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R3AL.CH1CK3N 10-18-10 10:10 PM

wow.. that is why you should go single ;)

mdpalmer 10-19-10 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by R3AL.CH1CK3N (Post 10275417)
wow.. that is why you should go single ;)

lol, you're killing me man... already made the commitment and have parts ready to go... initially I put my car together with the intention of going single turbo. have plenty of fuel and the supporting mods to go with it... but the gain in low end torque and instant throttle response is what I'm going for, I'll let you guys know how it turns out :)

Battle Cat 10-19-10 10:13 PM

Go single turbo!!

TheAbsence 10-19-10 10:48 PM

Do the Howard Coleman twin turbo setup.

DJDINO 10-20-10 12:46 AM

Rear tires for the Vette is about 300-400 each. :(

Spirit Rx-7 10-20-10 05:25 AM

^^^^ rear run flats? :lol:

mdpalmer 10-20-10 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by wan (Post 10272730)
Your spin was awesome! :lol:

How did you like your brakes? I'll go out with you guys the next time they hold an event.

heh, thanks, car felt like it was kind of floating before it spun, my reaction time was so bad, I def need more practice and stiffer suspension :) strange thing to report about the brakes: earlier in the day they would work perfect for the first lap or two... after my first few laps, I could smell a strange odor coming from the car, almost like clutch. not too soon after that I got some brake fade and had to slow down a bit to keep from going off the track in turns. really strange.. even a guy in a mustang behind me told me he smelled something strange.

pedal pressure was fine, no issue there... no fluid leaks, no change in master cylinder fluid level.

pulled back into the pits and yep, the smell was def coming from the fronts. the rotors looked fine, nothing else out of the ordinary... well except it looked like some material was stuffed in the rotor slots (brake pad material?)... I didn' t remove the wheels to check. good news is that they seemed to get better as the day wore on, by the end of the day they seemed to work great again.

I'm wondering if I didn't bed the pads in well enough? there was definitely an issue with friction between the rotor/pad, wonder if I may have gotten something (grease, brake fluid, paint?) on the pads/rotors when putting the car back together, although I was very careful not to. Or maybe my calipers are dying on me and can't exert enough force on the pads... the car was very stable and symmetric under braking (no diving to one side), so that would mean both of them (fronts) would be dying.. but I am starting to think that I got something on the rotors. I will take off the wheels this weekend and remove the pads to inspect them and the rotors and report back.

one of the guys out there had an s2000 who was a very good driver and he was shocked I was using DOT3 fluid in my car... guess I'll have to use the super blue you gave me on my next outing :)

these guys try to do two events a year, one spring, one fall, you better be there at the next one so you can give the vettes a hard time! :D I'm gonna try and have my car running (swapped) by the next event, not on track, but I will probably show up to hang out and go for rides, honestly that's a lot of fun when you get to ride in a 600+ hp car that can not only go straight but handle well too.

Juan 10-20-10 04:26 PM

Your brake issues sound like mine at Fontana. I could smell mine a bit and the brakes werent bitting like they should have. After a quick bedding process, they worked awesome the rest of the day. Definitely get the Super Blue in there. It's way better than whatever is in your car now :icon_tup:

I'll make sure I'm at the next event. Hopefully the Vette guys dont leave me in the dust since I've never driven on this track :)

When are you tearing your car apart for the swap? I could use some of your parts :egrin:

mdpalmer 10-20-10 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by wan (Post 10278426)
Your brake issues sound like mine at Fontana. I could smell mine a bit and the brakes werent bitting like they should have. After a quick bedding process, they worked awesome the rest of the day. Definitely get the Super Blue in there. It's way better than whatever is in your car now :icon_tup:

I'll make sure I'm at the next event. Hopefully the Vette guys dont leave me in the dust since I've never driven on this track :)

When are you tearing your car apart for the swap? I could use some of your parts :egrin:

You'll get the track pretty quick, will probably have it wired by lunchtime. You can drive as fast or as slow or as much or as little as you want, there is that much free time to explore since we only have a limited number of drivers, it's really the way to go man... I will probably never do a speedv or redline event ever again. I really like BW, it's a very fun track, elevation changes, different types of turns, and nothing really to hit.

The vette guys are super cool, the guy who filmed me actually offered to take video of other cars because he wanted to, how cool is that?

Car will start coming apart any day now, either this weekend or next. Have a shitload of stuff to get rid of. I am actually very sad... the car runs great and then I tear it apart, don't people normally blow the motor up first and then tear it up :) I drove the car for two hours just for fun in the rain last weekend after the track day, dirt still all over my interior... gonna miss this thing as a rotary, it lived a very good life, and should serve its new owner well as long as they take care of it.

mdpalmer 10-20-10 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by DJDINO (Post 10277493)
Rear tires for the Vette is about 300-400 each. :(

Really wish you came out... your long lost vette brothers organized the damn thing! :hah:

TheAbsence 10-20-10 09:53 PM

Go single GT35R!

fc3s91 10-20-10 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by mdpalmer (Post 10278974)
You'll get the track pretty quick, will probably have it wired by lunchtime. You can drive as fast or as slow or as much or as little as you want, there is that much free time to explore since we only have a limited number of drivers, it's really the way to go man... I will probably never do a speedv or redline event ever again. I really like BW, it's a very fun track, elevation changes, different types of turns, and nothing really to hit.

The vette guys are super cool, the guy who filmed me actually offered to take video of other cars because he wanted to, how cool is that?

Car will start coming apart any day now, either this weekend or next. Have a shitload of stuff to get rid of. I am actually very sad... the car runs great and then I tear it apart, don't people normally blow the motor up first and then tear it up :) I drove the car for two hours just for fun in the rain last weekend after the track day, dirt still all over my interior... gonna miss this thing as a rotary, it lived a very good life, and should serve its new owner well as long as they take care of it.

I still say " your died to me":lol:. You should keep the rotary and apply more boost. Just like I did.
Later Rob

R3AL.CH1CK3N 10-20-10 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by mdpalmer (Post 10277242)
lol, you're killing me man... already made the commitment and have parts ready to go... initially I put my car together with the intention of going single turbo. have plenty of fuel and the supporting mods to go with it... but the gain in low end torque and instant throttle response is what I'm going for, I'll let you guys know how it turns out :)

That's cool man. Since you already purchased everything it makes more sense to just finish it.

TheAbsence 10-20-10 11:49 PM

How long do you except the car to be out while you swap it?

frijolee 10-22-10 12:11 PM

Looks like a fun day Mike...

I don't think you'll regret going ls1. The wide torque band makes track driving a dream. Single turbo rotaries can be fast but a narrow power band isn't nearly as forgiving if you get caught in the wrong gear.

Robert will give you a hard time but it's mostly in jest. I think he's bummed about how much he spends in race fuel for a track day... All while I'm sipping on Arco's finest 91 octane. :bigthumb:

Did you notice that vette owners seem a lot more kick back about folks doing what they want with their cars? Maybe it's the good old boy roots, but it seems like I take plenty of crap from my rotarded friends where as the vette guys just say my car is bitchin and leave it at that.

DJDINO 10-22-10 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by mdpalmer (Post 10279016)
Really wish you came out... your long lost vette brothers organized the damn thing! :hah:

I wish I could have too man. Work schedule has sucked lately. These seem to be cool Vette owners. You know I don't hang with them old fart, patriotic Vette owners lol. :blush: They are not as cool as the RX7 community. :icon_tup:

fc3s91 10-22-10 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by frijolee (Post 10281583)
Looks like a fun day Mike...

I don't think you'll regret going ls1. The wide torque band makes track driving a dream. Single turbo rotaries can be fast but a narrow power band isn't nearly as forgiving if you get caught in the wrong gear.

Robert will give you a hard time but it's mostly in jest. I think he's bummed about how much he spends in race fuel for a track day... All while I'm sipping on Arco's finest 91 octane. :bigthumb:

Did you notice that vette owners seem a lot more kick back about folks doing what they want with their cars? Maybe it's the good old boy roots, but it seems like I take plenty of crap from my rotarded friends where as the vette guys just say my car is bitchin and leave it at that.

We will say " let the videos speak for itself ".:lol:

mdpalmer 10-23-10 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by fc3s91 (Post 10279064)
I still say " your died to me":lol:. You should keep the rotary and apply more boost. Just like I did.
Later Rob

^^ :lol:


Originally Posted by TheAbsence (Post 10279190)
How long do you except the car to be out while you swap it?

Will be minimum of 2 months, and more likely like 6-12 months to do it the way I want to given budget & time constraints... would really like to have it running/partially completed by xmas this year.


Originally Posted by frijolee (Post 10281583)
Did you notice that vette owners seem a lot more kick back about folks doing what they want with their cars? Maybe it's the good old boy roots, but it seems like I take plenty of crap from my rotarded friends where as the vette guys just say my car is bitchin and leave it at that.


Originally Posted by DJDINO (Post 10282054)
I wish I could have too man. Work schedule has sucked lately. These seem to be cool Vette owners. You know I don't hang with them old fart, patriotic Vette owners lol. :blush: They are not as cool as the RX7 community. :icon_tup:

^^ These vette guys are really laid back, and appreciate all kinds of cars. These two guys in particular are not your typical vette owners in that they are younger (early 40's) and actually haul ass and handle the car if it gets out of shape instead of just cruising the blvd. Two horsepower freaks, the z06 owner even towed his car to the track in a trailer with a supercharged suburban. Nutty.

TheAbsence 10-23-10 01:44 AM

6-12 months? Wow I couldn't be without my FC for 6 months otherwise my motivation on the project would die.


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