Choose My New Rims (FD3S)
 

HI everyone, just looking for some opinions on which rims I should get for my car.
I know they aren't much but from doing my research these seem like the nicest and best ones for the price. I would get something better, but I just got volks for my supra so a little set back on cash.

I know that I prbobably should have posted in the rims section, but there's a lot more volume here to get more opinions.

My choice from day one of searching for rims were the XXR 521's (black with chrome lip). Everything seems good about the rims there is just one thing that's making it a hard choice for me. The rears have a deep dish step-up lip, so they kinda looks like they are 17's. The offset is pretty aggresive and I have experience with fender rolling I'd roll my own fenders.

If not the XXR's, the next 3/4 rims I was looking at are all pretty much the same, they just weigh a bit more.

does weight really matter that much? I never really thought about it.




XXR 521:

18x8.5 +30 offset
18x10 +25 offset

they weight roughly 22/23 pounds


ADR m-classic: or ADR m-sport or Stern ST7/ST8

18x8.5 +32 offset
18x9.5 +25 or +35 offset

these weigh a few pounds more (around the 26/27 mark I think).


thanks in advance, I'll be looking buy a new set within two days.

note: rims I will be buying will be black with chrome lip only, to match me black 1994 FD3.


xxr,:
https://img651.imageshack.us/img651/...3460712441.jpg

adr m-sport:
http://www.adrwheels.ca/gallery/adrmsport93rx7.jpg

adr m-classic:
http://www.xrims.com/imgs/dynamic/mags/big/SANY0003.jpg

stern st8:
https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467...4e0e71dc_b.jpg

anyone? :D

it's hard to pick :blush:

I'm starting to lean towards the stern st8's. (they look clean and nice with a fairly big rear lip).

adrm classic

they all look like they would be a pain in the ass to clean!!! but i would go with XXR cause they resemble BBS LM's

None of the above? Go used and get yourself a nice quality set of wheels for the same price these are new. Check out our classifieds, zilvia.net, my350z, g35driver etc etc

Why mount junk knock-off brand wheels on your FD3S?

I agree with Bryan, look into some used BBS, Volk, Advan etc before considering ADRs and XXRs. You don't own a 240sx or Civic.

I agree with them^^^^

But if i were to chose from what you listed i would go with xxr or stern

Failmax = Fail. Buy some used quality wheels or some RPF1 or PF01s before that. Leave this crap to the ricers.

well I have a 20% discount card from this place I'll be buying them, so if a set costs 500 it'll be 400 for me.

Some lower brand rims are underrated. I know sportmaxx has made some crappy ones in the past, but not all are crap. These 521's for example are good quality rims for the money. Yes volks, works, etc are "better" quality, but that doesn't mean these lower end brands aren't "good enough" quality, you don't always need the best.

That's why I'm starting to see lots of Lexus, Supra's, G35, 350Z, etc with these rims (xxr, sterns, etc). And I'm not talking about the brand as a whole but rather specific types of rims like these xxr 521's.

lots of car guys just have an ego that better brand means good, lower end brand means crap... it's true in most cases, but its not like that all the time.

And why some people spend 4k for rims just for driving around town? well of couse if you got money why not, I'd get better ones also... But I invest a specific amount into cars per year and the rest of the money goes towards other priorities. Even if I was buying used "better brand" rims, it doesn't really do much for me.

you'll obviously disagree with what I say but w/e, was just looking for opinions on these specific rims and I got them I guess. Already ordered a set of the 521's today.

ill help you out. on a positive note id go with the xxr rims

i use to want the msports when i had my 8 but ive grown far apart from them........ i dont like the arc the mesh has

I dont have a big problem with alot of the cheap cast one piece wheels that have decent weight, I understand saving some money and still getting good fitment, ect. The thing that bugs me is all of the wheels you listed are knock off's of high end multi piece wheels, those bolts around the face are fake. I just dont separate one type of fake from another, to me its just as bad as wanting to stick M3 fender vents and gt-r badges on your car.

i love the flat black xxr 521 but i dont think they will fit with those offsets. just waiting for someone to put some on to see how the fitment is.

the 8.5 will fit. the 10s are questionable. depends how much work you wanna do.. with a fender roller, it opens up endless possibilities

If you are going with cheap knock offs, I would pick the Sterns. They look somewhat original at least, unlike the rest. The ADR and XXRs look like common cheap BBS knock offs.

Sterns used to be a a Japanese company until the name was bought out by an American company called Golden Apple which also produces ADRs anda bunch of other knock off brands. Stern used to produce great wheels before the name was bought by the US company.

EDIT: Oh well, looks like you already decided.

XXR ftw

check pm

if you take away the fact that they may look similar or identical to an upper end brand, that doesn't make them cheap shit... these xxr 521's I got are actually pretty light and nice wheels, I'm not really a brands person, just if the price and quality is right, that's all that matters. Cheap doesn't mean bad.

Im thinking about getting the same rims for my FD. I was a little curious as to how those 18x10 rears fit with only a 25mm offset.

Do you have any pictures of the rears wile on the car? I would love to see how it looks with only a 25mm offset. I just dont see how it can look proper without a 40+ offset.

Also, where is the cheapest place to get them?

Have you even mounted them on the car? Run them for 10,000 miles and then talk to me about how they're comparable. How can you talk about quality at this stage? Give me a break.

I've heard you can get them on ebay for $90 each. 18x10 +25 doesnt fit on an FD. Maybe you can stretch a 215 on them and they might :lol:

I'm tempted to close this thread just out of the sheer stupidity exhibited thus far.

My 25 cents
 

My man in my opinion you should pick wheels that feel right for your car and suit your taste however after a while you will see an FD or another car with bomb ass wheels that are more expensive that you will eventually buy. On that note you should take your time in selecting shoes for your FD because the wheels that you put on your car are the most important besides motor reliability.

peace

My man Goodfella, don`t bag on the Honda`s too much

17x10 +35mm w/235/40/17 on the front
17X10 +25mm w/255/40/17 on the rear



17x10 +35mm w/235/40/17 on the front
17X10 +25mm w/255/40/17 on the rear

pics never showed up but there is a pic of 10 +25 in the rear and they seem to fit

wow a lot of help come from here..and fds are now selling for less then 240sx and civics now days so whats the big deal. closing the thread what a horrible comment. if you can find them for 90 please let me know.

and to the OP yes you can fit a 18x10 25 offset on a FD with a 245 or 255 tire..its been done..Also you own your car they don't..they might own a car that LOOKS like it but it is not. Do your own thing. Fd's are old and are not worth much anymore whats the point of buying over priced wheels??

more then half the people here on this forum have Knock off body kits, crappy fitting hoods, and fake headlights, yet they complain about wheels ..i've seen sport max wheels save a guy with a miata from falling off a cliff while we were running canyons.

ive been looking into the xxr's myself but the 006's. i dont have tons to spend on rims/tires. but want to make sure the lower then regular offsets will fit. get what you think looks nice and fits your budget.

Hi Adam,

over the years I've helped hundreds of people on this forum, giving up a ton of my time to give informed advice on everything from turbo sizing to wheel/tire setup and engine internals. I'm glad you bumped a four month old thread to thump your chest like a real man. Rawr! :icon_tup:

I stand by my earlier comments..... but to each their own. We each are entitled to our opinions, no matter how misguided or ignorant ;)

Btw, now that you've got my attention your custom user test (about midgets giving head) is completely against forum rules, change it to something less offensive.

well you gave out info that was wrong..and someone corrected it, so the 4 months shouldnt be a issue for a bump. Good info was giving out. No chest thumping just good doing. Also my midget thing has been there for 4 years and no one has ever said anything, but i changed it just for you cause i wouldn't wanna be kicked off or be "closed" on this forum. We all help each other here and that what i did.:icon_tup:
so if anyone googles this they will know it can fit the wheels that is

^^Sorry, but 18x10 +25 is NOT ideal FD fitment, and with the *correct* tire size, it doesn't fit. Go run a 285/30 on those wheels and see what happens.

Of course, now that FDs are so cheap, there's no need to mount quality wheels on them, so people may as well just slap whatever the hell they want on there :lol:

Well, I don't think there is a "CORRECT" answer to this as 17 or 18 x 10 + 18 to a + 25 offset been done a few times on the rears of a stock fender FD with a roll or a mild pull with 255 or 265 tires. This is with roughly 2 degrees of negative camber (which is what is recommended anyway for a light RWD car for street/track duty use). Tire fitment really does depend on the size/profile and BRAND of the tires as well. Some run wider for similar sizes than others. This is somewhat the case with Yokos and Dunlops as to what I have seen. So a 255 Z1 Star spec could be comparable to say a 265 in a cheaper brand tire. If it has to be done right, quality equipment spec'd to the particular application is the way to go. If he isn't making over 450 horsepower, he definitely doesn't NEED 285s out back, and definitely not if he likes the car to rotate more at the limit.

I think when camber settings (or tire size) become fitment tools, the "fitment" is bad.

That's fine, it's your car, but I'd like to see an end to all these "19x12 -15 Will it fit?" threads. No, it won't fit. You know this. What will fit on this car has been established for a decade. You can, however, use it if you're willing to do a whole bunch of stuff that'll make your car run like ass. If that's what you're willing to do, why bother asking? Just buy what you want to buy, and do what you need to do. Anything will "fit".

As far as buying shitty cheap wheels for your car, again, it's your car, and you have to do what you can afford to do. However, don't justify putting crap on one of the seminal performance cars of last two decades by saying they are "cheap and not worth much anymore". Firstly, I don't see what that has to do with anything, but second and more importantly, that's partially WHY they don't cost much or aren't "worth" much anymore... because people don't show them any respect and treat them like a piece of garbage.

You show me a 20+ year old car that still worth good money (and there are plenty), and I'll show you an ownership base that loves and respects them for what they are.

Well said :icon_tup:

Things change like the desire to run LED talights or stretching tiny tires over wide rims with aggressive offsets etc.....

However in 10 years LEDs will still look like christmas tree lights to me and stretched tires with wide rims sticking out the fenders will still remind me of some low rider van or truck with no performance value or cosmetic appeal in my eyes at all just plain poor taste. Similar to wearing your belt line at your knees, I don't get it and never will.

Its does so quit being the fitment police:lol:
Well thats very one sided, and it can have perfomance value if used right.but if they where 18x10 25 offset TE37s would you say the same thing? seems like brand is all that maters:scratch:


So lets get to the bottom because im sure all you guys can keep fighting about this.

A Wheel is a Wheel , it turns and spins, some cost 5000 and some cost 1000, but at the end of the day its a wheel. brands are fads!!! its his car who cares? Whats the difference of someone buying 5000 dollar wheels then putting Doral tires on them compaired to someone buying stock wheels with M/T slicks? witht he wheel NOTHING! because its a wheel. Dont like his choice then dont look at his car. Go cry to someone else because i dont think anyone cares anymore.

Are you shitting me?!?!?! The guy made an entire thread asking for opinions on his choice of wheels and thats what he is getting. Sorry that they arnt super positive, but i think its pretty obvious what the consensus is.

Yes, an 18x10 +25 can be put on the car and driven even with stock fenders. Just because a 2.SLOW Liter VW jetta can do it, doesnt mean that it belongs on an FD. If your not driving your FD for the performance advantages that it has, then sure, go for it. But dont give the bullshit excuse of, "if you dont like it then dont look," when you post on a public forum asking for opinions.
-Austin

Ive never bought a set of aftermarket wheels and threads like this make it even more difficult to decide. I like the ADR wheels. I think they look good and the only thing really stopping me from buying a set is being certain what will fit the FD. I am leaning towards a 18" (or maybe even 19" :) ) set - would the magical offset number be the same even though the diameter changes? I'm thinking 8.5" in the front and 9.5" in the rear. Reading through the hundreds and hundreds of offset threads are a little confusing and asking straight up which offset to get will get one's balls busted.

Actually no. They could be HRE's for all I care. If you have to use the static settings of the car (i.e.: camber) to make your wheels fit, they don't fit. Camber is a tuning tool. They didn't put the adjustment there to fit your wheels. Sorry.

It has nothing to do with "brand"


Actually, no again. A wheel is not a wheel. It has nothing to do with "brand" but for the fact that typically more expensive established brands make better wheels—strong, light, forged ones. That process costs money. The stock wheels were actually manufactured with such a process, and thus their size is really the issue, not the quality. Your analogy doesn't make sense.

this is a high-performance, highly-engineered car. If you want to maintain that aspect of it, you'll spend the money to do things RIGHT, and that means buying quality wheels/tires. Not all quality wheels are super expensive (SSR, CCW, Enkei), but not all cheap wheels are quality either.

It has nothing to do with "crying" about someone's choices. If you start a thread asking for "advice" or "opinions" be prepared to get them. I'm certainly not going to hand out shit advice to make people feel better.

Adam P - it is obvious that you are enthusiastic about cars and such but your knowledge about the FD, wheels, tires, suspension, handling and engineering is basically 0. You probably don't know that until you start talking and hanging out with people that do have knowledge in that area (assuming it doesn't go over your head). Chill out and try and learn instead of telling people that do have that knowledge that they don't know what they are talking about...

I host track events at willow springs, Ive been on MTV drifting, my car was used for CSI Las Vegas, Ive pit crewed for Formula D drivers, I would be a licenced driver if i wasnt in medical school, and i was once one of the main members of the biggest corolla drift event in North America ohyeah im a UTI grad, I went there to learn not to get a job ...Maybe im not trying hard enough:nod::):lol::blush::scratch:??
Im also the only person in the north america with a Sr powerd IS300. My post count does not reflexed who i am..I is low since I spent almost 2 years fighting a war in the middle east(but im sure i dont know much about that ether?!??!), But this thread isnt about me its about the wheels the OP was thinking about getting. then someone starting in on buy some real wheel bit..
The original post asked about wheels he posted not about any other wheels. He never said he was going to track maybe he made a mistake by asking you guys but hes on the same forum as you support him if you love your rx7. Quit being robots of the Brands. If sport max's where in you would want them too..
you guys are too funny now...

You didn't read a thing. It's not about brands, what's "in", or about you, it's about FUNCTION. If you're a technical grad, then you should know the difference between forging and casting, and the effects of changes in static settings, offsets, tire sizes, etc.

hes daily driving his car.Sportmax will function prefectly fine..You guys keep bring all this track info to this thread...he never said "Im going to a GRIP event which wheels should I buy?"

Honestly i think the Work Meister's look really good on fd's......http://www.iputinwork.com/wp-content...ustom_01_l.jpg

So a daily driver NEEDs aftermarket wheels? When did I miss this bulletin. Upgrading parts is a choice. Do it right or go home. Cars are a luxury, modification is a luxury. We aren't talking necessities. You bought a high performance car, you put high performance parts on it. You don't put shitty parts on a nice car. I believe someone with automotive common sense should know this. Quality will always be quality. Shitty parts go out of style real quick, almost like a cheap outfit.

Not really. "Hella flush" is a "trend" and a "style". Lightweight, strong, forged wheels aren't... but only so many brands manufacture them, sop it's not about being in to brands for brands sake, it's about which brands make wheels that are a functional match for the car.

Yup, you learned a lot about engineering.

Keep thumping your chest. The harder you thump the smarter you don't get.

I really don't car whether you setup an event a Willow Springs. The only thing that proves is that you can fill out paper work and spend time promoting an event. That means absolutely nothing about your technical competence or knowledge.

Who cares if you crewed for some drift team or that you did an engine swap. I can turn a wrench too. Doesn't mean I'm a race engineer.

You are the one hooked on your "brands". Your earlier post on the first page is comical "..i've seen sport max wheels save a guy with a miata from falling off a cliff while we were running canyons. "

How the hell will a set of sport max wheels save a guy in a Miata from falling off a cliff? Do you realize how idiotic that sentence is? the only thing that will save some idiot driving too fast on public roads is dumb luck.

All of the people commenting on this thread have more experience tracking and racing cars than you can possible have at your 20 something years of age. None of the people on this thread have fake body kits or whatever else you were ranting about. You are just too self absorbed and determined to prove your lack of knowledge that you can't get over the fact that you are wrong. Stating it repeatedly won't make your statements any more factual and will lead to this thread being closed to save us from your drivel.

Wow! Folks get worked up over forged vs cast!

I look at wheels this way. If you hard core race the car.. get forged wheels. If you plan on keeping the car indefinitely because you love it, get the nice forged wheels. If you are on a budget and don't plan to keep the car but for a couple of years then do what you want.

I'm shopping myself and 2nd the idea to look for used forged. It takes some patience but getting a set of volks etc for 1500-2000 is the way to go imo. A new cheaply cast wheel typically cost 900ish for a set so why not fork out a bit more for the used forged?

Good luck and at the end of the day do what you want!! It's your car after all.

Thanks for summing up my thoughts. I respect drifting, but I would hardly use that as a benchmark for anything other than proving my driving ability and enjoying the sport for what it is.

*insert Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif*

Oh man how so? Well, One time my meisters saved me from shipping in ice ;-)

Oh man how so? Well, One time my meisters saved me from slipping in ice ;-) it was a limited option from work usa..... For A 200 extra per wheel they come with the ability to control your car...like ai...