Tires - NITTO vs PIRELLI
Pirelli PZero Nero Vs. Nitto
Please explain why you picked your choice! Pirelli Site Example: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....h=true&index=5 Nitto Site Example: Go to www.tires.com |
I have nitto 555r's and for the price I paid, I like them a lot. I have not driven hard on them so I can't tell you all about that but they feel comfortable and grippy.
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Pirellis, man...Nittos are for ricers :)
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Usually, the choice comes down to tire models rather than brands. It is kind of like asking whether Ford or Dodge is better. I would rather have a Mustang than a Stratus, but I'd rather have a Viper than a Mustang.
There are probably some Nittos that are better than some Pirellis for sports cars. But, Pirelli certainly has better tires than any model from Nitto, so I voted for Pirelli. Which brand is better is kind of like Ford versus Porsche. It still depends on your intended usage and which models you are talking about, but I feel pretty safe in recommending Porsche over Ford generally since this is an enthusiasts forum. What specific tire sizes and models are you considering, and why are you not considering models from other brands? -Max |
I said above the Pirelli Pzero Nero vs any nitto!
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I missed the Pirelli model, but you did say "Pirelli PZero Nero Vs. Nitto" which is less than crystal clear.
What sizes do you need, what car are they going on, and where do you need to drive the car? What are your priorities (dry grip, noise, ride comfort, some rain, snow, etc)? -Max |
-Why is that not crystal clear?
-Size 265/35 18 for the Pirelli -Car: Well im in the rx-7 fourms (93 FD3) -Drag race, launch! Why ask for obvious answers! ~Josh |
I don't consider those answers to be obvious. You'll get better answers if you ask more specific questions. You haven't gotten a lot of responses on this thread because you didn't make your usage clear or provide enough information for people to help you make a choice. Not everyone is interested in drag racing, knows you have an FD (versus FB or FC), knows what sizes you are looking for, or why you have narrowed the choices down to the Nero or a Nitto tire. No tire is the best for everything, so it is hard to make a recommendation without that information.
Perhaps drag radials would be a good choice for your intended usage. Smaller diameter wheels will also give you more sidewall, which will be better for launches. -Max |
Originally posted by RX-Racer -Why is that not crystal clear? -Size 265/35 18 for the Pirelli -Car: Well im in the rx-7 fourms (93 FD3) -Drag race, launch! Why ask for obvious answers! ~Josh |
Originally posted by SleepR1 Pirellis, man...Nittos are for ricers :) Read this: http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...3gmhtp_rippin/ They actually turned their quickest lap on a set of Nitto 555R II's...faster than they turned on Kuhmo Victoracer V700's! ;) K |
Yep, I'm aware of the GM F-body and Ford SN95 Mustang owners excitement for the Nitto 555Rs. Remember that one of my MDC members was raving about the Nitto 555Rs at one of my Putnam Park events last season. I also know Jeff Lacina the picture credit guy on the website you posted above. I'm one of Jeff's instructors for his Track Guys' SVTOA on track program. They had an SVT event @ IRP last September, where I instructed a number SVT Ford Cobra owners.
The F Body and SN95 guys love the Nitto because it's a durable tire and can withstand 3700 lbs of car cornering at 1.1 g. The Kumhos blistered pretty badly. Frankly I don't like either track tire for the FD Rx7. Our cars are 1000 lbs lighter than an F body/SN95 and require a track tire that's got more finesse. The Hoosier R3S03 is the hands-down winner in R-compound tire performance for road racing. It's a lightweight tire that provides unrivalled stick performance and handling feedback. The F body and SN95 guys would shred a set of Hoosiers in 10 laps due to their car's bloated 3700 lb weights. Nothing against you, Kyle. I know that you chose the Nitto 555Rs for other reasons (you wanted a sticky street tire that could be used on the strip and track), but my personal opinion--given the choice between a Nitto 555 Extreme street tire and the Pirelli P-Zero Nero street tire, the obvious choice for our FD Rx7 is the P-Zero Nero. |
I have P-Zeros on the RX7 and Nitto *somethings* on my MR2. The Nittos are garbage - sloppy sidewall = not very responsive & don't send good signals as to what the car is doing. The sidewall on the P-Zeros are nice and stiff -> instant feedback - it goes where you point it as soon as you think about it. I love 'em.
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Originally posted by BrianK I have P-Zeros on the RX7 and Nitto *somethings* on my MR2. The Nittos are garbage - sloppy sidewall = not very responsive & don't send good signals as to what the car is doing. The sidewall on the P-Zeros are nice and stiff -> instant feedback - it goes where you point it as soon as you think about it. I love 'em. |
Originally posted by BrianK I have P-Zeros on the RX7 and Nitto *somethings* on my MR2. The Nittos are garbage - sloppy sidewall = not very responsive & don't send good signals as to what the car is doing. The sidewall on the P-Zeros are nice and stiff -> instant feedback - it goes where you point it as soon as you think about it. I love 'em. |
The Thunderchicken test was also using different wheels in different sizes (9.5" Fikses for the Nittos versus cheap and probably heavy 9" wheels for the Kumhos). The article does have interesting commentary, but I don't think the lap times should be compared directly, and they don't really apply to a light car with an independent suspension like the RX-7 anyway.
I am not saying that the Nittos aren't as good or better than the Kumhos, but just that that test didn't yield trustworthy results. -Max |
I bought P-Zero's his time around and there an awesome tire.... The Nitto's are okay but resemble that of the Toyo which is who owns Nitto...
The P-Zero's are exceptional for the street.....If you want a great inexpensive street tire get the Falken FK 451's.....There the best I've had for the cash minus the S02's and or Pilot Sports Brad |
Originally posted by SleepR1 Brian--yeah, my favorite street/track tire is the Pirelli P-Zero Asimmetrico. I'll probably buy a set in 255/40-17 when my current Yokohama AVS Intermediates wear out this year :) |
Hmm I'm kinda partial to the bling bling yellow lettering that some P-Zero Asimmetrico sizes come in :)
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Originally posted by bkapold@aol.com The Nitto's are okay but resemble that of the Toyo which is who owns Nitto... |
Originally posted by maxcooper The Thunderchicken test was also using different wheels in different sizes (9.5" Fikses for the Nittos versus cheap and probably heavy 9" wheels for the Kumhos). The article does have interesting commentary, but I don't think the lap times should be compared directly, and they don't really apply to a light car with an independent suspension like the RX-7 anyway. I am not saying that the Nittos aren't as good or better than the Kumhos, but just that that test didn't yield trustworthy results. -Max |
Originally posted by nocab72 The original Nitto 555R is a true Drag Radial with squishy sidewalls, the Nitto 555R Extreme II is their RoadRace Tire with firm sidewalls that happens to be made from the same compound as their DR's. I'll be running them at Putnam March 22nd, hopefully by the end of the day I'll be able to maintain speeds high enough to heat them up a bit and give some impressions...(my first time on a road course) |
Originally posted by SleepR1 9.5 vs 9.0s? That extra half inch of wheel width helps 3700 lb cars corner better, IMO :) -Max |
I don't see Bridgestones on there. I like the S03's just fine. :)
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Cuz the initial poll maker was too narrow-minded to consider any other tire brands :) Seriously, Bridgestone S-03s are the sh*t, so I've read :)
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