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DomFD3S 07-01-03 08:42 AM

Think air bags are strictly for lowriders? Think again....
 
Think air bags are strictly for lowriders? Think again....

Praxis Air Suspension technology (introduced by Bridgestone/Firestone)
http://www.praxissystems.com

"When properly engineered, air suspension systems can deliver luxury ride and sports car cornering. Recent products like the BMW 745, Mercedes E500, Porsche Cayenne, and BMW X-5 all use air springs to achieve exemplary performance."

A review by Overboost.com
http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=1090

ARD T2 07-01-03 01:34 PM

That's pretty damn cool. NIce find Dom.

Rishie

kyle@insight 07-01-03 03:40 PM

That suspension will NOT outperform a good spring and strut assembly. I'd put it on a cadillac but certainly not a sports car.

daem0n 07-02-03 06:23 PM

You guys should fill out the survey and tell them you think they should market it for Rx-7's in the future ;) I did :P

Cheers! 07-02-03 11:22 PM

i filled it out... if that suspension is corner height adjustable and able to memorize it for each of the three settings, that would be the BLING'est suspension setup i would ever see.

ARD T2 07-03-03 04:54 AM

I just wonder how quickly it will deteriorate

Cheers! 07-03-03 07:55 AM

what do u mean? the air bag itself?

DamonB 07-03-03 08:32 AM

I see 18 wheeled gravel haulers with air bag springs every day on the highway.

RX-187 07-03-03 03:43 PM

There was an FD equiped with air bag suspension setup featured in Banzai Magazine about two months ago.

dclin 07-03-03 10:21 PM


Originally posted by RX187
There was an FD equiped with air bag suspension setup featured in Banzai Magazine about two months ago.
Tom Ngo's 'low rider' derived suspension was designed for style (and style only) no doubt - seeing as how Bridgstone actually intends this for track use, this is of more interest to me. Besides the obvious benefit of ride height adjustability, I'd like an unbiased view on how well it really works though.

kyle@insight 07-03-03 11:13 PM

I still don't see it doing any better than a good spring & shock combo...

daem0n 07-04-03 01:16 AM

I think it could do better than a spring and shock combo because it's filled with air. I mean you have about the same control in stiffness and rebound, etc with both, but when it comes to the ride the air will definitely be a lot more comfortable for the racer ;)

kyle@insight 07-04-03 02:40 AM


Originally posted by daem0n
I think it could do better than a spring and shock combo because it's filled with air. I mean you have about the same control in stiffness and rebound, etc with both, but when it comes to the ride the air will definitely be a lot more comfortable for the racer ;)
I'd really have to see it to believe it.

OC_ 07-04-03 02:53 AM

i can tell you right now, its no good for any high performance handeling. if it was so great, they would have been using it in the highest forms of racing a long time ago.
You have to remember, theres people who spend there whole life looking for somthing better. This is not it.

DomFD3S 07-04-03 09:20 AM

Praxis doesn't claim to be the best suspension product out there.

"PRAXIS suspension systems represent a comprehensive approach to performance tuning. Springs, dampers, bushings, tires, and additional components are concurrently engineered to seamlessly function as a whole. In essence, the systems approach provides professional results that are not readily achievable with the typical aftermarket path of mixing and matching components from several manufacturers."

What they are claiming is that they are providing a solution that encompasses a "total" suspension package as a whole. Their product simplifies the process of having to match spring rates to shocks, etc.

Basically, this is a good solution for someone who wants a smooth comfortable ride for every day street driving, but also wants to be able to turn up the suspension for more aggressive driving, and turn it up some more for track driving. All without the hassle of adjusting coilovers, matching spring rates, removing daily driving suspension for track suspension, etc.

We all know of people who have purchased a suspension package, only to be unsatisfied w/ it. We all like different suspension rates. Some like it when their teeth start chattering. Others don't.

It is still a good offering. While I would not put this product in my car (my RX-7), I would like to test this product. I find it intriguing.


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