Lowest Rx7's
 

Hey guys pretty new to the seen. Wondering how low can these cars go? I have been contemplating a little project and want to see some slammed FB's. I think I read coilovers dont work with these cars and read something about ajustable spring perchs? How low do those let the car go? And what needs to be done to actually slam the car?

Your on the wrong forum Honda Civic - All Generation Honda Civic Forums :lol:

You're not out of the first grade because your grammar is horrible. To not know something is O.K. but posting just to post without any knowledge is just ignorant. Any one with a little more mechincal skills that can teach me something about these cars. You dont know who I am, what car's I've owned. Maybe you should head over to that forum since civic owners have bad grammar too right? Low≠Civic.

let the flame war begin. i think he was joking..... but i mean... coilovers are the awnser but it depends on what you want to do with the car.

woah, slow down there, johnny thunder.
obviously any real car person would know that half the time car stuff is all custom. you said yourself what you think it takes to go low- so go try that.
if your so up to snuff on the "whos who" of the car world, then heaven forbid that you forget that the rx7club survives on the "search" function.


Offtopic... but what does a "legit badass car person" such as yourself only care about "how low can I go?" as the first thing a car can do? Seems to me maybe you should play with the idea of visiting the civic forum..
(BTW, I purposely left bad punctuation in my post. can you find them?)

Who said I only care about going low? I have a 5.0 waiting to be dropped into one, but, getting low would important in completing the look I am going for on the car. I would want the front and rear tires to tuck a little, but the whole car would have to be complete, not just one cool feature. And come on scrapp, you know the newbs in the forum world want all the info handed to them. I had done some searching and had heard the stock location of the shocks in the rear arent a good place for coil overs to support the car. I come from fox body mustang world, our cars work a little different. All I really asked for are what are options for lowering the car and what gets it the lowest. For mustangs the answer is easy, springs-kinda low, coilovers-lower, bags-lowest. For Rx7's I was wondering the options, prices, and degree of difficulty, am I going to have to cut the whole trunk and make new shock mounts to put in some coilovers, or do they bolt in. But maybe the guys over at the Honda forums are more competent.

RE-Speed has the greatest selection as far as I know for borderline bolt ins.

Street - Shocks and Springs : 1978-1985 Rx7, Rear Coil Over Kit

Anything else; custom.

I wouldn't say the honda guys are more or less competent, but maybe of the same maturity level as yourself. Blasting people who have been on the forums for many years, and who probably have more knowledge than you could ever imagine about these cars, won't get you any better help. Came from the fox-body world? Maybe you should go back.

/rant

Back on topic, coilovers, or custom fabrication I would say are your choices.

First, it goes like search the topic, done and still not found what you want, ask. Now you are at the ask others part so. . .
You want low first lets get one inquiry out of the way what size wheels? 8" will work but, I have read spacers are needef up front to clear the strut housing & 7" fit great offset seems to vary, that you just gotta ask about and read. Next you ran fox bodies, cool car with a similar rear set up watts link. Remember it is set-up with separate springs and shocks, one way to go is adjustable rear spring purches like coil overs but again separate shocks also full rear coil over are possible as a couple of guys have used ae86 and older camaro coilovers from strange and techno toy tuning also don't forget about rearend binding. You also can't add rear camber to a 1st gen due to it being solid axle. The front the norm is to go with re-speed front coilover kit, plain and simple. Now I haven't seen a baged 1st gen nor do I know the difficulty but, hey that shouldn't stop you if you wanna do it. Also how low do YOU want it? Lowering springs are an option and by far the cheapest depending how in the weeds you wanna be. Hope I hepled some.

I'm immature? The guy posts a rolling smilie face while redirecting to a Honda forum while I ask a legitimate question. I did as much research I could find before asking. Thanks to the kind gentlemen who recommended Re-speed coil overs I have now been opened up to a new world of things to research.

You people and your online forums are ridiculous. I use online forums as a tool not a social network. I dont care how long you have been on a forum or how much seniority you think you have, if you have nothing enlightening to add then you are useless to me, and will get no respect in my response. Plain and simple. I came here for information, not to join your guys' cool little party, dont worry I wont spoil that for you. Thanks for those who replied with help.

Thanks for the reply. I figured our rear end setups are almost identical since the 8.8 would bolt up. The problem I have with the coilovers on my mustang is that the shock is too long and bottoms out not allowing me to get the car as low as I would like. They also sell adjustable spring perches for fox bodys but havent seen how low they go. Which is why I was worried about the rears on these cars, I am afraid of the same thing happening where I just cant get the adjustment that I want.

I am not sure one wheels size or offset yet, but the wider the better so I can fit as much tire as possible for the V8. I would like to stick with coilovers/spring perches if it will get me low enough, I need to be able to adjust it though.

The stance I want would be similar to these cars.

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Obviously this one but I've seen in his build what he did to get it that low.

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Obviously you have no sense of humor. I retract my honda forum comment and instead direct
you here Ricers - Ricer - Rice Forums.

Quoted from above:

"Hey guys pretty new to the seen"

Pudwacker, that would be "scene", not "seen". The word "seen" refers to what you see, as in:

"Those pictures of lowered 1st gens are the ugliest thing I've ever seen."

I realize you're new to the scene, but it shouldn't take you long to figure out that "slamming" is a great way to totally ruin the performance and appearance of any 1st gen RX-7.

Like Tim says, better get a honda.

And did you say "V8"?

Dude, you're in the wrong forum.

lol, all i am saying is being a dick isn't going to get you much help here, honda forums, fox body forums, and the like included.

anyway, have fun slamming your car.

clearly his not looking for performance because 1st hes swapping a 5.0 , and wants to "slam" his rx7 into the ground. by dropping that load of scrap metal under the hood should drop the suspension to its knees already. :lol:

secondly he doesnt know what wheels hes going to run thus what offset he needs or tires to clear after that its just simple math to figure out exactly "how low you can go". no matter if its a mobile home or an rx7 or a race car. and without any of that info your not really asking a question. one does not just be the "lowest" that isnt an actual value. thats an opinion.

thirdly noone says you have to be a "part of or little club". but if its not to your liking then feel free to leave or stay and behave with some respect. before you find yourself of the wrong end of the ban hammer.

Good luck and hope you find what your looking for. but based on your current line of questioning i would assume like others that you are defiantly in the wrong place.

i on the other hand actually have a real suggestion to redirect you, :nod:http://www.norotors.com/ they know alot more about the swap your doing and probably how to combat the problems your going to run into when dealing with the suspension. :icon_tup:

You guys are acting like I am the first person who's ever done this. Just because your car is sitting on stilts, and has the stock little lawnmower motor in it doesn't mean people dont have different taste. And obviously I dont care about performance, or I wouldn't be buying a 1st gen RX7 and putting a 5.0 in it.... If I did at the very least I'd go with an FC and put an LS1 in it. Everyone is just so quick to bash rather than find out the details of someones ideas, mostly how it works in the real world too.

I have been on norotors.com, they do not segregate generations of rx7's making it much more difficult to ask and find info. I figured my question wasn't about the swap but more of a how do you lower this car" question I figured I'd post here. But I love how a technical question that needed to be a simple short answer turns into everyone's eye-opening and enlightening opinions.

First since you want to run a V8 do look at swaping in an 8.8, the re-speed perches go pretty low.
Also for all you have shown that is more than achiveable with off the shelf stuff, look up granny's speed for your swap parts. You mention wide rear rubber, I say fender flares or wide body unless your tubing out the rear to drag it. 16" looks real nice and works pretty well may as well go 5 lug while your at it, and upgrade the brakes. I assume you want it to corner in that case the stance your after is gunna be close but get it aligned and corner balanced if you can. Which 5.0 you gunna drop in? If you get the geometry and weight distribution right it will be low and handle right and be fun. Also I have what you call "the stock lawn mower motor" much like you want help don't knock down the rotary so quick it has alot to give and in a 1st gen does damn good against much more powerful cars. V8 is awsome but, I lovey 12a

I would be using granny's speed kit for the swap, and 8.8 would be going in, probably out of an explorer since they have the 3.73 gears in em factory. The motor is out of a 98 Explorer with the iron gt40p heads. It would be all iron so it would be pretty heavy, I wouldn't be racing it or anything crazy, I would like to fit a 7 or 8" in the back, I have a set of slicks that are on some 15x7 wheels right now but they bulge, I would like to use those tires though, I could get them on an 8". I have actually been looking at the special edition wheels but haven't looked into what size they are exactly.

I wouldn't put aluminum heads on it or anything, I would keep the motor mostly stock to begin with, my intention would be to make the car look like it came like that factory with motor and all. I am thinking SE wheels lowered to the point where its sitting flush with the tires.

nooneis bashing do whatever you want but lets not sit here and deny that a monstrous 5.0 wont affect the cars handling that why its an issue. and if oyu dont see htat then....

your the one who insulted our "lawnmower motors"

Now the SE is 4x114.3 12a cars are 4x110 respectively 8" with the right offset will fill out the rear nicely. Iron block, get it back in the bay or it will drasticly shift the weight forward, and that makes it not handle right. I'd give it some dress up just so it has some flash and you will have to run headers. The key is shocks as I have read to stiff it rides like crap to soft it handles like a barge.
The ride height you are after is doable. The stock rear is only good till 250hp how much will that throw at it? Is this gunna be a driver or trailer queen, no offence? This can be a fun to drive car if you do it right but, like was said above the power plant is heavy especially compared to stock and if you want it to not handle like well a barge, there is alot to think about. You want it low as well, if you want it to handle well, balance and suspension geometry are gunna be crutial, hence driver or trailered show car?

"You guys are acting like I am the first person who's ever done this. Just because your car is sitting on stilts, and has the stock little lawnmower motor in it doesn't mean people dont have different taste. And obviously I dont care about performance, or I wouldn't be buying a 1st gen RX7 and putting a 5.0 in it.... If I did at the very least I'd go with an FC and put an LS1 in it. Everyone is just so quick to bash rather than find out the details of someones ideas, mostly how it works in the real world too.

I have been on norotors.com, they do not segregate generations of rx7's making it much more difficult to ask and find info. I figured my question wasn't about the swap but more of a how do you lower this car" question I figured I'd post here. But I love how a technical question that needed to be a simple short answer turns into everyone's eye-opening and enlightening opinions. "

Nice come back Pud, on with the show!

I didnt say that?

The car wont need to handle awesome, I am not going to be autocrossing or racing it. It will be a weeknd car, I will drive it everywhere but maybe be started once a week. The motor will make about 240hp and 280tq when its all in there said and done. As I go on I will switch parts here and there, but at first mostly stock. I've been building ford EFI 5.0's since I was 16 so I know a thing or two about em. I guess I could contact granny's shop about this but does theirs position the motor closer or further back?

Not sure but, they have a site just google them, for the rest re-speed. In all honesty to get it to handle to be a weekend car there is some work, sway bars are a must and heavy springs all around and adjustable shocks too the re-speed front street coilover should do fine as should the rear adjustable perches, go for the Illumina's for shocks, and finally re-speed fo your sway bars. This should do what you want and still have it handle if you get the balance right.

So lets say I first drop the motor in get it running, you dont think even the stock suspension would be able to handle the car? I'm not talking about taking corners at 60mph, I'm talking about normal driving.

That is debateable to roll around or go down the block maybe anything more and I'd say probably not, 30+ year old stuff? Hell mine don't even have all 4 shock working or working correctly (my next major project). And it will not like the weight addition on stock. To get her back and low in the bay alot of measuring and pre-planing check out our V8 section to may help inspire you a bit.

I was reading grannysspeedshop and this is what they say on distribution.

http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/1...uctions10.html

Is that with their install kit? If so then awsome, what I am mostly getting at is that extra weight will not along with the tired stock parts and they won't last to long. When you get the suspension ready to go I'd do the brakes too.

I dont think the stock springs in the front would be up for the task. They have pretty low spring rates, as they were designed to support a relatively light front end, and offer reasonable ride comfort in factory trim. By adding a couple hundred pounds up front ( and will also likely be offset even further to the front due to size) I think the springs would be overloaded and the vehicles balance would be iffy

^This right here is what I was trying to say, and again if it's factory it's old and tired any way no to replace it than while it's already down.

ORLY? First post:

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Spell check, like fire, is a fine servant but a terrible master.

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All sorts of fun here:
First, it's "Anyone."
Second, this is what grammarians call a "Sentence Fragment." You can research that on the internet. Probably.
Third, is is spelled "mechanical."

(cars)

Excuse me, but wouldn't that be true of you with regard to Mr. Farrel? So aren't you vacating your own argument when you try to point out his ignorance of you as a failing when you have proved your are at least as ignorant of him?

Yes, you are; that was a rhetorical question. You can look that up too.

How would you know that unless you've spent time there?

But more to the point, YOU are the one who decided to bring grammar (actually spelling, but I suspect you're not too clear on the difference) into this... so isn't it sort of counter-productive for you to try to insult someone by making a crack about him being a possible grammar nazi?

(That was also rhetorical.) <-- those are parentheses; caution, advanced language users only!

In closing: :lol:

... Doosh bag.
I shoulda hit "submit reply" and never canceled my 2 cents earlier today.
You just want an image.
Clearly your still 16 and just looking for even younger kids to ride your nuts at the local hip-hop-hippity burger joint on Friday nights. Who cares how much you know about a particular motor. This car is not a mustang and its not going to act like one for you.

Your plans for the car make no sense.

Yes. Yes, and Yes. Anything else?

Look I understand where you guys are coming from, it's not your thang. Make fun of my grammar when I mess up, and I'll make fun of his when he messes up. I saw his post count, what does that mean? I understand, if someone came onto a Mustang forum I visit talking about putting their car on bags and dropping a twin turbo 2JZ in it I'd be laughing and flaming too. Maybe you guys are just too old, but the fact is I didnt ask for your opinions, I am just a little older than 16, maybe not as old as all you guys who bought these cars when they were coming off the showroom floor but I can turn a couple wrenches. Sorry if you sweatin' my style bros.

I'm 25 and no I am not an RX-V8 fan but, hey if done right they ain't to bad. I don't flame unless it's deserved and myself and others have tried to give you good info and in all serriousness you my want to go the the V8 section and ask aswell. The old timers will give you hell till can either take a joke or leave. Remember the inerwedz ain't that seirous. We will try to help you though.

Thanks man, you have helped me out a lot, I started checking the V8 section, I couldn't get in before because I didnt have 10 posts....

Good man and remember to read a few build threads, they have more info than you'd think.
You should make one to, show us what you are doing and we will stear you in the right direction,
don't be offended if it looks unsafe you we be told bluntly however. Your prior experience is going
to be useful for doing the drive-train and suspension the rest is on your fab skills. It will be one off
many simmilar but none the same. If you listen you will learn.
And you are welcome I try to give back where I can as I have learned alot here.

It means, combined with his join date, that he's probably been working on -7's longer than you've been shaving.

If someone went on a mustang forum, I'd be laughing too.

No, just for our help with somehting you don't know much about.

So you start off by pissing on the shoes of exactly the kind of person who has the info you need.

Brilliant. Considered politics for your career choice?


Ignorant combined with rude is not a style, 'bro.' It's more an affliction. Add in a sense of entitlement to information that others have spent years accumulating, without having anything yourself to offer in the way of info or respect, and I'm guessing you're not all THAT far from 16... though we have had younger folks than that here who at least had decent manners.

Think you got off on a very wrong foot? Yeah... You might want to see to that.

Ok cool, I will be sure next time I join a forum to kneel down before all the people with old join dates and high post counts so that I will be accepted and able to ask questions. Yea right, if you dont want to help then dont answer, its that simple, I was never rude, and treated people with as much respect as I received from my first response. Im not some bitch and not gonna take shit from old RX7 owners like you who think they're tight because they run a website. Get out of my thread, I got the info I need from people who were willing to help.

Go ahead, ban me, just remember my name cause when I finish dropping the motor in, I'll send you a pm just to show you how riced out my car is broooo.

I pity the car that gets "modded" by you. You don't have to be old to have respect for these cars. I'm 18 myself, and I know for a fact that your car will either end up for sale as a parts car, or sent to a junkyard/crusher. People like you give my generation a bad name. Have some respect for elders, you tool. You treated nobody with any respect, but just waltzed in here expecting that everyone bow to you because you demand help. Want advice? Sell the rx, and go back to the fox bodies. You clearly know a lot about them.

YES BLOW ME I DESERVE ALL OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE! Sorry for coming in here and wanting to violate one of your precious rx7's. I am not worthy. I am older than you kiddy, and I still have my "slammed ricey civic'y fox body", it's not going anywhere....

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oooh, nice bolt-ons. looks like every other fox i saw in my high school parking lot :lol:

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Lol oh yea? What bolt on's do you see? A trickflow intake? That's it. I keep it simple, you cant tell me what shortblock I got in there, what heads I've got, what cam, what kind of headers, you cant even tell me what type of damn valve covers are on that car. I keep my shit clean, looks stock, but you could wipe your ass with how long the mod list is, and I'm not talking about no MSD spark plug wires, and APC stickers.

then go ahead and list it :nod:

any internet badass can brag about what people can't see :rolleyes:

post some receipts, and a dyno sheet while you're at it ;)

ay yai yai....


Go with Re-Speed coilovers if you still can...ive heard of customer service issues as of late....

or it sounds like maybe the FC subframe/suspension swap would perhaps be more in line with your needs, so research that as well..

What a mess this internet becomes...



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RxTex, I feel you on the mess, this went south fast.

Please make note of MPH and 60' time? I know you rx7 guys probably dont make it out to the track much...

No land speed records but for an N/A 5.0 I really have nothing else to prove to you guys.

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Thumbs up for the proof, I stand corrected. Impressive times.

Not bad on the slip or fox body clean old-school not a fan of white though looks like an
undercover to me. Stick or auto w/line lock. If you re good with v8 why not try a rotary,
just sayin, these little cars are great when rotary powered quick and nimble.

Ha ha ha. I was going to join in, not because you sound like a ricey kid, but rather because you come right out the gates talking about ripping the heart out of a rotary. Sickens me. Yeah, whatever, do it if you like, but how about picking up a roller or something that someone has parted out and actually SAVING a 7 instead of ruining (my opinion, shared by many) and dropping a pistoned heart into it.

Most noobs hang out awhile, take some time and do a few searches to find the info, THEN start asking questions. It's too early to start running for NOTY 2013, but you started out strong. Keep it mellow and realize you're not on Nopistons, we're here because we love rotaries.

I can't wait till 2017 to see how many fanboys surge back to this forum when the new 7 comes out.