesn't seem like respect to you then that's YOUR problem...so what if you go with the mainstream idea that hondas are slow...does that make you right or popular..? if i thought your car was a piece of shit and most of the people on this forum don't so what...? lol...look at your car up to an fd and you tell me...my point is that you seem to be swinging in the direction of all the other ignorant posters on this forum and obviouly 1) can't think for yourself without fear of being ridiculed by someone on this forum and 2) haven't been in or driven a quick honda...like i said before consider what honda's were designed to be and what kind of gas mileage it gets with the type of induction it has buddy...you beat a stock motor 2001 honda with a filter and exhaust...so what..? does that make you feel like you have a fast car or what huh...? they're in another class like how you are with your car against a 911 turbo or a modded fd...with the simple mods on your car and your big ass talk about your car being THAT fast then yeah, to me you do sound like a ricer...like i said you people are always quick to judge other people but stop and look at YOUR car and you tell me...

Re: Honda motors are great but FF is not
 

lol...yeah..i agree with you completely..there's no comparison between hondas as is right now and 7's...all i have to say is that with a 11 second turnable car i obviously destroy alot of hondas but you don't see me talking shit about them...it's cool that you have respect for the engineering....i don't even think an s2 or an nsx could be put in the same category as a 7...what i and the greater majority of people in this culture we call import racing agree on is that as long as your car can hang with a modded twin of itself or anything better than you're pretty cool where you're at...it's like me saying i beat a modded miata...? so what...i'd be pretty damn pathetic bragging about it...if that civic hung with other civics and tried to fuck with this guy for the fuck of it or to see how he'd do then so what...? everyone has thier classes and as long you can hang in yours and have love and respect for the game then why the fuck would you try to knock on them...? that's not a good kill...that's just plain ignorance and a way to put another car down to make your car look that much better if you NEED that of course...i could talk all day about the 2's i killed but that's just not respectable...damn....if honda did make an affordable rwd car that was turbo'd too and they didn't put so much emphasis on economy or environmental protection that would be something to see...

Ummmmmm......Do you smoke crack or something?This is the last time I'm responding to this stupid post, but here goes.I think you are the one not reading correctly.I never said I piss on Hondas.That was Confederate RX7, I think you are confused.Also, never once did I say there are a LOT of fast Hondas.I said a FEW.Read my previous posts again.Maybe if you read correctly, and wrote down correct info, you wouldn't have such a problem.When exactly did I say I had a problem with fast Hondas?I think never.If someone has a fast Honda then that is cool cuz it's a good sleeper.My problem is with people owning Hondas that think they are the fastest thing on 4 wheels when they aren't.Now, I know that you may find this hard to believe, but I wouldn't mind having a 12 sec Honda if it's done right without a gay body kit and wing.I think you totally misunderstood what I said.I know people with slow civics that know they are slow and admit to it.That is cool.I know my car isn't that quick.It does pretty well,but I know it could be a lot faster.It just pisses me off when people think they are bad ass with their body kits and stuff, when they really aren't.https://www.rx7club.com/vforums/show...threadid=16106

This is a prime example of "RICE".If it's done properly, and not all ghetto I don't have a problem with it.It's the stereotypical Hondas that I don't like.So anyways, if you have a problem with something else that I ACTUALLY wrote, let me know and maybe I can answer it for you.Have a nice day, and read other posts properly before responding with wrong info.

The difference between T2 engines and the 3rd gen/comso engines is port size, higher compression, better stationary gears and the inspection plate has been moved from the top of the rear plate (which was a weak area) to on the actual gear box.

The reason I don't use the factory oil injection is because it was ECU controlled from the factory. It was easier to get rid of it altogether than hooking up a T2 oil metering setup.

lol..smoking crack..them sound like fighting words to me...seems like what you've been reduced to doing is strictly name calling so basically all i have to say to you is shut the fuck up...yeah i did say you said you piss all over hondas bacause that's basically what you said concerning your pos car didn't you...?

lol..smoking crack..them sound like fighting words to me...seems like what you've been reduced to doing is strictly name calling so basically all i have to say to you is shut the fuck up...yeah i did say you said you piss all over hondas bacause that's basically what you said concerning your pos car didn't you...? now what's your aguement buddy...? basically nothing since that's what the whole of your stupid ass post is generally about...you want to talk shit about ALL hondas, contradict yourself, then think you're some smartass because i used words from someone else to basically describe what the fuck you were saying hmmmm...? imma tell you like this buddy...talking about cars is one thing but trying to talk shit is another...if you have that big a problm that you want to raise up and talk all loud on this forum then i'd be happy to meet you in person so we can sort out these differences in person...when did you say you had a problem with fast hondas..? shut the fuck up...from what i've read you said basically all hondas are ricers so why don't YOU stop being confused...get your OWN shit straight before you keep talking yourself into more stupidity...and at least try to think about what you post before you have to go back and justify and defend what you typed ok smartass...? don't be mad cuz you know you got a lame ass car and you need to try to be cool and attack hondas because you think it'll make your car faster...sounds like you're the ultimate "ricer" here buddy...what you gonna do now..? say you don't have a problem with hondas again..? this should be the last time I'M responding to this stupid ass post, stupid because of your nonsense posts....shut the fuck up and read your OWN shit before you try to talk shit about hondas and bust another "oh, but i don't mean all of them"...go back and read your own posts dummy...by the way...i am having a nice day so stop trying smartass...

need i say more stupid..? what, you gonna tell me now you didn't write this..? get your shit straight and stop YOUR confusion and stupidity before you even attempt to respond to this post...honestly from what you've told me what you have in YOUR car and YOUR loud ass talk about impalas and other domestics it sounds like you'er the one who's a ricer...don't be mad at honda owners, be mad at yourself...you should respect the game more or one day you'll get caught slippin and all that disrespect'll catch up to your ass...

12 sec fd. i have a 81 gsl....20 year old car, you need to see the looks i get when the right foot goes down, many a honda and mightybitchy get spanked. yes its not a turbo and lots of cars can whip it bad but who cares if its old or what ever. its a matter of having a good car(what ever you want to call good). and fyi t2's stock or mild mods hate the 81 beast :eatme: most people (7 or not) cant say they 2xed the hp of there car...can you?

Hey badass, sounds like you have a pretty sweet car.I would love to see people's faces when you beat down on them with your 7.They think they are better than you cause your car is older but then you put them in their place.That's awsome.As for 12 sec fd, who knows what the hell he's talking about.I'm done arguing with him and his stupid ass ideas.

I hate to even hear people talk about Hondas! You earlier said that liking 7s and hating Hondas is mainstream, but its the other way around buddy. Take a drive and see all of the damn Hondas. The reason why people diss on them in here is because we know that we have something unique and if a 7 is modded correctly, it can beat most hondas out there. Why the hell would you want to race something or showoff something that everyone else has? Hondas get me so freaken angry!! :madfawk:. So if there is anyone in here that is for hondas, please leave now. I would have to say though if a Honda wasnt as popular as they are now, I might be interested in them, but theres no way in hell I would be now!

Man, you make a very good point.:D I see so many damn Hondas every day, but when do I see another 7?I would say once a week if I'm real lucky.

mainstream on THIS FORUM...not in the real world...i'm sorry buddy but along with my 7 and other cars i'm all for hondas and i'm not going anywhere so sorry...i live in so. california so don't tell me about how many hondas are out there...there are always people that aren't going to know how to fix up cars and with hondas the ratio is exponentially greater, hence the fact that you see so many that looked fucked up, but what this moron redracintII or whatever his name is fucked up on is saying that all hondas are pieces of shit...don't be so quick to judge because like i said which redracintII can't seem to understand is that people with even better cars than us like the porche's and the bugattis, f1's and what have you can just as easily talk down on us...we have great cars but it's not like we have the shit cars or even the best cars...

listen stupid, if you don't understand me then you don'thave any intelligence to be arguing with me in the first place...what's the matter, you can't understand your OWN POSTS HUH...?

listen stupid, if you don't understand me then you don'thave any intelligence to be arguing with me in the first place...what's the matter, you can't understand your OWN POSTS HUH...? that's right, do me a favor and stop arguing with me and shut the fuck up then...

hey buddy...i think you misunderstood my posts to that one moron racingtII...i didn't say i had anything against his car and if anything i was giving him respect for how much he liked it so don't try to trip and take it the wrong way buddy...the people out there that know about cars know how light the older 7's are and have respect for them so i'm pretty sure the looks weren't out of amazement...what i said about older 7's was just what an owner of a newer car MIGHT say or think and is not necessarily what i think...hey, to each his own right..? if i had respect for racingtII's car then i definitely have alot of respect for the work and time it seems you have put into your car...hey...don't get me wrong and think i hate the older 7's or r2's or r100's or cosmo's for that matter, i was just saying a possible comeback for all the shit talking that this guy was trying to talk about all hondas...nope, i can't say that i doubled the hp of my car from baseline til now but from 255 to the flywheel (stock) to around 340 to the wheel with stock turbos and the original motor unbuilt and my car hitting mid 12's on street tires spinning would you say that THAT was anything to not be proud of..?

no shit stupid, think of the number of just hatchbacks honda sold in the us in the 92-95 generation....over i million...don't think you're smart just because you see less 7's out there as compared to hondas...you live by magic mountain huh...funny thing is that i was over there this weekend and i didn't see any fixed up hondas but i did see a modded fc...as i've said before, your saying that ALL hondas are what you call "ricers" is funny in itself...maybe there's just morons in your area or you just know some stupid ass people..

Hey 12secfd, or whatever(like it matters :))...how many posts are you gonna make consecutively, my god man...I mean, arguing back in forth is one thing, but completely flooding the post w/ your BS w/ back to back replies, sheesh. BTW, since when were old cars, bad cars? I know a few domestics that could put even your 3rd gen to shame, and they are damn near 40 years old! So lets all just behave and get back to the fact that hondas suck, we all know it, quit your bitchin just cuz you have one, and lets all just get along :)

Ok... the fighting stops NOW.

Flaming (calling people "stupid" or "moron" for example) is NOT allowed. Please keep it civil.

If I have to lock the thread, or take other steps, I will do so.

The Management

man..your stupid ass trying to act brave and telling me to "quit my bitchin" is enough NOT to let this shit slide dumbass...your stupid ass is that stupid to not understand my thoughts on older cars huh dumbfuck...either way, you oblivously own a piee of shit car huh...? lol...man...don't bring your anger and frustration about your own life and your own piece of shit car to me and this forum dumbfuck..if you drive a piece of shit car then go buy another one if you can fuckup...yeah yeah yeah..domestics...you own a domestic farm boy...? go on your own forum then...you bring a shitty looking domestic that isn't streetable and obviously raced out to the limit and i'll show you a newer on that can easily hang with it or beat it...go take your domestic shit love over to an american car forum stupid...you never noticed you're driving a japanese car..? shut the fuck up with your domestic bullshit and go mind your own buisness no-life...it people like you that end up getting hurt in the real world...loud mouth and a smartass attitude to add to it...you talk pretty loud for being over a computer though...hehe..what kind of car do YOU have "rotoryman"..? lol...man...don't let your 88 pride get your ass in trouble...my type-r'll spank your rusty ass whatever (like it matters =)) so don't talk about domestics if you can't even say anything about the car that YOU own stupid...lol..yeah a f1 can beat your car...shut the fuck up...if a honda can beat your car and i know for a fact any modded type-r, s2000, or nsx can do that with no effort, then your car must suck...big huevos at that...i don't even know why i'm arguing with your stupid dumbfuck ass when your stupid ass is babbling about bullshit about my posts that you obviously don't understand...i said i didn't have a problem with older cars but so what if i did...? your car is a piece of shit...so what...? you happy now..? lol...what the fuck are you gonna do then now...? lol..man shut the fuck up...you shut the fuck up and maybe there's a chance i'll end up getting along with racintII...yes buddy your car sucks big eggs...

okay i like honda's, my friend has a 96 vtec coupe that cost her
$15 000 and my car cost me $5000 and our cars r about jsut as fast as eachother hers is a little quicker i think. but her car cost $10 000 more then mine!!!!!!!!! if i put even $5000 more into my car it would blow th doors right off of her car and its stikk $5000 cheaper then her car.
and im right inbetween most of u ppl i like some honda's and i hate some! and for who ever said their gay body kits what r u talking about they look dope and u obviously r against all honda's no matter what.

12 sec fd i like to see u get a 13 or so year old honda to beat a stock rx7 even a n/a rx7 hahah good lucky buddy
yea there r some but none that r stock and there is liek none that can beat a TII

oh yea and when u said they r pretty fast for economy car or whatever what r u talking about !!!!!!they r just as bad on gas as our cars if they r running 12's they dont still get 34mpg
they r classified as a economy car and thats what they should be the arent a sports car if they wanted a sports car they should buy a integra or a rsx

so u r telling us if a honda can beat a rx7 our rx7 must suck??

"yeah a f1 can beat your car...shut the fuck up...if a honda can beat your car and i know for a fact any modded type-r, s2000, or nsx can do that with no effort, then your car must suck"

so that means u think honda's r slow and shitty because for a rx7 to lose to one it must be a really shitty rx7
lol u dont have a clue what u r talking bout

C'mon, guys, let's just stop these hateful posts... Reading all this namecalling is making me feel depressed. I can't believe that there are 7-owners actually talking sh*t to each other. I visit alot of other forums such as clubsi.com and other honda related forums. I see flaming on these forums quite often, so I feel so much more mature when I post on the Rx7 forum. Barely anybody flames here. I'd like to think that 7-owners are more mature than other import owners, and it's just apalling to see you guys fight:( . "Rice" is just being ghetto with your ride: mazda OR honda. I'm glad to see that 12secFD has another type of car and respects all cars (before the namecalling). I'm glad to see RedRacinTII loves his 7 so much. Let's stop acting retarded and live in peace. There is no place for Haters.

Agreed'.. Stop the madness.
 

PLEASE... Stop this madness.. a civic with tons of money into it can whail on an RX7.. why would that mean our cars suck? Your car with the same amount of money would rain hell on any car on the road. So.. NOW do you see the advantage of owning an RX7? Great little cars, easy to mod, cheap to get power... Not SUPER cheap like a stang, but pretty cheap for Jap-power. Now stop the fighting or else. Yes.. that happens to be a threat. :)

-- Micah(MODERATOR)

you don't have a clue about what YOU'RE talking about canadianrx7...if a guy says that all hondas are slow and if any given honda can beat it like the case with racintII then yeah your rx7 must suck...i have an fd so don't trip and think that i'm talking shit about all rx7's...if a sorry modded civic can beat your 7 then yeah your 7 must BE a shitty one...ey guys..sorry about the flamming..i have mad love for 7's but i have mad love for hondas too...like you guys said a modded honda can blow the doors off of a 7 so why even imply if not outright say that ALL hondas are slow...sounds like the last 2 guys especially micasoft have the knowledge and respect that everyone should have about ALL cars so yeah imma stop with these posts about hondas since it is off topic in a big way...to racintII good luck talking shit about hondas when you're at a big event that doesn't just have guys there that own rotorys let alone a forum or just people you see racing and canadianrx7 shut the fuck up...lol..you REALLY seem to not know what the fuck is going on so just shut the fuck up buster..

Re: Agreed'.. Stop the madness.
 

hmmm...let me see...adam and steph are right at each other right...way i see it a fully modded honda and a fully modded mazda are right about the same quickness...advantage..? for what...the msrp of the car..? the fuel economy of the car..? the insurance rates of the car..? don't try to tell me about the differences of a civic and the advantages of an rx7...with that now do YOU see the complete differences of both and the completely seperate classes that both are in...read my posts before you try to sound like a smartass "moderator"...why don't you shut the fuck up with your "threats", lol, and let us fully discuss the issues that can be debated about...that's what an online forum is for right..? how did you ever become a moderator of a forum if you can't stand the arguement of certain issues by people huh..? haha..if you haven't noticed you're a computer online forum moderator, not god...take your threats somewhere else and let people on this forum discuss topics..oh and by the way...i ment the guy that posted above you with the respect and knowledge about ALL cars, not you buddy...

As none of this has anything to do what-so-ever anymore w/1gen tech support, thread is closed.

If you would all like to continue this argument, I suggest taking it to private messenging or email.