ok so sence the search funtion is not working im sol to look for this on my own ..so i figured id ask...

my car was fine one day and now wont start...
the battery wouldnt even turn the engine so i pulled it out got it check and i need a new one..
but i have one in it now..
didnt solve it..
i got nothing now ..
its an 87 tII compression test a month ago said 90 90
compression is fine..

i thought maybe fuel pump... now when i click it on to accessorie.. should i be able to hear the pump kick on ? i cant.. i pulled up the carpet and took off the cover even..still cant hear it.. maybe fuel pump ?
( other info... i installed a fuel cutt off and it works and has always maybe that killed the life of it somehow ? just puttin it out there incase it matters )

also made sure all plugs are connected and fine.. and they are and were ...
i duno what else to look for..

please helppp

 

ok so i checked the coil packs as well..and they all have spark...
and i pulled a plug after i cranked the engine .. and it smells like fuel... so it seems like im gettin fuel but i dont hear the pump still

also i checked fuses..and the one engine one in the car and there fine aswell...

lost for ideas please help.. maybe its just really flooded? but it didnt have soaked plugs..

any other way to check fuel ?

 

check the starter?

 

that's what I was thinking

 

its cranking... but its reallllyyy flooded gas in the oil... and was leaking onto the floor...so i pulled the plugs and am letting it dry out i gues...
mazda said crank it with foot to the floor.. and itll start but ill **** up the oil and plugs... so i tried till the barrety died bassicly ahah so its fucked now.. but how can i test the starter? ...i had a dead spot in it once and it made a different noise.. but i guess ill check it.. do i use a volt meter and see if its getting power? or just replace it ..

 

if its really flooded your best bet is to push start it or to pull start it by taking a tow rope from the tow hook under the front of your car to the back of a truck and put the key to on and have the truck drive while you have the car in 1st or 2nd gear with the clutch out so its turning the engine. also have the pedal to the floor and your foot on the clutch so when it dose start you dont go flying in to the back of the truck. this is how i got my 86 gxl started

 

ok well i pulled the starter its gettin power and spinning the flywheel..so i think the starter is fine... i was told to pour oil into the spark plug holes and that will re seal where gas got or something ? so i tried that then ill see what happens.. ugh problems

any more ideas.. i duno about doing that bump start...
i guess ill try one time

 

if you think it might be the fuel pump bang the hell out of the tank and then try to start it if it starts you know the fuel pump is going bad and it should be replaced

 

well i thought it might be but im getting a **** load of fuel so i think that isnt the case, we kinda tried banging it last night but it reaks of fuel in the oil and the sparkplug slots.

 

so it cranks and cranks but wont turn over? and your positive your getting good spark?

 

yea it cranks forever till the battery dies.. but yea im getting good spark on all plugs i checked each one and it would arc to the screwdriver fine.. i think ill end up replacing them after this tho.

 

i kno you dont think its fuel pump but i would really give hitting the tank a shot and see what happens.... because of your car starting and working fine one day and not the next day is a pretty typical scenario for a fuel pump going out.. usually a spark related issue will slowly start to go bad and youll notice it running like ****.

 

I remember back in my FC days that sometime there would be some kind of fuel start up problem where too much fuel would be injected. The trick back in those days was to disconnect the plug behind the crotch vent under the steering column and crank for a few seconds then reconnect it while continuing to crank.

Obviously, this is a work around.

Try reading the FAQ for the 2nd gen. I'm sure you'll find info on a solution there.

 

yea that im assuming is a fuel cutt off basicly.. just delay when fuel pumps when u crank it to get rid of extra.. i have one as a switch but it seems to be fine .. i guess ill finish up trying the oil in the spark plug holes tommrow then ill smash the gas tank and hope its that...

thanks .. ill keep posted..

 

if all else fails like it did for me trust me bump starting is DEFINITELY worth a shot IMO its what got my car runnin and its started every time since

 

alright thats my next step when i get the **** back together
thanks

 

i know this might sound a little crazy but on rx8s the actually procedure for a flooded engine is to put a little bit of windshield washer fluid in the spark plug hole... it helps clear out the gas out of the rotor housing when flooded and the alcohol in it will help start it

 

lol well its not that crazy i guess when i look at other ideas...but i did it with oil...and i just tryed starting it a few times..and i think my fuel pump is gone.. i asked a friend to listen to the pump with carpet pulled up and if they hear a noise let me no and if not bang that ******... and it still didint work.. and no noise.. so i guess fuel pump... i have a kill switch and i was flickin it a few times while trying .. and it almost caught but then didnt..so i guess ill buy fuel pump...

 

so did u get your car running??

 

well since the fuel pump on the sec gen does not come on until you start cranking, you won't be able to hear it so since it's flooding i'm saying no to fuel pump being bad. but when you tryed to de flood it did you pull the egi fuse with the plugs out because cranking it at Wide Open Throttle will only work if its a little flooded so try pulling the egi fuse take plugs out and crank it over for a few then put it back together and start it like normal

 

not started yet... and i am repalcing the plugs i talked to a tech at mazda he said once the plugs get gas soaked there toast.. so i bought new ones he said then itll fire up and i did the pull egi crank it then put it in then try again no go...
he also said .. pull the fuse and crank it till the engine warms up for for like ten min ...
bad idea or try ?>
i dont wanna **** up brand new plugs

 

... haven't heard that one about cranking it until its warm, but you can clean your plugs with starting fluid and a wire wheel to get the carbon off, works for me. just make sure you de flood it before you put your new plugs in. something else you can try would be to let the car sit for a day or two. just out of curiosity what kind of exhaust do you have? jw cuz if its got a cat or chambered muffler and has gas in it once your car starts it could ignite... just so you know

good luck

 

ok you have a fuel cut off switch correct? pull out the plugs dry them off put them back in make sure you got the right wires goin to the plugs. Then turn the fuel cut of switch of so the fuel pump is off. crank it. if it is flooded then it will start with the fuel pump off once it starts turn the pump back on or you'll run out of fuel and stall.

 

u got a tricky car

 

lol i just took off the wiering for the switch sence i thoughtthat was the issue... but i did do that all the time b4 to get it to start so i tryed that.... i guess i will try cleaning the plugs...
and of corse mazda orderd me all leading plugs and not 2 leading two trailing....