Ford Coyote Swaps? Do they fit?
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Ford Coyote Swaps? Do they fit?
I've been doing a lot of research before I start an FD. Ls engine is the obvious choice but theres a lot of hype about the Ford Coyote 5.0 L engines. I've seen the dyno sheets and the powerband is quite impressive. I'm sure someone may have done it but google isn't providing the results for me. Would the dual over head cam fit in an FD? :-/
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I cannot directly answer your question but I can give a little info on dimensions.
5.0L DOHC Coyote
28" Length
26" Height
27.5" Wide
4.6L DOHC
28" Length
29.8" Height
30" Wide
4.6L SOHC
28" Length
26" Height
28.6" Wide
LS1/LS6
28.75" Length
28.25" Height
24.75" Wide
Ford's newest modular is the smallest of the bunch but it is still considerably wider that the LS series. I can measure the width between the shock towers and frame rails in my 2011 mustang is that is any benefit.
5.0L DOHC Coyote
28" Length
26" Height
27.5" Wide
4.6L DOHC
28" Length
29.8" Height
30" Wide
4.6L SOHC
28" Length
26" Height
28.6" Wide
LS1/LS6
28.75" Length
28.25" Height
24.75" Wide
Ford's newest modular is the smallest of the bunch but it is still considerably wider that the LS series. I can measure the width between the shock towers and frame rails in my 2011 mustang is that is any benefit.
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I cannot directly answer your question but I can give a little info on dimensions.
5.0L DOHC Coyote
28" Length
26" Height
27.5" Wide
4.6L DOHC
28" Length
29.8" Height
30" Wide
4.6L SOHC
28" Length
26" Height
28.6" Wide
LS1/LS6
28.75" Length
28.25" Height
24.75" Wide
Ford's newest modular is the smallest of the bunch but it is still considerably wider that the LS series. I can measure the width between the shock towers and frame rails in my 2011 mustang is that is any benefit.
5.0L DOHC Coyote
28" Length
26" Height
27.5" Wide
4.6L DOHC
28" Length
29.8" Height
30" Wide
4.6L SOHC
28" Length
26" Height
28.6" Wide
LS1/LS6
28.75" Length
28.25" Height
24.75" Wide
Ford's newest modular is the smallest of the bunch but it is still considerably wider that the LS series. I can measure the width between the shock towers and frame rails in my 2011 mustang is that is any benefit.
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Just for grins I measured the width between the shock towers on my cars. On the 2011 it is ~36" and on my fox mustang it is ~34". Plenty of coyotes have been swapped into fox mustangs. However, they have to switch to a hydroboost brake setup or just run manual brakes. I don't know the clearance between the LS1 and brake booster on an FD, but I suspect it is pretty tight. I doubt there is room there for the added width of the coyote.
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Will not happen if you plan on keeping the vacuum assisted brakes. There are also oil pan issues that interfere with the steering rack. Not to mention the weight.
Those numbers HAVE to be bare block. If you look at those pics and pull the heads the 2" difference is believable. Add heads and not a chance.
Those numbers HAVE to be bare block. If you look at those pics and pull the heads the 2" difference is believable. Add heads and not a chance.
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Those number for the Coyote width are from the external edge of the valve covers. I just measured mine, as best I can since it is in the car, and it looks like 28" wide. That picture is a little deceiving since it is comparing one of the older wider DOHCs with a ford 302. The 302s are only ~20" wide depending on valve covers.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/downl...Dimensions.pdf
Some dimension info.
Losing the booster would be a must with the brakes.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/downl...Dimensions.pdf
Some dimension info.
Losing the booster would be a must with the brakes.
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Of course one downside of the Coyote is the MT-82 roulette. Mine is a piece of ****, and all of Ford's TSB have done nothing to improve its shifting. Some people get good ones, but many don't. IMHO you would be better off sourcing a T-56 and a bellhousing from termi cobra.
Well that and the used coyotes are still pretty expensive compared to the LS1/6s.
Well that and the used coyotes are still pretty expensive compared to the LS1/6s.
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I have the page saved. I was just looking at it last night....... Sorry for the enlarged pic though. The pic was copies from this thread: http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=14854.60
Yes, it's an FC but wanted to copy it here for reference sake.
And here's a 2011 coyote engine
Yes, it's an FC but wanted to copy it here for reference sake.
And here's a 2011 coyote engine
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I have the page saved. I was just looking at it last night....... Sorry for the enlarged pic though. The pic was copies from this thread: http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=14854.60 Yes, it's an FC but wanted to copy it here for reference sake. And here's a 2011 coyote engine
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Unfortunately, I don't think these will ever fit. It's not so much the height, but you have roughly 30.5 inches between the towers. Given the width of the Coyote, I think you'd have to go with a tubular front end to make it work properly.
I wish I could get one of the flat plane crank 5.2s ;-)
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Coyote is surprisingly not much wider or taller than LS engine and its a couple inches shorter.
It would be tight in the FD and you would have to run a custom oil pan and intake to clear the hood.
This PDF shows Coyote dimensions with a sidebar for other Ford engines.
It would be tight in the FD and you would have to run a custom oil pan and intake to clear the hood.
This PDF shows Coyote dimensions with a sidebar for other Ford engines.
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Yes there was a lot of cutting and welding around the shock tower. Mainly near the base where it connects to the frame rail. I am on my third attempt of exhaust manifolds. I tried to make long tube headers but fitting the four 1-7/8th tubes through the small gap where the steering column and starter are is a little tight. Could be done but looked like the header would have to snake around both side of the steering column and don't like the idea of it. I made a set of log manifolds that worked but they there pretty ugly so I am using a set of factory mustang headers that are modified. It is a motor swap of if you need to do engine work the motor has to be pulled.
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