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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Question Annybody know what kind of black magic went into THIS!?

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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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That's what I wanna know!
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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It's hardly black magic... It looks like a Cosmo 13B-RE, or just an RE upper intake manifold, with at least a GT42 class turbo and an air-to-water intercooler. It's most likely running E85 or leaded race fuel, and they are probably icing down the intercooler between pulls.

A couple close-up pictures would be helpful for learning more.
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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I know... I'll look for some... Mebbe get lucky, but their site doesn't show this car, at all...

Only thing I've been able to find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggO1SFIRul8
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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That turbo would eat a small cat or dog.
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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LOL, no joke! I'd be concerned sucking in pedestrians and/ or spectators!
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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the black magic ur looking for is lots of money possibly high compression rotors that gigantic turbo prolly 1000cc or bigger injectors
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 01:30 AM
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yeah that turbo in there that sucks up neighborhood cats is the "black magic"
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by durtled
the black magic ur looking for is lots of money possibly high compression rotors that gigantic turbo prolly 1000cc or bigger injectors
If anything I'd say low compression rotors..... possibly with the tubs milled out for even lower compression.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by durtled
the black magic ur looking for is lots of money possibly high compression rotors that gigantic turbo prolly 1000cc or bigger injectors
At higher boost levels (this), high compression rotors are actually worse because you can have less air into the combustion chamber.

Arghx is right, they are icing the A-WIC before the pull in that second video.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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ok so low comp rotors...find it funny they loaded it up with dry ice they prolly coulda made more hp with regular ice sucking up all that co2 prolly isn't the best
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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they probably put a rotary engine motor in it
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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not sure why everyone is amazed at the HP figures being put out. the turbo is what produces power in rotaries, the engines have always been able to take it. i don't doubt that with current turbo technology that people will soon be breaking 800 on pump fuel(if it hasn't already been done), in the past it just requires pushing the engine further on a less efficient turbo which reduces reliability, newer turbos are just spooling quicker and more efficiently. this one probably isn't even running pump fuel which makes it less than unique. look at the 3 rotor engines putting out 1500+ HP... i've already done over 500 to the wheels on a $500 turbo running pump fuel(quite common these days) and it had more to go since it only had a 2 bar MAP sensor, i also didn't want to remap it to go past 9k RPMs(HP curve still hadn't peaked) since it was already plenty powerful and not a dyno queen. imagine what you could do with a $3k massive BB turbo.

race fuel costs money, E85 takes gobs of fuel and not very easy to find in some areas. i like seeing what people can do without, not what people can do with, but that's just me. mainly because most people don't have $40k to throw at a car and if it breaks they have another $40k in backup to toss at it. now if they could just check out the wrecking yards and pickup some turbo mirrors it might be complete.. sheesh.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Thanks, Karack.

I wasn't so much surprised at the numbers, per se, as anyone who plugs around BrapTV or YouTube knows that rotaries have the potential to make HELLA power...

With the right setup... Which was what I was hoping to find out.

Like you, I'm a firm believer in the 'Grassroots' school of thinking where a true test is how much you can accomplish on the very least, not the fiscally inverse.

Besides, couldn't we all just cover our cars with performance company stickers and whoop up on everything on the street?

I hear they give you, like, 5hp per sticker.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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That paint job is worth more that most of our projects. It's not even built to be a show car, so thats how much money this dude has...Crazy project love to know the bill for all of that.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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The hood almost pops off when he lets off the gas after a hard pull. Awesome car but that is not good. That hood will not last long if that keeps happening.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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See what you mean, about the hood... That would suck like Paris Hilton if that **** happened on the Interstate!
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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There are hood latches and locks and can be bought. Whoopdedo!
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Any vids of it actually on the road/track? All I see are dyno pulls.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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None that I could find. I was wondering the same, that's why I posted it, to begin with.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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that turbo could eat a small child lol
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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Im guessing the same kind of black magic that went into this...... (before and after pictures)
Thread from RX8club.com http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=196176






Last edited by ZumnRx8; Aug 30, 2010 at 09:13 PM.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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That is a turbo
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