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Old Mar 3, 2001 | 12:20 AM
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How much does stuff weigh?

Ever really wondered what stuff weighs???

Detail are at:&nbsp http://www.k2rd.com/FC3S/weigh.html




1989 GTUs rims (two measured): used, both include valve stems and balancing weights = 17.10# / 17.05#
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GAB 16"x7" rims: new, silver, normal center, +32mm offset = 15.20#
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1987 Turbo II stock pre-cat - used, O2 sensor attached = 13.50#
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1987 non-turbo stock exhaust manifold - used = 16.75#
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1987 Turbo II stock spare tire and rim - 24.85#
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1987 Turbo II stock turbo: used, dirty, NO lines except for rubber lines on wastegate = 21.70#
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Aluminum flywheel: used, stamped "MI" (Mueller Industry/Midway Industry?), NO counterweight, NO fasteners = 10.25#
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1987 Turbo II stock flywheels (two measured): used, NO fasteners = 27.55# / 27.40#
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1987 Turbo II stock front brake rotor: used, 10.9" (Mazda spec, NOT measured), rotor width measured at 5 different positions (5 lug positions) average 21.174mm (actual measured are 21.16mm, 21.18mm, 21.19mm, 21.18mm, 21.16mm; +/- 0.1mm) [Note: Mazda spec new is 22.00mm], used = 12.25#
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K2RD Stage 1 brake kit rotor: 12.19" x 1.25", new, two piece steel rotor with aluminum hat, fasteners (safety wired) included = 11.40#
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Racing Beat 3" downpipe: used, NO fasteners = 6.50#
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Nippon Denso AC compressor: used, dirty, no fittings but black plastic caps on valves attached = 14.90#
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1987 Turbo II stock steel hood: used, windshield spray nozzles and hoses attached, all underhood insulation and front rubber flaps attached, 5A blue paint = 51.85#
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1987 Turbo II stock aluminum hood: used, NO windshield spray nozzles or hoses, all underhood insulation and front rubber flaps attached, hood stripped (NO primer base) and repainted yellow = 29.20#


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Old Mar 3, 2001 | 01:06 AM
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Ted, why don't you get the weight of the rear hatch and a n/a hood if you can. Maybe the doors too if you feel especially productive.
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 02:16 PM
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 02:44 PM
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Welcome back Ted!

I guess you guys have the big brake kits in full production now. How about 20B FC front stabilizer bars?

I've been doing a little weighing myself:

Series 4 NA MT Tranny, used (bellhousing, tranny, shifter): 77#
Series 4 TII MT Tranny, used (bellhousing, tranny, shifter): 96#
Just shifter: about 1#

Spearco 2-248 FMIC w/end tanks: 19.5#

Evil Aviator, used, no shoes: 153# Hehehe.

Also, some front end measurements (taken quickly with a tape measure, so they are not exact):

Series 4 radiator inlet: 72 sq in
Series 5 radiator inlet: 87 sq in

Series 4 brake duct inlet: 10 sq in each
Series 5 brake duct inlet: 30 sq in each

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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 03:11 PM
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Um, I don't think Ted is exactly back. Check out the dates on the posts, this topic has really been brought back from the dead.
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by JerryLH3
Um, I don't think Ted is exactly back. Check out the dates on the posts, this topic has really been brought back from the dead.


What a bummer! I didn't realize that there were any old posts left after the last forum crash. I guess this means that Scott and I have to design our own stabilizer bar.
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 04:08 PM
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Weight reduction? I say "Forget it". If you removed most of what he talks about and didn't replace it with a lighter version, you'd gain maybe .2 seconds in a quarter mile run.

I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.

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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by MikeL
Weight reduction? I say "Forget it". If you removed most of what he talks about and didn't replace it with a lighter version, you'd gain maybe .2 seconds in a quarter mile run.

I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.

Mike
.1 second in the quarter for each 100lbs
and to some people, its worth it.
I know I'd be an ******* if I had a T2 w/ a steel hood. But I probably will dynamatmy car if the exhaust is too oud, but I;'m gonna have probly 2 10"s too
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Node

I know I'd be an ******* if I had a T2 w/ a steel hood. But I probably will dynamatmy car if the exhaust is too oud, but I;'m gonna have probly 2 10"s too
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 05:05 PM
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hey

AC with water and PS... Air pump please ... this topic is actually usefull. I can figure out how much weight im saving by taking my steel hood and replacing it with an alluminum. But I have an n/a. Turbo would be 22 pounds. Thats worth it to me.
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by JerryLH3
Um, I don't think Ted is exactly back. Check out the dates on the posts, this topic has really been brought back from the dead.
Old Nov 15, 2001 | 11:02 AM
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i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg

also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc

managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!

1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
Old Nov 15, 2001 | 11:19 AM
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i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg

also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc

managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!

1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
Old Nov 15, 2001 | 11:21 PM
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anyone got numbers for the rear hatch, i am soo keen to ditch it in favour of a lexan/polycarbonate one
Old Nov 16, 2001 | 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by MikeL
Weight reduction? I say "Forget it". If you removed most of what he talks about and didn't replace it with a lighter version, you'd gain maybe .2 seconds in a quarter mile run.

I'll keep my quiet, power steered, air conditioned car.

Mike
Old Nov 16, 2001 | 01:28 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by HWO
anyone got numbers for the rear hatch, i am soo keen to ditch it in favour of a lexan/polycarbonate one
89 Hatch (glass, frame, defrost wire leads, tint, no struts): 48.5#
88 TII 10AE Hatch (glass, repainted frame, wiper & motor, no struts): 50#

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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by fenrir
i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg

also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc

managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!

1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
damn metrtic system lol
Old Nov 18, 2001 | 05:43 AM
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A steel hood is almost 52 pounds...that makes my cry.
Old Dec 11, 2001 | 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by fenrir
i rewired my FC, and got rid of about 14kg of totally unnecessary wires & other crap.
Spare tyre was 13kg
Jack and other aluminium bits were 2kg

also lost AirCon, the unbelievably thick moulded stock carpet (replaced with thin, light durable auto-marine carpet) stock battery for Odyssey 6kg battery...etc etc

managed to cut about 50kg off the weight of my car, and i won't miss any of it!

1180kg kerb weight by 220rwKW gives a quite decent power/weight ratio of 5.36kg/kw. Up there with Porsches! I LOVE weight reduction!
Do you have a how-to or writeup or anything about what exactly you took out and what you replaced it with? Thats pretty good for rewiring.
Old Dec 11, 2001 | 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Node

Do you have a how-to or writeup or anything about what exactly you took out and what you replaced it with? Thats pretty good for rewiring.
I'm with Node, we need details.
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SDG(sound deadening goo) under factory carpet - 25#
Fiber Impact Bars (front and rear) - 12# each
Impact Bar Mounts - 5# each, 4 total on car

These are from memory, I can't remember anything else. I made a list of some items as I removed them from my FP car. I'll get the car weighed before next season starts and post a thread about it. I'll try to remember to get my list of removed items I weighed and post them tomorrow.
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Re: rear hatch

I just pulled the window out of the rear hatch and then removed the hatch on my project. The whole thing is 50#s. The glass itself is 33#s of it. You could pull the glass and replace it with polycarb and have a total weight of around 28#s.

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