Upgrade springs without doing the shocks?
 

I was thinking of putting a set of Eibach springs on my car with the stock shocks, but I've heard that's not a wise thing to do. Anybody have any input? Should I just wait and get a set of koni yellows and do it all at the same time? A friend is giving me the springs is why I was going to do it.

If you are ever going to track or auto-x the car, get the Konis. If not, the stock shocks will probably be ok, but the R1/R2 shocks would be better than the touring shocks, with the stiffer Eibach springs.

Ok, I'll wait then, because I plan on doing track and auto-x. Thanks man :)

:bigthumb: I have the eibach/r1 combo and it feels great. Can't wait for the next canyon run. No more rolling :D I was hitting the corner of the front lip on the ground during hard turning :eek:

Ok, I'll just wait then until I order the Konis, since I definately plan on doing track events and auto-x. Thanks rynberg :)

What's the mileage on your current shocks? If they're the originals and are up there in age, I'd swap in a brand new set along with the springs. Otherwise, if you get the shocks at a later time, you're being redundant by having to reinstall everything twice.

Yeah, another reason to wait SpeedKing. I'm pretty sure they're the original shocks, which means they've got 77K miles on them.

BTW, other than the Konis, give Bilstein HD shocks a serious look. They're less expensive, self-adjusting, and a search on 'em will yield a lot of positive reviews. :)

Section8,

As long as your current shocks are in good condition, there is no reason you can't put the Eibachs on them.

I ran last year using the stock shocks with Eibachs on the track (about 70k on the shocks) without any problems.

http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/FD...P/9F9B4040.jpg

I've since upgraded to the Tokicos. I had been using the Eibachs on the stock shocks for about 2 years or so prior to this year.

It's like changing your oil but keeping the same filter?!?
Just the installation time alone is worth more then the springs.
Do them both or you'll reget it.

Well the car certainly feels very solid, I think the stock shocks are still in good condition, and I'd be lying if I said I was willing to wait to do my first modification to the car.

Besides, I need to learn how to do this stuff, and doing it twice (when I do upgrade the shocks) will be a waste of time maybe, but I'll learn how to do it pretty well after the 2nd time.

Don't lower springs shorten the shock life ? And the compression and especially rebound arent sufficient for harder spring rate ?

Anyone can elaborate on this ?

Don't lower springs shorten the shock life ? And the compression and especially rebound arent sufficient for harder spring rate ?

Anyone can elaborate on this ?

Hey Mahjik,

Kind of an off topic question. But, are you front turn lamps removed or are they just "tinted"?

Thanks,

Matthew Walsh

It depends on the spring rate you are going to use. The Eibachs are ok for the stock shocks. Some of the more stiffer ones have been rumored to tear up the stock shocks.

They are just tinted. ;)

Did you tint them yourself? Or, is there a shop that sells them?

Thanks,

Matthew Walsh

These look similar to what he has, but not quite as tinted.

http://www.rx7store.net/index.asp?Pa...ROD&ProdID=804

"Self adjusting" is a pure marketing misnomer. All shocks on the planet are velocity sensitive. The faster you try to move the piston the more force the shock resists with, so all shocks could be called "self adjusting". Bilstein just coined this phrase to put on their shocks but it can be truthfully applied to any gas or hydraulic shock.

The Bilsteins are a good product, but don't always believe the product literature ;) There's no technology in them that isn't in any other shock.

I tinted them myself using "Smoke Tail".

With the $$$ you'll be spending on springs....then shocks....then spring again. (because they will sag)
Just spend the money now and get full coilovers.

Well, a friend is giving me the springs, so the only money I'll be out is for the shocks, and going by Mahjik's suggestion from his own first hand experience, I may just do the springs and wait. Besides, I don't have the money for coil overs, and I think that would be over kill for my level of experience on the track (none) at this time.