Going crazy over pads...Need FD advice
 

Hey guys,

I barely talk on the forums, as it has all the information you'll ever need using the search function, but when it comes to brake pads it seems to have and at the same time dont have information at all. All you see is random stuff but nothing concrete and i've been researching a week for this and im going crazy.

I need advice on wich brake pads to get. I do normal street driving on the weekends only, 2 or 3 hard 1-4 WOT here and there and basically that's it BUT i do go to ''fun'' track days wich i basically do 2 sessions of 5 laps. By fun i mean its just a few fun laps enjoying my car and driving it like it was meant to be driven but nothing serious or competition type of thing.

I was almost gonna go with Hawk HPS but just read a post from Mahjik from 2-3 years ago that said that they'r dust is corrosive and will damage my wheel finish, HELL no to that, but then i read other post of people who have used them for years without a problem. Hence im going crazy.

Hawk HPS?, EBC Green/Red?, Bonez? Bobcats? Street pads that wont be in the metal if i do 2 sessions of 5 laps (like i have read the EBC end up) and wont mess my rotors or kill my wheel/car paint finish. Sorry for the stupid long post and for my english.:)

The brake dust on the HPS isn't bad. I'd wash your wheels and car after a track day/weekend if you are that concerned about it. The HPS isn't going to give you as much braking force as some of the more aggressive pads, but it's a trade off as the more aggressive pads will give you more brake dust. My experience with the HPS are they are comparable to stock pads. I run HP+ or comparable other brands on most of my street cars. Dust is a little more, but it's not hard to tell when you need to wash your car/wheels. I think the brake dust does bad things when it has a chance to sit on the wheels for extended periods of time.

Maybe a little dated, but some info you might be interested in here:
-----> http://www.rx7.org/Robinette/brakes.htm#Brake Pads

Also, just to be sure your aware, there's a section more specific for brake related questions. If you haven't searched there yet, you might find more info:
----> https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/

Finally, you may just want to consider two sets of pads so you don't have to compromise. A set of track-specific pads and a set more suited to the street. Once you've changed them a few times, you can swap them out in just a few minutes.

Sgtblue, of course i searched the tire/suspension/brake section along with 3rd gen. Still just random ideas, nothing concrete.

Have used Hawk+ and EBC, red Stuff, and both dust, and both get washed off, I have powder coated wheels so I don't see any corrosion, but my rotors actually have a small groove in them over time. 2 track events and 3-4 Years of Driving on the weekend, so sort of like your use, and I'm more afraid that the Brembro Rotors will go on me than the dust on my wheels.

After all rear ending some guy because your pads are weak, will put a whole lot more dust on those wheels than using them and being able to stop.

As I understand it, high performance brake pads are generally based on a ferro-carbon chemistry. Organic and ceramic just don't reach the same performance levels. That ferro stuff is what can stick to a wheel and rust. If you remove it promptly I don't see how it would be a problem, but removing it does get old. You can apply tricks like spraying stuff on the wheels to prevent the dust from sticking.

I've found the HP+ to be reasonably good at dual-purpose work, as long as the track laps are not too intense. "Intense" depends on the track, temperatures that day, grip of your tires, and how you drive. HPS's are more streetable and more likely to be trashed on track.

You won't find many universal recommendations because everyone's experience is a bit different. What one person finds to be "durable" and "long lasting" may melt in a single track day for another.

David

i just installed Endless SS-S pads all the way around with some SakeBomb Garage stainless braided lines and i'm loving it.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0376_large.jpg

more info on endless' lineup here:
http://www.endlessusa.com/brakepad/

I have always had good results with Axxis pads. I am able to run them on the street with little worry of cold stops though you do need to be careful in the rain because the water keeps the rotors cold and highway stops can be slow. I am also able to run them on the track with minimal fading however I'm not very aggressive on the straights because I like the twisties better.

I am giving Project u pads a try next though and would love to try Endless as well.

Run Hawk HPS pads or HP+ pads if you want a more performance oriented pad. On street tires HP+ will be about all you need.

Endless MX72s front, Endless SS-Y or CC-A rear.

You won't go back to any other street/track compound again.