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The Official FC Wheel Fitment Thread

Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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i want to say first off, yes, i looked through every page in this thread. yeah i know i need to get a life.

i have a 5 lug which i want to put some 18x8s on. It's lowered on tokikos and racing beat springs. I want to run 235s but i read that it will rub. so i'm looking at 225/40/18 +30 from my understanding. I wanted to see if anyone had a hi res pics of 225s on a 18x8. I'm afraid of it having the stretched look because that's not what i want. i want more of a flush mount. every picture that i've seen that fits 225s under stock fenders is either a far away shot or it doesn't say what kind of suspension it has. if anyone has a close up picture of a lowered car with 225/40s on 18x8s with a +30 offset would be great. i know it's a long shot but i hope someone can help me. any positive feedback would be appreciated.

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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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Actually, I've been meaning to update this thread on my set-up...
It seems like my 17" x 8.0" with the 235 / 45 / 17's does clear the fender lip...barely.
Running 225's should easily solve this problem.
The tires SLIGHTLY rub the inside fender liner upon heavy compression or extreme steering lock.
The 225's, again, should help here also.

So I think my original recommendation with the slightly shallower offset should help in this case, but it might require some fender rolling.
I think the fender rolling is just the lesser of two evils.


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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Hi guys,

Haven't posted on these forums for a while now, kinda lost interest in my car and let it sit in the garage, but i've now found some enthusiasm and felt like bringing it out again.

Ive come across some nice rims which have good rubber on them and couldn't say no, the price was very good. It will at least give me that feeling that i've changed the car in some way for a fresh start... that and i ordered new custom number plates too

Will these rims bolt up to my FC ok:

17 x 7 +38mm offset

Tyres are 235/40/17

So what do you guys think.

Here is a pic of them:



Not bad hey.. i was going to go 19" but its impractical, expensive tyres etc...

btw. I have tein coilovers in the car so inner guard will be fine.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ol-Skool
btw. I have tein coilovers in the car so inner guard will be fine.
I doubt it. I'd say if you run a 215/45 in front it will fit, but not a 235... maybe a 225.

235/40 is too wide for a 7 inch wheel anyway. shouldn't be mounted on anything narrower than 8.

of course, this all depends on which tire your going to be running... (i.e., 225/45 potenza S-03 is WIDER than a 235/45 hankook HRII) but in most cases the above should be true.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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I have 6mm spacers at home aswell if need be... the only concern i have is the tyre hitting the outer guard/lip.

I guess i have to just try them on.

Ive seen pics of the wheels with tyres and they look good to me, not bulging out over the rim. I have been running 245's on a 7 inch rim at the back for a good 2 years now with no issues.

Say i put 205's on the front then this rim and offset will be good right? Thats only if the 235's wont fit. I have a spare pare of 205's lying around.

Is the stock offset of FC's +40mm?
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Yeah, I think a 235 wide is too much tire for a 7.0" wide wheel.
Check the tire manufacturer for their recommendations or talk to the tire shop themselves.

Yes, stock US-spec Turbo II wheels are 16" x 7.0", +40.

I'd recommend to drop down to a 225 / 45 / 17 with those wheels, and it should be okay.
The spacer you have is a little too thick, and if you can drop down to a 3mm thin one, that should take care of any inside clearance problems you will run into.


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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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Thanks for your replies.

I will find out tommorrow after work either way.

For the back though, these wheels and tyre sizing that i have stated will be ok? Is it just the front i should be concerned about?

As for the +38mm offset, this is not too bad for an fc as a rule as long as the tyres dont get too wide?

Like i said i have some 205 tyres i can throw straight on the rims if need be. I assume 205's will be a breeze and sit in from the outer lip/guard.

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ol-Skool
For the back though, these wheels and tyre sizing that i have stated will be ok? Is it just the front i should be concerned about?
Yeah, rears have a LOT of space; you don't need to worry about the rears.
Yes, it's the fronts that you need to worry about.


As for the +38mm offset, this is not too bad for an fc as a rule as long as the tyres dont get too wide?
Depending on wheel width...
Check out my chart...
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/MODS/RT/rims.htm


Like i said i have some 205 tyres i can throw straight on the rims if need be. I assume 205's will be a breeze and sit in from the outer lip/guard.
Yep, 205's should be no problem.
Only problem with the 205's is that they tend to be a little smaller than stock.


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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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Heres pics i took of 17x8.0 +35 225/45 tire.

stock suspension,
before I installed tein super drift coilovers.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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205's will do for now though, when i chew through them ill get maybe 215's or 225's.

Obviously ill wait to see how the 235's sit.

I dont want to run heaps of camber like i used too.. I had no problems with the tyre rubbing on the outer guard lip when i ran neg 4.5 camber! LOL

I just want to be able to drive on long cruises and not worry too much about wearing my tyres out too quick. Im running neg 2.5 camber now, though still a decent amount, its not too bad. Though my tyres on my current VOLK 17 x 7's with 205's just rub on the front guard lip. Totally wrong offset, think the rims were on a skyline. Ill have to check the offset that are on the rims i already have. One thing i forgot to check. But whatever they are, i have a 6mm spacer in there from the previous owner. I have assumed he put it in there for a reason, must have either rubbed the strut or couldnt turn full lock.

The more i look at that rim the more i want it!
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Akagi_Red_Sun
Heres pics i took of 17x8.0 +35 225/45 tire.

stock suspension,
before I installed tein super drift coilovers.
Well that fits ok with the standard suspension, as long as there is at least couple of mm between the strut.

You have that with 225 tyres and a +35 offset, so mine will sit in 3mm closer to strut but i have the teins..

i'll have a 235 tyre.. hmmm... i feel its going to be damn close actually.

Maybe if it does run close i could just get some 3mm spacers to replace the 6mm spacers i already have, if it comes down to it, then i might be able to keep the 235 tyres.

How does your tyre sit on the outerguard... does it still sit in from the lip??
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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Even though those 225's clear in the pics, under compression they might still rub due to the tire being pushed up into the fatter part of the spring.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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hey would a 17x8 with a +39 offset fit on the front of an fc???
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7legend
hey would a 17x8 with a +39 offset fit on the front of an fc???
No.

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Akagi_Red_Sun
Heres pics i took of 17x8.0 +35 225/45 tire.

stock suspension,
before I installed tein super drift coilovers.
What kinda wheel?
What type of lip profile?

What brand tire?


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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ol-Skool
Totally wrong offset, think the rims were on a skyline. Ill have to check the offset that are on the rims i already have.
Which Skyline?
A BNR32 is just about perfect.
Stock, they run a 16" x 8.0", +30.
The later R33 and R34 Sylines run at least 9.0" with deeper offset - these won't fit.

So anything that'll fit an R32 should fit in front of an FC3S.


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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
What kinda wheel?
What type of lip profile?

What brand tire?


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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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anyone with a pic of 225s on a 18x8?

Thanks.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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What a nightmare i had today.

I dont know how people fit rims to the front of their fc's. The rear was beautiful, 9" rim was no problems!

But the front!!!!!!! F*CK ME

I had the nicest rim in both 18 x 8 with 30 and 35 offset... both hit the strut!!! We are talking about rim hitting without a tyre on the rim.

Here in australia ive seen many fc's with 19 inch rims.. I dont know how they do it!

Any more offset and the rim would be sticking right out the guard.

I think the only thing i will be able to do for the front is get a custom 18 x 7 inch rim made up!!!

Im so confused, im running tein coilovers aswell...

Going by your chart RETed 18 x 8 with a 30 offset should be fine with stock suspension! I cant even run it with coilovers.

Ive stepped back after today and hate cars again. Such a f*cking headache. I think what ill do is leave my 17 x 7 inch rims on the front, just go to a panel beater and get the lips of the guards rolled and leave it.

On the back im running 17 x 8 with a 245 tyre.. i thought it was a 17 x 7 on the back but i was wrong.

grrr.

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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Man, something just isn't right...

What size tire was on that 8.0" wide wheel?
I've got a 235 on my 8.0", +30 up front, and it fits fine - see pics from my recent reply.
If the tire width is 245 or wider, then I can understand it'll hit...hell, you said you tried fitting with NO tires!

What kind of shocks / springs are you running up front?
If it's a stock replacement, it should've be a problem.
My Ground Control coilovers actually eats up clearance due to the bottom adjustable spring perch!
With stock shocks and springs, you get more clearance!

What kind of wheels were they?
Do you know the lip profile?


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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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So to my understanding you can fit an 8 inch up front with lowest offset being about +30 and a 225 tire?

What is the offset and tire size on the rear to run a 9"? All stock suspension

edit: both being 17's
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Thanks for your reply RETed.

I didnt even get to the stage of trying the rims with tyres, there was no point when it was hitting on the rim.

All i know from the previous owner is they are tein coilovers, im unsure of the model of teins though.

Getting under the car yesterday and looking at how the struts bolt up to the discs etc, there doesnt look to be a huge gap between them. I dont know if they are a straight standard bolt up or the previous owner has mounted the coilovers custom to make them fit. I would assume you would buy suspension made for your car... and it should not change the offset.

Do all you guys already have your lips rolled?

My current wheels do bolt up ok and seem to sit under the guards ok... a guy came to my house the other day and said "They look pretty good, i dont see how they are hitting the lip because they sit in from the guards"...

All i can think is that ive done it reversing with full lock or something and did it out of a steep driveway or going around some tight corners and hit a bump where the guard has gone down and on the rebound the tyre has grabbed the lip and pulled it down.

Going straight it cant hit the lip.

When i get some money and time im going to lip the front guards and get them fixed of the paint cracks from the lips being hit.

I wish i had the energy and money to throw on some wide fenders and nice kit.. then id get some crazy rims under there!
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Boost_inthebox
So to my understanding you can fit an 8 inch up front with lowest offset being about +30 and a 225 tire?

What is the offset and tire size on the rear to run a 9"? All stock suspension

edit: both being 17's
I wouldn't go below +33 on an 8.0" wide with sa 225 wide tire.
We run this combo right now, so we know it works.

9.0" in front?
Depends on tire...
With a stretch, I'd keep the offset +20 or less...


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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
I wouldn't go below +33 on an 8.0" wide with sa 225 wide tire.
We run this combo right now, so we know it works.

9.0" in front?
Depends on tire...
With a stretch, I'd keep the offset +20 or less...


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Appreciate it! I meant 9" on the rear though


Off the wall question but could these sizes still fit with Tein S Tech springs? I don't think they are and wider than stock but I don't want any rubbing when it all comes together. I need to stop being so lazy and get out and measure myself lol
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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If I have a 17x8 +40 wheel and I want to run 235/45/17" tires up front, how would I make this work; spacers, wider fenders....? Also, I have a set of wheels 17x8+30 and 17x7+30. What would be the best sizes to fit on them for a car that puts down between 250-300hp? I was thinking 245/45/17 and 225/45/17 but if someone wants to correct me...
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