zayrx7

It's with every bank and credit car company including Paypal

rx7roller02

Zavier, what the hell difference does it make? Why do you refuse to discuss the points that matter, like the disaster that was this engine in Canada? The worst welding job I've ever seen on a "finished" piece? Stop avoiding the real issues here. I want to know, here and now, what you are going to do to fix these things. No more bullshit. Youve dragged this one as far as I'm going to let it go. Now, man up....

zayrx7

I guess you can't read I said we are sending another set of bins to him, The first manifold was replace to Mitch! If he wanted a refund he should have sent the products back and not sell them and then asked for a refund a year later after he sold them to someone else. Parts are not cheap to make manifolds. I've dragged this! You are the one digging up old stuff and posting stuff.

rx7roller02

Maybe you need a little help figuring things out around here....

I dont need your sarcasm, jack. You want to be a smartass to me? I'll just toss you out the door right now. I've been more than patient with you, and youve been nothing short of disgusting in the way you have avoided responsibility. Yes, you said you would ship him new bins...after how much? Then you complained about the "its been a year" bit. And....? You still WAY overcharged him for the lack of quality you delivered. And for that, you blamed someone else yet again..."that guy doesnt work for me any longer"....but that doesnt matter because YOU OWN THE SHOP. As such, YOU are COMPLETELY responsible for the quality of EVERY part that you ship out, no matter "which one of your guys made it".

The bins? Broken during shipping because you couldnt be bothered to properly pack them to protect the tabs.

The engine you sent to Canada? STILL nothing out of you about the **** poor conditions there....why? If you addressed things with that customer like a man, none of that would need to be posted here in this thread, would it? so yes, YOU dragged this. All you want to talk about is chargebacks...how many times have I asked you to explain yourself concerning that engine? NOT ONE WORD from you in reply...but you sure do love to talk about credit cards, dontcha?! Thats "dragging this out".

I dont care how much it costs to make a manifold...when you as the businessman tell the customer that you will have it made and sent, that customer has every right to expect better quality than what you delivered. It is NOT THE CUSTOMER'S FAULT that your shop wasted a lot of money in materials to make that screaming turd of a mani....it's YOURS.

Old Homestead Steakhouse in New York City sells what many call the most expensive steak in the world....$350 for Kobe Beef. But if the cook takes it off the grill, wipes his nuts with it, and then takes a **** on top, is it the customer's fault that the business ruined its own product?? Jeez, get a friggin clue already.


I know about being in business....Ive been working for myself for years now. YOU AND YOU ALONE are responsible for those costs....NOT THE BUYER. He paid you $2700 for parts...based off of your own website, the parts he got that were usable still left him overpaying by over $900. Then, to top it all off, he had to ship the first POS mani back to you on his dime....he stated that he spent about $150 in the process of sending things back to you, etc, that he should NEVER have had to spend. The one and only reason why he incurred those extra expenses is because you do not give a damn about the product that goes out the door. And you deserve to pay for that.

"it was mig welded, he wanted tig welded...."
"the guy that did that doesnt work here anymore..."

EXCUSE...after EXCUSE....you cost your customer WAY more money than you had a right to. And this is the best you can do?

Multiple people have talked about your ridiculous "service", extended wait times before their parts are even shipped, and absolutely shitty packing attempts, poor quality/broken parts, and even an engine shipped with ALL HOLES LEFT OPEN....?? Are you kidding me?

Theres only one thing you need to post in here now. You need to post your plan to make these situations right with these buyers. Nothing else needs to be said, and certainly not anymore of your smartass attitude. You claim to be a "17 year pro".....time to show it. You clearly havent shown it thus far.

Mitchocalypse

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Wow good to see some discussion here as well.

Zavier I already told you the legal limitation period is 2 years so I actually can come back a year later and ask for a refund. At that point I was just sick of dealing with your crap and needed a break.

You are only losing more money by not refunding me and everyone else because no one wants to deal with a scum bag like that. Get it together already and do what's right.

I have people I don't even know on here defending me an calling you out so I don't see why you even bother arguing. You owe me and there is no question about that. The only question is are you going to man up to your mistakes or just keep stealing from people?

JustAnother7

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^^^ Agree^^ with you and roller, well said!!

But I will be shocked as hell if zavier sacks up and makes things right with everybody that he has screwed over. I tired getting him to make things right with me but after all his excuses i gave up on him.

The one thing Zavier doesn't get is all these well know shops, did not get there over night. They worked really hard and have slowly made a name for themselves, by putting out a good product and standing behind everything they have done and sold.

I do have one question for Mr. Excuses"Zavier"

Zavier do you ever sit back and think about how much return business you have lost with all these people that you have done wrong?

I can answer for myself personally ALOT!!! I have taken my car to another level, keep your eyes on the build thread soon. You have totaled screwed yourself out of thousands of dollars in parts sales and labor. all because you decided to be shady scum bag shop owner.

My personal experience and option of him, is just like everyone else's experience with dealing with him. Unless you live in OHIO, he just plain and simple a low life scum bag, that has every excuse in the book and always is trying to hustle people out of money to keep his shop doors open, witch hopefully will be short lived for everyones sake.

Zavier already has made a name for himself and i quote whats said all over this forum "Crook" "Scum bag" "Hustler" "Shady"Etc.

Great job Zavier on building a company that is know for being shady. should change your shop name to " WE screw you performance"

Mitchocalypse

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The excuses! Oh my the excuses! Every time he had some BS excuse. He even had them over the phone and didn't even hesitate he's a well practiced scammer, I just wish I could have found some feedback about him before I ordered. What an *******.

I don't get how you can knowingly rip people off every day and feel good about yourself when you wake up and go to work again. I can't wait till this guy gets what's coming to him.

JustAnother7

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Ok guys i already see how this thread is going to end up. just like mine did have all the proof in the world of what he did was shady. then ..........

#1 Comes with this huge water fall of excuses over and over
#2 Avoids answering questions by going around them
#3 Gets local Ohio guys to come on here saying how he is this great guy Blah blah blah!!!!
#4 Never sacks up and makes right with all the people he has screwed over
#5 Then disappears off this thread with no responses and hopes it all just goes away

rx7roller02

If I do not see him posting a plan within the next day for how to make these issues right, he's outta here for good. I've had enough of the excuses myself.

zayrx7

rogrx7 was refunded $145.00 Paypal
engine was refunded $600.00 Paypal

zayrx7

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zayrx7

Sent Mitch an message on settlement offer

chibikougan

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Please confirm this. Both parties especially engine?

zayrx7

You sent a payment
Transaction ID: 7SG46500D8728135H

Dear znperformance,

You sent a payment for $145.00 USD to Orlando Rogers.

Please note that it may take a little while for this payment to appear in the Recent Activity list on your Account Overview.
View the details of this transaction online


Amount: $145.00 USD
Sent on: March 12, 2014
Message in your payment email: Here is a refund for the bins

Sincerely,
PayPal

zayrx7

Payment for engine was refund to him a while ago

rx7roller02

Please show where the $600 was refunded to the engine buyer....as I was told, it was $400, and it was not exactly refunded by your choice, if I recall right. Still, you sold him an engine for how much? And it ended up having low compression and was not usable.....not to mention the loose parts, the damaged parts, and the fact that you did not even seal up the ports....to be safe, that engine should be torn down before trying to run it, to ensure that nothing fell inside thanks to you leaving it wide open like you did.

Let's see how much you sold the engine for.....

chibikougan

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Appropriately gloating of what he has while ripping people off.


His huge shop he is pretty sure no one else has ever worked in. Nice shop to be sending parts via green plastic wrap.




Anyone see their car? Might want to make a phone call.

zayrx7

[QUOTE=rx7roller02;11697378]Please show where the $600 was refunded to the engine buyer....as I was told, it was $400, and it was not exactly refunded by your choice, if I recall right. Still, you sold him an engine for how much? And it ended up having low compression and was not usable.....not to mention the loose parts, the damaged parts, and the fact that you did not even seal up the ports....to be safe, that engine should be torn down before trying to run it, to ensure that nothing fell inside thanks to you leaving it wide open like you did.

Let's see how much you sold the engine for.....
PAYPAL sent me an email stating $600.00, I have never heard anything about the engine was not cover. I ship out maybe 15-30 engines a year and they have all been ship the same way shrink wrap 6-8 wraps and tie down to pallet. If the motor was not shrink wrap then that's something customs took apart ( I guess I'm going to have to start taking pics of motor before shipping now). This is my first engine ship to Canada and maybe they took it off to make sure no drugs or etc was in it, I know customs has really gotten tight on shipping. As for the refund it had nothing to due with damage to engine or compression, it was a misunderstanding on the fuel set up. I also recall the engine wasn't shipped out in the beginning is because he messed up the paper work and had to re-do it all over which took a week and when he got it done I was out of the country for 10 days. as for 2 bolt being loose on the fuel rail what does that have to do with a bad engine, That motor came out of a running car that had been rebuilt about 4 yrs ago with 40,000-60,000 and the customer never drove it that much, sold the car to a local kid that wrecked it and I bought it from him. I did a compression on the motor and it was good, after he informed me about the rear plate been broken off and seen it was an auto rear plate I told him that he could use the 2 side holes wear the auto starter hooks up to and install a plate where the started goes to strength the motor to trans. I also offer to make him the plate and also offer to send him another rear plate to use on the motor. After several conversations he agree to do make the adapter plate himself and me assuring him that that motor was good. He agree! I also offer to take the motor back, but he would have to pay for the shipping.
He paid.
$2600.00 for complete motor shipped to him
shipping was around $600 will have to look that up
Paypal fee $153.00

zayrx7

Mitch and I are close on a settlement

Mitchocalypse

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Zavier and I have agreed on a settlement and are squared up.
Everything on my end is good and closed.

rx7roller02

Better check your email again, I asked the buyer to verify and he did. He informed me that on February 11, a reversal was completed in the amount of $400....yes, a REVERSAL. That means he filed for a reversal and Paypal gave it to him. That is not you refunding him money. Thats Paypal taking money from you and handing it back to him.


It was shrink wrapped...but thats not the point. You did nothing to block off the holes in the friggin engine! Spark plugs were removed, and exhaust ports were left wide open. Just because you do something 15-30 times a year, doesnt mean that your way is good. You did nothing to seal off those ports...and you sent this engine on a pallet to a freight shipper....I dont suppose the possibility ever occurred to you that something could end up inside of an engine when you leave the ports unprotected? And then what?

you should have been doing that anyways, at least to CYA.....


They did not remove the shrink wrap. The truth is that this is a **** poor way to ship an engine, and leaves your buyer quite unprotected....


you mean the reversal?? you really need to learn how to tell the truth and stop pretending that you refunded him money out of the kindness of your heart or something.

So wait a minute now...lets revisit the shipping nonsense from you....

You got caught lying to the buyer himself when you claimed it was shipped and held up in customs...and when he spoke with customs, they asked him if anyone was actually going to ship anything because nothing had arrived at that time. That conversation took place more than one month after he paid you....you come in here talking about one week plus ten days, but you say nothing about getting caught lying to him. I wonder why.....


By itself, not much...but added in with all the other problems that this engine showed up with, it says a lot.


Hang on a minute....this is from your For Sale thread:

So....now you dont even know the mileage on the engine you sold? Also. you advertised it with an extreme fuel system, but then you swapped a stock fuel rail onto it, without telling the buyer? wow, thats bullshit....Amazing that you couldnt even tighten the bolts down better....

Maybe someone needs to teach you how to use a tester then....because this engine does NOT have good compression.


So let me get this straight....

1--you sell him an engine that you advertised as being modified....but then you change some of the parts for stock parts without telling him. So he PAID for the upgraded parts to be on the engine, and you fucked that up.

2--you lied to him about having already shipped the engine when we both know it had not yet been shipped.

3--when it gets there, it has damage, loose parts, possibly even 2-3 times the mileage on it than what you advertised....

4--oh, and a compression test shows a peak of 70...

And because of this monumental crapfest of yours, you were still going to make him pay for shipping? Why should he be penalized hundreds of dollars because you lied to him? Doesnt work that way.


The moment you sell something and say "$2600 shipped", whatever the shipping comes to is your issue, not his.

You know better than that...you know full well that both Paypal and this forum have rules against you trying to make your buyer pay a paypal fee. That cost is yours and yours alone.

OH, and you must have done lost your mind....PM'ing me asking me to remove your negative feedback and itrader score? Sorry, not gonna happen. Its not just whether you refund or not, but it's this whole transaction that earns you feedback....and the way you have handed these is just plain disgusting....

zayrx7

I didn't ask you to remove anything I asked you if what Mitch was saying could be done. my post to you (Mitch and I are close on a settlement he is agreeing to have all these post removed and my trade score back to positive is that possible)
I'm not going to keep going on about holes not covered, when all holes where shrink wrapped with nothing exposed to air.
I offer several options to fix the rear plate and send another one, He decided that he was going to fix it.
We did a compression test while the car was running and got our # I know how to read a compression tester.
At no point did I offer to sell him the fuel system, because it was already sold. I told him what was left on the motor and he agree to buy the engine as is.
Again I'm stating the miles on the car not the engine
Really 2 bolts being loose is a bad shipping, the engine was still shrink wrap when he received it nothing got in the motor.

I have refund the bins and Mitch on those parts so this is a closed subject

rx7roller02

First, we do not delete posts like that. The posts were made with good legit reason and they serve to show others in the future how you do business.... that's what this section is for.

Second, there were more than just two loose bolts on the engine. But you missed that too I guess.

Then there's the matter of the "$600 was refunded"....when I verified that you refunded nothing but $400 was taken back by PayPal. Why do you make people ask you the same question a half dozen times before you can scare up the nerve to try to answer?

Yeah, the mileage difference makes no sense either....you advertised the engine alone, not the whole car in that thread...so what difference would the mileage on the chassis make?

I am so sorry that you don't like talking about the holes....but that's too bad because that needs to be discussed. The engine arrived with holes open in plain sight and you are responsible for that. And don't try to tell me that nothing could have gotten in there...you simply have no way to know that.

So....he paid $2600, right? You burned him on a low-compression engine, had a "misunderstanding" about the fuel system....improperly packed the engine--hell, it wasn't even tightly strapped to the pallet! And then you made him chase PayPal to get any kind of reimbursement. You lied about when it was shipped and lied about it being held up in customs.....

And you see nothing wrong there???

EDIT......what the hell are you doing?? I just looked at your fs threads.....you have now listed FOUR different mileages for this same engine...... 20k, 30k, 40k, and 60k.....really???

chibikougan

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None of the posts on RCC will be deleted either I am archiving them now.