Powered By Max coilovers
I just got my set in the mail today. I will post up a review with some drive time. Does anyone else have a set of these?
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please post
i only heard reviews on the 240sx forums |
I got them. First one with a set stateside. Im good friends with Dan at PSM. love em
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Key Features:
COMPETITION SUSPENSION coilover key features: * Full tap independent adjustments * Aggressive damping range with fast adjust: * Allows you to do 32 clicks of damping change in just 10 clicks! * Pillow ball upper mount on front AND REAR! * Replaceable shock & customizable spring * Super low ride height ability * Billet T6061 lightweight aluminum Lower mount with urethane bushing. * All aluminum components are hard anodized * High rigidity/High precision piston rod design exceeds racing standards * Adjustable to super low ride height * Full thread tap piston and locking collar allows vehicle height to be adjusted independent of the spring preload. * 2 collar wrenches are included. * Light weight T6061 aluminum spring perch and locking collar designed to bear the weight of vehicle * Spring upper perch provides independance between the spring and the pillowball. * Racing spring available to special order in custom Kg (even numbers only) . http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/maxcat/s.../P1020564s.jpg Initial Impressions: I payed for these on Thursday, got a confirmation email on Friday and they arrived at my house on Wednesday. I tore open the box like I used to when I was a little kid opening Christmas presents. The coilovers where individually wrapped in bubble wrap. I could tell right away that they where beefy. They looked and felt strong. I lined them up next to my stock struts and shocks (sorry no pics...) and they where noticabley lower without any adjustment. Installation: My friends recommended that I lower them all the way and then intsall them because its easier to raise coilovers then it is to lower them once they are on the car. I ignored the advice and put them on my car as they where. The installation was very straight forward and easy. I did the front ones first followed by the rears. Loosen the strut bolts but dont remove them. Remove the bottom bolts (dont know the technical name, they where rusted in and took a while to get loose). Secure the front breaks so they dont damage the break lines. Remove the top strut bolts and remove the stock suspension. Install the coilovers (I dont know if I mounted them right...the camber plates on these run diagonally instead of horizontally). The rears where even easier. I used a jack lift to lift the coilovers into the strut towers and then tightened them from there. http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1733/img0387cf3.jpg http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8561/img0385fk7.jpg http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5589/enginehr3.jpg Driving on stock settings: It was pouring outside (typicall Washington weather) so I didnt get to push the right away. I noticed that everything felt more built, stiffer. The steering felt more precise and crisp. I could feel every imperfection in the road. When accelerating and shifting at redline, the car didnt jerk anymore, the back tires just broke loose. I had no traction from first to third gear (lost traction in first, shifted, no traction in second, shifted, regained traction in third). After it dried up I got to drive around with my friends SC300. He has the same coilovers. I was following him and we where entering a spiral on ramp. He took off. I followed. I was in third gear and the shift buzzer came on. My body was being pulled to the side and the car was stable. No loss of traction it gripped the road. Driving on the softest settings: One of my friends (drives a silvia, works at a VW dealership as a mechanic) told me I should run them all the way stock for around 100 miles to properly break them in. I listened to him. They felt slightly more comfortable (who cares I bought these for performance not comfort) but still really stiff. Ive been sliding around on them lately. I can power over in second when its raining out. I actually feel like im in controll with these coilovers (stock chopped suspension felt sloppy, rushed and panicked). It is easier to countersteer and correct the car after a slide and it doesnt jerk after I correct it anymore. Driving on the stiffest settings: Coming soon... Slight problem: They pop at low/parking lot speeds. Ive been told by my friends that I need to tighten the top nut with an impact wrench and others that my pillowball mounts are binding...I emailed PBM and il keep you updated. Overall: I am very pleased with these coilovers! They are exactly what I wanted and you cant go wrong for $1065 shipped! http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9803/img0859hk5.jpg |
whats up with the front camber plates??
more camber = less caster? thats odd. |
Did I mount them backwards?
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Originally Posted by Josh18_2k
(Post 8499716)
whats up with the front camber plates??
more camber = less caster? thats odd. I'm always very sceptical about cheap coilovers, it's not cheaper if they break in a year or two and you have to replace them, or if they turn out to suck and you have to replace them. |
Top mounting holes in front are notched for an additional camber adjustment
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also my camber plates are facing different directions. if you turn them you can add caster and add negative camber. turn yours so they are they are like / rather than yours that are like \
the slashes indicate the top hat. lol get it?. once you change them you can push the coilover back to add negative camber and it will also induce postive caster |
How does caster effect handling?
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caster gives you more camber as you turn the wheel. the more caster you have, the less camber you need for the same amount of cornering grip.
the downside to too much caster, is that it increases steering effort, and i think something else.. cant remember. in your case, i'd rotate the plates 90 degrees, and set camber around 1.5 degrees. as a starting point. |
Originally Posted by Josh18_2k
(Post 8503798)
caster gives you more camber as you turn the wheel. the more caster you have, the less camber you need for the same amount of cornering grip.
the downside to too much caster, is that it increases steering effort, and i think something else.. cant remember. in your case, i'd rotate the plates 90 degrees, and set camber around 1.5 degrees. as a starting point. http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plu...wtopic.php?233 heres a pic. http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_fil...3_p1010134.jpg |
yeah thats martins car, i believe hes around negative 1.5-1.75ish front camber, dont remember his caster though. just remember about the notched holes on the mounting. if you wanna reduce negative camber but add caster those come in handy.
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Man ive had these bad bois for almost a year and they have been through some rough roads!!! man they still feel like the day i got em... more people on here need to try these and stop bashing them, i mean really its a great product that ive had many other drivers drive my car and say WOW what suspension is this, followed by do they make em for my car... so unless you guys have ever ridden in a car with these bad bois just stop bashing them
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+1 I'm rocking a set, so is my best friend no problems to date.
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Does anyone here have these on a FD? I am looking at either these coilovers of the Tein Flex coilovers. I am just wondering if they work well on the FD & if they are a quality coilover? A couple of my friends have 240sx's & they love them.
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ive been rocking these for almost a year. no problems and still super stiff like the day i bought them.
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how uncomfortable is it to use them for daily driving? ive been thinking of purchasing these, the way they deal with damaged coil overs is great!!!
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i got mine yesterday and cannot seem to remove the passenger side stock suspension! i tried a breaker bar Ive tried soaking it overnight and tried again this morning! i think im gonna have to pay to get it done at a shop because i don't have an impact gun!!!!!
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Any More news on these? Been intrested in buying a set. Anyone who have had them for a while have any comments?
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Stiff.
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Bump for a real man's set of coilovers...
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mine is coming in tomorrow and will track them this friday. ill let u know how it goes
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I was referred these buy a s13 buddy (we all have a handfull) but was kinda skeptic on them seeings as they're the only legit coilovers for 1k (I think). But glad to see everyone liking them. Think I'm gunna have to get some!
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just installed mine with a friend. took us 7 hours LOL. mounted the camber plates wrong i had to take tires off again and turn them. rode them around the block and my alignment is all messed up haha but pretty stiff.... didnt set the coils evenly and all the sides are lowered at different heights... anyone know an easy way to lower them without removing the lower struts to turn them?
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^^you can just PM me
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Wait!!!
Does anyone know about the wait time on these. I ran into a guy this weekend who told me these had a waiting list. Is this true. I'll call them Monday, just trynna find out if anyone else has heard this or if it's rumor.
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you have to put a deposit if you want to get a set when they get shipment.
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when i ordered my set almost a year ago they had told me they would do it in shipments... so u had to wait for the shipments... i was lucky enough to catch the latest shipment and i received them in less than a week!!! i heard 240 guys however have to wait months!!!
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hey guys i just installed my new MAX coilovers and could only get -1.5 degrees of negative camber up front max, but my castor was 6mm which is awesome but no camber, is this just because of maxes unusal design where the camber plate is diaganol
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so wait with the coils installed.... which way should the top mounts face: like this / (toward the motor) or like \ (toward the fan shroud)?? and what if they are facing the wrong way? thanks
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hey i was wondering if you guys can clear things up on how they are to look when installed. these diagonal facing top hats are confusing. just wanted to know which way is proper for them to be facing. like the way they are facing for overboost in his picture or like mine in my pix? which is the correct directions? thanks
Attachment 720678 left strut Attachment 720679 right strut Attachment 720680 |
you got it right
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TYVM :) and by the way these are stiff. when i need to replace the shocks in the future i will also swap for the 8/6 springs setup
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what intake is that in the black fc and where can i get one?
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Powered by Max has nothing to do with USA or Japan. The coilovers are made in Taiwan by a company called Windflowers RIGHT HERE.
These are a D2 knock-off design. The same as Pettit, Ksport, DG-5 (Kei Office), Apexi, Megan, Buddy Club, Skunk2, and even Tein. They all share similar technology because they all go back to the original source, D2. Yes some of them test differently, Apexi tests at Twin Ring Motegi. But the history all goes back to D2 which was once a British company. Take a look at this thread for some more information. http://forums.clubrsx.com/attachment...1&d=1235728556 While the $1,000 price tag sounds pretty good, keep in mind this is the damper you're buying: http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_fil...3_p1050267.jpg I don't know much about shock dynos, but if someone cars to have a look here they are: http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plu...wtopic.php?962 |
LOL! Nicely done, GodSquad. Not trying to down anyone's purchase-just be smart and understand what you're getting into-from what/where materials are sourced to why camber/castor plates must align a certain way. When it comes to suspension tuning, practice mentally/write shit down so it becomes second nature. You'll feel so much better at a track knowing WHY you have to adjust something a certain way.
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Thanks for the info I was weighing heavily on getting these as I read these were made in Japan by legitimate drifters who wanted the best bang for their buck. I will no longer be purchasing these and will probably go back to my original idea of getting Tien Flex.
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Tein is made very close to where these are in Taiwan, but apparently there is a huge difference in the quality if the shock. Even their Tein is made in Taiwan they test on Twin Ring Motegi. My guess is they just have a much bigger R&D budget
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Originally Posted by joegallo13b
(Post 10617132)
what intake is that in the black fc and where can i get one?
HKS USA Intakes |
for the rear, whats the lowest setting you can obtain without messing with the preload
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Midnight - This is where i'm at, and I still probably have another 1-1.5" I can go.
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Angels, but u dropped the spring as well no?
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Just ordered mine should be here on monday:-)
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Recieved them today well packaged, very beefy and everything look great. started to install them and unfortunately can't because the lower mounting hole don't line up it is like a few centimeters off =/ I can try hammering or filing down but I paid close to $1100 & I believe they should fit perfect without any modifications. Will give them a call in the morning and see what can be done.
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How do these compare to bc racing br coil overs? Bc is local to me, so I might give them a shot?
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I would go with bc because I was told from pbm that I have to mod my knuckle for them to fit correctly. Don't know what's up with that since no one here has ever mentioned that
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sick coils just order me a set cant wait to get them
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Love mine, I got the new version about six months ago and am extremely impressed with the quality and ride. Definitely stiff, but not jarring or uncomfortable. Excellent daily/track coils.
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