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jshiz 09-25-10 08:41 PM

Anybody use these? (wheel adaptors)
 
As my search for another -SE is proving fruitless I need a way to ditch the 110 bolt pattern.

Anybody used these or know a better group to buy them from?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-...#ht_776wt_1170

ricerockettuner 09-25-10 10:07 PM

ive been wondering the same thing. almost clicked buy about 20 times

PercentSevenC 09-25-10 10:23 PM

That's a really, really good price, and only 15mm thick, too. Man am I ever tempted...

Directfreak 09-25-10 10:39 PM

Looks Good. I am using 1.5" Spacers on mine!

13x 09-25-10 11:26 PM

wow thats has me tempted, wonder if they would work with the racing harts I coudl get my hands on

bshusted 09-25-10 11:40 PM

I have a machinist friend making some for me. When we talked about how thick to make them, he was worried that 1" ~25mm wouldn't be enough to tighten it down and hide the lugnut. He's making them 1.5". At only 15mm I'd be worried that there isn't enough material between the lugnut and hub to be strong enough.

These are cheaper and a bit thicker to be less worried about.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wheel...item53e3c16459

Kentetsu 09-26-10 02:04 AM

Brian, that one is for only two adapters. So, for 4 of them, you'd be at $150.00...








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bshusted 09-26-10 08:56 AM

I only need 2 because the front of my car is already 4x114.3.

I should have looked closer at the original listing to see that it was for 4.

rare70cat 09-28-10 04:04 PM

grade of aluminum
 
I asked the seller what grade of aluminum he was using to make his adapters because of the concern about them being 15mm. Will post his answer when he responds

PercentSevenC 09-28-10 04:18 PM

Bear in mind that the stock hub is only about 3/8" thick.

j9fd3s 09-28-10 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by bshusted (Post 10236406)
I have a machinist friend making some for me. When we talked about how thick to make them, he was worried that 1" ~25mm wouldn't be enough to tighten it down and hide the lugnut. He's making them 1.5". At only 15mm I'd be worried that there isn't enough material between the lugnut and hub to be strong enough.

These are cheaper and a bit thicker to be less worried about.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wheel...item53e3c16459

my TR3 from the factory has wheel adapters, and they used thin lug nuts and its ok

number 77, http://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProdu...eIndexID=29136

bshusted 09-28-10 07:47 PM

It isn't so much the "thin" lug nuts that would concern me. Even if you get a nut where the hex part is 7mm tall (pretty short), you then have to take into account the 60 degree taper of the lug nut. With an outer diameter of 17mm (on the small side) the taper eats up another 5.2mm. The 15mm spacer is already down to 2.8mm maximum thickness at the tip of the cone. Does this seem like enough material to you? It certainly seems risky to me.

flight_of_pain 09-28-10 11:13 PM

The lugs don't hold the weight of the car, they only provide a clamping force. Friction holds the weight.

masa_3100 09-28-10 11:31 PM

I got spacers/adapters for my FC which is heavier then a FB and it holds up very nicely. The only thing you HAVE to get is hub centric adapters. If you dont, your wheels wont line up perfectly(well easily anyway) and give you vibrations and unwanted stresses. Dont get these. as they are not hub centric. Try buying from this guy on Ebay, the guy i got mine from. He sells hubcentric ones and I went and dug through his product reviews and there is nothing but good about his spacers. http://stores.ebay.com/optionselects

bwaits 09-29-10 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by jshiz (Post 10236224)
Anybody used these or know a better group to buy them from?

Holy lack of bearing surface Batman!


Originally Posted by flight_of_pain (Post 10241555)
The lugs don't hold the weight of the car, they only provide a clamping force. Friction holds the weight.

Which goes to zero as soon as one lug loosens a bit. Need hub centric for a proper spacer.

j9fd3s 09-29-10 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by bshusted (Post 10241210)
It isn't so much the "thin" lug nuts that would concern me. Even if you get a nut where the hex part is 7mm tall (pretty short), you then have to take into account the 60 degree taper of the lug nut. With an outer diameter of 17mm (on the small side) the taper eats up another 5.2mm. The 15mm spacer is already down to 2.8mm maximum thickness at the tip of the cone. Does this seem like enough material to you? It certainly seems risky to me.

the tr3 things are steel (or iron) which matters a lot, but they are only 1/8" thick or so, and then they cut the lug nut taper into it, so the thickness is small like you describe, AND they are not hub centric either!

Man_in_black49464 09-29-10 06:16 PM

Im with billy on this one that thing is not made for a rx7 its a multi use item and will not maintain center some bumpy roads may loosen lugs and off center it then it will be really bumpy and damaging

openshot 09-29-10 08:11 PM

i got them $100 for all 4. i meet up with the guy who is selling them. he has lots.

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u will have to cut the studs so you can put the rim on
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flight_of_pain 09-29-10 09:20 PM

I thought they were hub centric, turns out i should read the entire add before commenting. Get some centric rings for them :)

Isaac

ricerockettuner 09-29-10 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by openshot (Post 10243275)
i got them $100 for all 4. i meet up with the guy who is selling them. he has lots.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8828/77742834.jpg

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u will have to cut the studs so you can put the rim on
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does he have a website? accept pay pal? i can gift him the 100 plus money for shipping if i can get a set.... thanks

openshot 09-30-10 05:18 PM

nope just go to his ebay and order from there its about $125 shiped he does do pay pal. it was only $100 for me because i only live 1 hour away so i meet up with him

rare70cat 09-30-10 07:05 PM

The rim is not centered on the hub but the studs So why is "hubcentric" a "big" concern? I can see that it might add some strength but our cars are only what 2300lbs. The seller said he has never had a complaint or even had to retorque his adapters after 14,000km. 4 for $125 shipped works for me.:icon_tup:

vj226966 10-04-10 01:31 PM

Wow the mods should combine my thread and this one.


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