That's pretty much any non-track or non r-compound. ;)

True... although some street tires drop off a lot less than others.

The Bridgestone RE01-R tires are the best street tire I've had so far that delivers consistant performance at the track.

I agree. I'm just making the comment that ANY tire which is past its heat range is going to be greasy. The issue is finding the tire's optimal temperature and keeping it there. I would imagine that the Falken's probably like to start with a much lower pressure than some of the others which would probably better keep it within its operating parameters on a track session. For the people who say they get too greasy on the track, I'd be curious to hear/read their cold/hot tire pressures as well as their after session tire temps. However, I doubt many if any of those people typically have that data.

I know some guys who use them and really like them for the price. They basically bounce between the 615's and the Kumho MX's for a street/track tire.

HANKOOK RS2!!!! best by far for stock size.
i have 245/45/16 on my car and they were 102$ each.
I forgot which magazine it was but they came in first place for autox, and did very well compared to Pilot sport ps2, Yokohama Neova, BF goodrich KD's in all catagories.

Ride is good, threadwear is good. I have toyo tr1's on now and the kooks def gripped better. Just one problem with these tires, U need to get them warm before any hard cornering, also it may be alittle hard to find them in 245/45/16 but they are sold in that size.

I've also been looking for something like this. Mostly street time, avoiding wet roads at all costs, very little mileage driven. I'm looking for 285/30/18s, though, and that knocked a few of the taller tires out (RA1, NT-01). So far I've been interested in the A048s, but it looks like R888s will be a better choice, though more expensive, if they actually release that size.

Apparently there's some closeout Z211's in 285/30/18, $173/ea.

http://www.aimtire.com/typ_category....&ObjectID=6651

^I saw, that's what I'm leaning towards, except for the fact that I was planning on getting them like 3 or 4 months from now (car is currently apart, and wheels/tires/suspension is the last step), but that's a hell of a deal to pass up, so I might just have them sit in my room for a while.

Wheels and/or race tires stacked in the living room are a good conversation starter.

I agree with you as well. I think a lot of the "greasy" bad rap that the 615s get is from people who aren't even checking their pressures and just flap off to everyone that they're horrible.

FWIW I use a set of 615s on my e36 M3 to track only with. They're on dedicated wheels that I drive to and from the track with (for convenience it can't be beat).

I noticed the "greasy" attitude (nothing that would magically put you into a wall by the way, if you miss the grip falling off you shouldn't be on the track) when my hot pressures were near the 40 range. I shoot for 38 hot and they love it and I don't have any issues. They're also taking the abuse great.

my car is about 3100lbs and I run 235s all the way around, so I'd think that weight/size available to run on either a FC or FD would be more favorable.

I gotta agree about the 615s the loss of grip with the right pressure is allmost not seen, it so mild. greasy would not be the right term even at higher presures, but they do show some grip loss. they wear much better than most of the other tires spoke about above. the test mentioned above should be reread because its the r615s that have won almost all the test for street /track use. check out the test at grassroots they came very close to compR track tires. the price is very good also. my size is very differant than most of yours I use the r615s in the front the nt01s in the rear. currantly looking for other choices for the rear.

Well I brooded over it for a while, but went for the RE-01Rs. I was nervous about using a z211 on a wet street after 1000mi and because I wouldn't have the opportunity to properly heat cycle them.

I think the RT615 would have worked well also but the track prowess of the RE01R and $117 price at Tirerack sealed the deal.

Dave

hankook RS2, reasearch about it

I already have the RE01-Rs on order. Besides, in every review I found they put the RE01R over the RS2 for street/track use. I think the only place the kook is comparable is some autocross use.

Dave

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ead-page9.html

I have Kumho v700 R-compound tires. And Im telling you that kooks felth darn close to the kumhos.

Potenzas are good too, but for the price difference and comparison with my friend FD with reo1-r's, kook def felt more sporty in dry.