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midnight mechanic 04-28-21 11:53 PM

fb door glass
 
my driver's door glass shattered when I rolled it down.

so far my choices are safelite ($380) and glass america ($211).

nothing came up for auto salvage/junk yards/recycling yards.

has anyone else had this character building adventure?

j9fd3s 04-29-21 09:59 AM

i would try to find used, its all the same 79-85, except the late 85 GSL-SE which is bronze tint

7aull 04-29-21 11:50 AM

If you can't find one locally, by the time you get someone elses, + shipping + hassle if it gets broken in shipping (who pays?) + whatever scratches/ wear marks etc it has, I would consider new, esp if you local guys $$ includes delivery.

Be aware that the glass is anchored at the bottom of the internal track by a pair of nylon clips, which are bound to be brittle, if they have not already failed. Not sure these are even avai from mazda... I have seen them still avai thru Australian vendors (ebay).

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...724bd2a67.jpeg
Stu A
80GS
AZ

midnight mechanic 04-29-21 12:21 PM

nylon protectors? so what is the workaround?

rolling the window up/down was hard, I'm taking out all the guides. Something wasn't right.

Rolling assembly works freely now w/o the window, so it must be the guides.

j9fd3s 04-29-21 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by midnight mechanic (Post 12465973)
nylon protectors? so what is the workaround?

you keep the main part, and just use a nut and bolt

Frogman 04-29-21 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by 7aull (Post 12465967)
If you can't find one locally, by the time you get someone elses, + shipping + hassle if it gets broken in shipping (who pays?) + whatever scratches/ wear marks etc it has, I would consider new, esp if you local guys $$ includes delivery.

Be aware that the glass is anchored at the bottom of the internal track by a pair of nylon clips, which are bound to be brittle, if they have not already failed. Not sure these are even avai from mazda... I have seen them still avai thru Australian vendors (ebay).

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...724bd2a67.jpeg
Stu A
80GS
AZ

Off-topic but Australian eBay vendors have EVERYTHING ! . NLA is a myth unless ita an engine part, and even then they probably want your firstborn child for it, but they have it .

7aull 04-29-21 09:08 PM

Yep. Actually some prices are quite reasonable. its the freeking SHIPPING that is catastrophic ;P

Stu A
80GS
AZ

midnight mechanic 05-02-21 01:51 AM

Do professional auto glass installers have their own special delivery services? I cannot image shipping a car's door glass by FEDEX and not having the package thrown around. As anyone had car's door glass successfully shipped to them from an independent car part stripper?

j9fd3s 05-03-21 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by midnight mechanic (Post 12466348)
Do professional auto glass installers have their own special delivery services? I cannot image shipping a car's door glass by FEDEX and not having the package thrown around. As anyone had car's door glass successfully shipped to them from an independent car part stripper?

at the dealership we used to shake the boxes with glass in them, if it sounds like legos, you didn't even need to open it...

yeti 05-03-21 08:56 AM

That nylon piece sounds like something @Benjamin4456 or @kutukutu1 needs to add to their list of printable parts.

j9fd3s 05-03-21 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by yeti (Post 12466532)
That nylon piece sounds like something @Benjamin4456 or @kutukutu1 needs to add to their list of printable parts.

it is, i think the original is Nylon, and its in the door, so fit and finish aren't an issue

ray green 05-03-21 07:33 PM

MM, I have an original driver's side door glass (passenger's side too) you can have, just pay shipping.

The shipping won't be that bad, I can box it up in cardboard, probably around $50. I've done it before.

I probably have those nylon clips, just let me know what to look for.

Let me know, can send pics.

Benjamin4456 05-03-21 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by yeti (Post 12466532)
That nylon piece sounds like something @Benjamin4456 or @kutukutu1 needs to add to their list of printable parts.

I was reading through and thinking the exact same thing - as soon as I saw your comment I chuckled. I actually have a few nylon parts printed and I'd definitely be up for making these (very close to posting some parts as well, finally...). If I am correct though, Atkins has these available still, or at least they did a year ago when I broke one of mine.


And a quick search later: https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/7...44-72-502.html

So they do still have them. I can definitely make them cheaper than 25 bucks a pop, although Atkins' repro cast nylon will always have an edge in terms of durability over my FDM process.

Maxwedge 05-04-21 06:45 AM

How many of these are required per window?

Last time I rolled the pass side down it separated from the track, so the crank kept going down but the window hung at half way. Now that Summer's here I need to fix this.

swbtm 05-04-21 08:11 AM

Two of those nylon clip/retainers are needed per side. Here's an order I got from Aussieland. Line item 4, part number 1994 is what you are talking about. I think the shipping was going to be the same for one item vs the whole list. Ended up getting a bunch of things. Phil had a "going out of business" notice on his ebay store when the order was placed, it's still up there now. :dunno:
The package came quickly and was packed well. Nice quality feel to the parts too. The cost below is in AUD.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...2fac09242.jpeg


Maxwedge 05-04-21 01:27 PM

Thank you Benjamin and swbtm for those parts references. I ordered from Phil's in Australia. I've ordered from him before and gotten reasonable shipping times. I've actually been ordering lots of parts from Aussie and NZ sellers lately.

I'm glad Atkins is reproducing them but at $25 each that's a hard sell.

yeti 05-05-21 07:53 AM

I don't think I'll buy from Phil's Rotary again. Each item had $25-$50 shipping. They said they'd combine shipping since it'd all come in the same box and weight wasn't a factor for what I was buying. They had the invoice function on ebay disabled so I couldn't buy it on one order. So I had to buy it all in multiple orders. Said they'd combine after but then wouldn't after I placed the order on ebay. Order arrived in one box, probably $100 shipping for a box the size of a large book and weighing in at around a pound.

Yeah I'm still a little bitter.

swbtm 05-05-21 09:07 AM

For orders like that, you can send a request for quote, with the full list of parts, directly to the seller and they create a single item that you pay for once the RFQ is agreed upon. A bit convoluted but it keeps it all on one order sheet. This also reduces confusion on the sellers side in terms of what goes in the box.

raven12aFB 05-05-21 11:53 AM

The plastic inserts that hold the glass to the track you can get them at Atkins Rotary...a little bit on the expensive side for what it is but they are brand new...

https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/7...44-72-502.html

yeti 05-07-21 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by swbtm (Post 12466893)
For orders like that, you can send a request for quote, with the full list of parts, directly to the seller and they create a single item that you pay for once the RFQ is agreed upon. A bit convoluted but it keeps it all on one order sheet. This also reduces confusion on the sellers side in terms of what goes in the box.

I tried that. I emailed the seller telling him that what I wanted to do and he said to use the invoice or request a quote method. (I don't do a lot of ebay buying and it's been a few years back.) I put all the items together and when I clicked to submit it for a quote, ebay told me the seller wasn't accepting quotes. So I emailed again. Same story or no reply (it's been a few years) so I bought all the parts using ebay's shopping basket feature and sent an email to the seller asking for the difference, again no response. I don't remember my exact order but he had something that at the time I couldn't find stateside or was astronomical here (again don't recall which). I have an SA so some items are unique, hard to find, and in very limited quantities. There was also a call to action (going out of business) sale when in reality I don't think they are going out of business. I think I ended up paying $20 for shipping a key or something that weighs "nothing" and was shipped in the same box as another high shipping priced weightless item.

This all said, by all means, please do business with them. The parts are as described, the exchange rate is favourable to the US, and parts arrived pretty quick based on my recollection; just be a little more pushy about shipping.

midnight mechanic 05-15-21 12:24 PM

does the rear have a separate piece of metal that acts like a window guide, like the front does?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...24842cd18a.jpg

Benjamin4456 05-15-21 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by midnight mechanic (Post 12468348)
does the rear have a separate piece of metal that acts like a window guide, like the front does?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...24842cd18a.jpg

Nope, that's the only rail per door/window.

midnight mechanic 05-15-21 01:59 PM

if you google >>>mazda nylon window grommet<<< there are all kinds of places that sell them in bulk. As in it is a universal part.

Some where it says 4 are required. Maybe they mean 2 for each side, which would make sense.

https://www.google.com/search?q=mazd...sA_bJsONlPM9VM
https://www.ebay.com/p/16007654904


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