Adaptronic Plug & Play Rotary Specific ECU
 

We are pleased to announce we are now the Master US Distributor for Adaptronic. This company has been making engine management systems out of Australia for over 9 years. The head engineer even owns a Time Attack Miata with a single turbo REW.

We've been installing and tuning their computers for about 3 year now, and the units are some of the easiest to use on the market. There are direct plug and play ECU(s) for Series 6/7/8 Rx-7, and Series 1 Rx-8. The Rx-7 units use the OEM connector, just like the PFC. The series 1 Rx-8 has a patch harness, and is used in conjuction with the OEM ECU( handles drive by wire, idle control, and communication with ABS, Dash, and Stability Control). The units come with a good base map, and when a wideband o2 is interfaced with the unit, there is adaptive closed loop feedback. There is also closed loop E85 software built in( requires a E85 sensor like Zeitronix).The computers use a USB port, so you don't have to buy any serial to usb adapters, and mess with drivers etc. They are also compatible with racepack dashes. We have posted a few you tube videos of rotaries in action with the ECUs installed on our facebook; https://www.facebook.com/Turblown. Ric uses one in his endurance race Rx-7, it does both 12 and 24 hour racing @ tracks like the Nuremberg ring, and Bathurst.

There are also 3 levels of wire in standalone s, that can be used for older rotaries, and full blown race cars. All harnesses are flying leads, and available in short or long looms.The top level 1280S has a built in oscilloscope, can drive a v12, or two drive by wire throttle bodies, amongst literally anything you can connect to it( flat shifting, traction control, etc etc). There are more specs listed on our website; Adaptronic Engine Management | Standalone Engine Management Systems | ECU
The best part about this company is the customer service. The lead engineer will work direct with the end user to create a base map, or revise one if needed in a short time frame. Also if there is anything in the software that needs to be changed, or upgraded they will do it! In the event there is a hardware problem( which I have never seen) it only takes 1 week to fix!
We are looking for US dealers, and the margins are very lucrative. Turblown will be handling all rotary sales, and TurboSource will be handling all piston engines.

Retail for the Series 6/7/8 Rx-7 is $1350, and Series 1 Rx-8 is $1439. The e420D basic wire in w/ the long harness( for older rotaries, and S4/S5) is $944.

You can download the software here to play with ;

http://adaptronic.com.au/downloads.html

Bought my Adaptronic 440 Universal Select ECU and I'm so excited about Adaptronic that we became official authorize dealer in the Caribbean and Latin America.

what let me to this? to be so excited?

The FEATURES THIS BABY HAS FOR THE PRICE! Plain and simple and above that COSTUMER SUPPORT! how many times have I seen on the forum people complain about this, COSTUMER SUPPORT IS TOP.

I bought the Adaptronic 440 Universal Select ECU (Yes there is a PLUG AND PLAY VERSION FOR ALL FD3S S6/7/8) from TURBLOWN ENGINEERING, Mr. White is always there for questions I had and even the engineer Mr. Andy was available If I needed on the forums or thru email.

let's look at the features:


"3D" Fuel and Ignition maps (as on any sophisticated aftermarket ECU)
Configurable ignition and injection outputs to suit different applications
Inputs for water temperature, air temperature, auxiliary temperature (eg turbo), external Manifold Air Pressure sensor, Throttle Position Sensor, knock sensor, EGO (exhaust gas oxygen)
Internal MAP sensor suitable for up to 40 psi of boost
Outputs for four injector groups - allows full sequential injection up to 4-cylinders, or semi-sequential injection up to 8- cylinders
Outputs for four igniter groups - allows full sequential spark up to four cylinders and wasted spark systems up to 8-cylinders, or any conventional distributor systems
Eight configurable auxiliary outputs - four of which are configurable as high current outputs, three of which are PWM capable
Eight configurable digital inputs
Numerous diagnostic LEDs, including LEDs to indicate trigger input detection and injector/ignition outputs
3.5mm headphone jack for listening to knock
PC interface via USB cable
Field upgradeable firmware
Datalogging via 'WARI' PC software
Free support by forum and email
12 month 'return to base' warranty

Adaptive fuel control - with configurable tolerances and loop gains, and conditions under which adaptive behavior takes place
Narrow-band (factory EGO sensor) closed loop fuel control
Flex Fuel control (requires fuel composition sensor to be fitted)
High current programmable outputs - allows direct drive of solenoid valves for boost control, air bypass etc
Special function programmable outputs - allows control of anti-pollution purge valves, air conditioners etc
Open-loop and closed-loop idle bypass control - allows configuration of increased idle bypass amount based on low battery, electrical load, air conditioner, as well as correction based on RPM, optional ignition timing control for idle speed regulation
Programmable for many different crank/cam angle sensor waveforms
Open-loop and closed-loop boost control
Dual closed-loop variable valve timing (VVT) channels
Traction control and launch control
Many other features

Yes I just copy paste it from there site, but really if your in the market for a ECU I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE ADAPTRONIC.

finally a plug and play for our fd3s which is high packed with so many features, with the proper technical support. ( even on YouTube can find video tutorials on how to work all the features this ECU has)

I'll stop ranting now haha.... would like to thank Mr. White for all the help and great costumer service.

Omp control?
Sequential Turbos Control?

Yes, and yes.

When using VE tuning mode staging of the primaries and secondaries is also automated too.

One of the things that keeps me from switching ECUs is that my PFC has a commander which acts as a multi-gauge. If these companies had something similar, switching would be a lot easier.

Shellware | Adaptive Tuner for Adaptronic ECUs

Not a official adaptronic app, but it does work.

How would this compare to e Pro-Efi 128? This looks promising I just don't want to go through the work of selling what I have unless it is really going to benefit.

I am curious as to the traction control methods also. How effective are they in comparison to the RL units? I know the RL is supposed to be the best hands down, but I would be curious to hear the comparison.

They look extremely similar. The PRO efi has 2 more output channels, and has a built in uego controllers. I am not sure whether the PRO efi can do VE tuning with staged injection, the adaptronic most certainly does. I would also see if the staging is automated like the Adaptronic, if the PRO unit can support staged injection with VE tuning. Biggest difference I can see is the price tag...

I have asked the lead engineer to comment on the traction control vs the RL unit.

I need and want a new ecu that i can use now but something that can also run a 20b when i decide to upgrade. I was looking at a haltech ps2000 or a link G4...

but this adaptronic looks promising..

You would want the E1280S super computer.

Adaptronic E1280S Super Standalone ECU

This unit will properly run a 20B with both full sequential injection for all 6 injectors, and direct fire for each spark plug. It will properly run a 13B 2 rotor also. It is not a plug and play however. The price tag includes a flying lead wiring harness in either short or long too.

We've just installed the Adaptronic Select MAzda rx7 ecu

This was so easy and quick to install. We've played around in the software and we are loving how users friendly this ecu is.

Here are some photograph of the process.
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I'd be curious to learn more about the traction control methods and how effective they will be on a turbo-rotary.

However, I won't be in the market for a while now as I just got laid off before Christmas.

Here's a video clip of the ecu installation

Hope you enjoy it

Adaptronic plug and play ecu how to...... MAZDA RX7 FD3S TEST CAR. - YouTube

So you changed the sensor setting and it auto-tuned or it was just reading wrong readings with it's internal sensor?

The Adaptronic PnP comes standaard with a 4bar map sensor internal but users have the option to use different type of external map sensors it's up to the user. In this case we have a bone stock fd and we want to demonstrate how easy and also how the adap pnp use all of the stock sensors without problem.

At first the adap PnP was set to read from the internal 4bar sensor but we did not hook the vacuum hose to it. After changing from internal to external car idle fine and also drives smooth.

These days we wil be installing a AEM wideband and demonstrate the benifits.

Hi all, sorry, had to join, get my post count up etc before I could post here.

We prefer to use the Innovate or Zeitronix wideband lambda sensors, because they all output over serial in a convenient form. The Innovate in particular tells the ECU other information such as if there's a sensor fault, if the sensor is cold and so on, so the ECU knows to go into open loop mode in those circumstances. The Zeitronix unfortunately doesn't; it just outputs a stiochiometric reading. Some of the AEM products don't have the serial output; I'm not sure what the AEM gauge outputs when the sensor is not functional; I'm not sure if it just doesn't output any serial data (which would be OK for us) or if it outputs stoichiometry (which would not be good!)

The Race Logic TC device intercepts the injector wires, and if you look at the manual it only has a few patterns of cutting percentages. Intercepting the injection is not as responsive as cutting the ignition, because when you inject the fuel, you still have an entire crank revolution before that fuel is combusted, whereas you can cut the ignition right when the engine is about to produce torque. Also, the Select ECUs can cut the ignition in increments of 1% which gives you a gradual torque reduction.

One of the workshops I do a lot of work with here in Sydney showed me a video they took comparing a RL TC setup they did on a race car (supercharged Lotus), and another on the same spec supercharged lotus with a Motec ECU doing ignition cut. The Motec was definitely smoother because ignition cutting is faster, and it's more progressive.

I need to get my car back on the track; we had an "incident" at Time Attack last year with someone who isn't great at checking his mirrors, and then SEMA and then PRI came along - but when I do I'll be getting the TC going on that. She already has all the wheel speed sensors. She's running this same plug-in ECU for the FD (my car is a Miata but it's the FD engine, single turbo, direct fire 4 coils).

Thanks!
Andy

Andy,

We need to get that To4Z off and Billet TD61 on there too. :nod:

Yep, we sure do!

Hi,

I read the posts in the FD classifieds in regards to the FC and am posting here to reduce non-FD related questions.

Turblown has the "basic" for sale for S4/S5 FC, however I believe Andy stated the FD plug in will work with the S5 FC with a few pin changes and that an S5 base map can be supplied? More important to me than plug-in benefits, do I understand correctly where the "basic" model does not have adaptive tuning?

I'm in a unique situation where there is no one available within 1000km with reputable rotary tuning ability. I'm essentially left to my own devices, hence the adaptive tuning is very appealing to me. I'm definitely not an expert tuner, but have done some basic stuff via SAFC/AFC and RTEK. Is it feasible to expect to buy the S6 version, swap pins, install/initial setup let the adaptive tuning work and have a well running turbo RX-7?

Also with respect to Widebands... is there a list of which will work with the Adaptronic? I have an NGK WBO2 and I don't think this will work?

Thanks...

You could use the 440 ("universal") rather than the e420d ("basic") and then you would have the adaptive fuel tuning ability. The wiring is the same between the two, but the 440 has additional features (the e420d is basically a cut down version to compete with very basic competitors like the Haltech Sprint 500, Microtech and so on that are at the same price but a lot more limited).

The downside with using the 440 or e420d is that you will be limited in the number of outputs available. If you are using the series 5, that has an electric oil metering pump, as opposed to the mechanical oil metering pump on the series 4. The oil metering pump uses up 4 outputs; the ECU has 8, which leaves you with only a few to do things like boost control, fuel pump, thermofan, aircon and so on. So it partially depends on your application.

If you are using the electric oil metering pump, then this uses the spare / external 0-5V input on the ECU for the position feedback. Otherwise you could use this as a 0-5V input from a wideband O2 sensor.

However for lots of reasons we much prefer using serial wideband inputs rather than analogue (how do you spell that in Canada?). The main reasons are:

1) Analog voltages get contaminated by ground offsets (not an issue if wired correctly, but people often don't wire things correctly!)
2) The output range of the sensor is 0-5V, and there's no "different" value for when the sensor is cold, or not functional. Most of the sensors just read stoichiometry when they can't give a correct value. If you're just using it for instrumentation, that's fine - as a human you know when it's right and when it isn't. However if the ECU is trying to run closed loop fuel to a target of 14.0, and the sensor is reading 14.7, then the ECU will be continually trying to enrich the mixture.

For this reason, our recommendation is the Innovate family. The MTXL is probably our favorite because it gives you a gauge as well, and has a serial output - but the LC-1 works just as well. This has the following benefits:

1) They have a serial output, so you just need to provide power and ground, and then plug in the serial cable
2) No analog voltage calibration required, we just read the output from the sensor directly over serial (you still need to do the free air calibration of the sensor the first time you use it though)
3) The serial data in the Innovate stream tells the ECU whether the reading is valid or not; when it isn't (eg sensor is cold, sensor has a fault etc), the ECU goes into open loop mode. As far as I can tell, all the other serial data streams from the other wideband O2 suppliers don't do this; they just output an incorrect value.
4) They're economical and readily available.

If you use the MTXL gauge, when we sell them here in Australia we throw in the serial cable that you need as well - the part numbers are Innovate 3844 for the gauge / sensor / controller, and 3812 for the cable. If you just buy the LC-1 (3769), then that comes with the cable already. This just plugs into the "Serial In" port on the ECU and you select "Innovate" as the serial in function.

We also support Zeitronix, AEM and other serial input formats, as well as various 0-5V formats as well (including NGK) but you can't use those if you're using a series 5 with electric oil metering pump.

Thanks!
Andy

if only there was a powerfc/datalogit exchange credit. seems everyone is selling theirs now, i wonder why....:icon_tup:

Rcieved my Adaptronic plug in select ECU yesterday. Service was top notch! Elliott answered all my questions fully and it seems like and has been an excellent support system! Looking forward to getting the car running!! I've spent some time browsing the Adaptronic Forum on their website as well and it has a ton of useful info on it as well! you guys should check it out.!!
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Does the E1280S have the capability of communicating with an AIM MXL Pista dash?

AIM says they have implemented the Adaptronic Protocol, but we haven't tested it yet. We are sending a unit to one of our Canadian dealers who is going to test it for us.

Modified Magazine will be doing two build features using the Adaptronic ECU. The build features are for a track driven Rx-7 and Rx-8, and will be featured multiple times through spring and summer time. They will also be doing high def video coverage of the tuning process, including several dyno comparisons etc.