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BLUE TII 12-06-16 05:22 PM

cheap cheap 18x10 +45
 
The last two gens Mustangs use FD friendly offsets and I was able to find some 18x10 +45 that look halfway decent and are ~ $160ea with free shipping available.

Downside as expected is they are heavy at 25lbs or more whereas something like the old standby CCW 18x10 is 21lbs.
Weight actually varies between the colors-

I found these weights online-
18x10 matte black- 24.65lbs
18x10 charcoal- 25.35lbs
18x10 chrome- 26.65lbs

Anyways, for the last decade or two the 18x10 +50 CCW was the standby for track FDs and now there is a cheap cheap alternative.

18 inch diameter
10 inches wide
+45 offset
25lbs weight each
$160 each

Charcoal AMR Mustang Wheel - 18x10 (15-17 Ecoboost, V6) - Free Shipping


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...392aa0e525.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...77e1516126.jpg



Not something I will use, but maybe others are interested.

If you don't already know this size will allow you to run up to 285/30-18 front and rear with rolled front fenders and front camber on your FD.

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Another wheel is the SVE Drift which is 18x10 +43 and about the same price and also 25lbs.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...3d32bbc41a.jpg

Sketch_hs 12-07-16 09:37 AM

almost 27lbs though ouch

LargeOrangeFont 12-07-16 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Sketch_hs (Post 12130712)
almost 27lbs though ouch

They are cheap and are unlikely to bend. For track dogs this is exactly what you want.

I'm running 17x10.5 mustang wheels all around on my FC that were $99 shipped each. They are 24 lbs. I'll take the 20 lb weight penalty for a strong set of wheels all day.

AmericanMuscle.com has quite a few styles of wheels in 18x10 +45 for the 2005-2014 Mustang. Many are around $160 shipped.

BLUE TII 12-07-16 10:28 AM

Sketch_hs
almost 27lbs though ouch


Yes, though from what I have read that is the heaviest chrome wheels weight and the matte Black is just under 25lbs.

The list of weights by color is from a vendor of the wheels- AmericanMuscle.com
18x10 matte black- 24.65lbs
18x10 charcoal- 25.35lbs
18x10 chrome- 26.65lbs

New AMR wheels - Page 5 - MustangForums.com

That is what you get for $640.

For twice that price you can get 18lb 18x10 Forgestar F14s.

For five times that price you can get 21lb 18x10 CCWs.

Natey 12-07-16 11:50 AM

The old saying goes:
"Light, Strong, Cheap. Pick two."

Those are good looking wheels though! For someone drifting or has potholes everywhere in their hometown, those would be right up their ally.

LargeOrangeFont 12-07-16 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12130780)
The old saying goes:
"Light, Strong, Cheap. Pick two."

Those are good looking wheels though! For someone drifting or has potholes everywhere in their hometown, those would be right up their ally.

You are right.

On a track car wheels are a wear item. You can make almost any wheel D shaped at the track putting a wheel off or jumping some curbing in the wrong place.

99.99% of us are not going to notice or benefit from a wheel that is 5 lbs lighter per corner.

I've bent more expensive light wheels than I have cheap heavier ones.

That said, Forgstars are probably the best balance of weight, strength and cost.

Natey 12-07-16 12:23 PM

RPF1s are also a good trade off.
I'm about to send in an egg-shaped CCW for a new barrel, so yeah, I agree. Make a mistake at the track, and shit happens. No matter who made the wheel.

20 pounds of unsprung weight isn't anything to scoff at though, either. :)

BLUE TII 12-07-16 01:26 PM

18x9.5 +45 (17.40lbs) is as close as the Enkei RPF1s get to this size.

BLUE TII 01-04-17 12:15 PM

Some cheap ugly 18x10.5 +45

Mickey Thompson SC-5
24.75lbs ea
$135 on Ebay

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...2e7f982548.jpg

Jonnybravo408 01-18-17 10:52 AM

Does anyone know what is the widest rubber I can run with these wheels and a fender roll?


Originally Posted by BLUE TII (Post 12130509)
The last two gens Mustangs use FD friendly offsets and I was able to find some 18x10 +45 that look halfway decent and are ~ $160ea with free shipping available.

Downside as expected is they are heavy at 25lbs or more whereas something like the old standby CCW 18x10 is 21lbs.
Weight actually varies between the colors-

I found these weights online-
18x10 matte black- 24.65lbs
18x10 charcoal- 25.35lbs
18x10 chrome- 26.65lbs

Anyways, for the last decade or two the 18x10 +50 CCW was the standby for track FDs and now there is a cheap cheap alternative.

18 inch diameter
10 inches wide
+45 offset
25lbs weight each
$160 each

Charcoal AMR Mustang Wheel - 18x10 (15-17 Ecoboost, V6) - Free Shipping


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...392aa0e525.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...77e1516126.jpg



Not something I will use, but maybe others are interested.

If you don't already know this size will allow you to run up to 285/30-18 front and rear with rolled front fenders and front camber on your FD.

---------------

Another wheel is the SVE Drift which is 18x10 +43 and about the same price and also 25lbs.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...3d32bbc41a.jpg


BLUE TII 01-18-17 11:29 AM

+45 offset supports 295/30-18 front and rear with fender roll/slight pull and camber in front and camber or fender roll in back.

Jonnybravo408 01-19-17 07:36 PM

Awesome! And at what ride height? Would 25 1/4"F/25 1/2"R work?

BLUE TII 01-19-17 09:44 PM

That is about the heights I run.

295 will rub the front plastic fender liners at the top outside edge unless you trim them or find a way to tuck them up/change their shape from stock at the top.

You will see what I mean about the problem with the plastic liner as soon as you roll the front fenders.

ArmenMAxx 01-22-17 09:53 PM

Im thinking about getting my front 18x9.5 +45 rpf1's widened with weldcraft. Plan is to go either 10 or 10.5 while keeping the offset at +45 so I can run 285/30/18 without issue. Not sure if 18x10.5 width will fit?

Anybody here have any experience with weldcraft? Overall this is the next cheapest option for a high offset 10-10.5inch rim imo

BLUE TII 01-23-17 12:23 AM

One thing to think about is that wheels are engineered and will have different centers and barrel profiles depending on their widths (and even offsets on high end wheels).

Widening a 9.5" Enkei to 10.5" is probably not going to be as strong as that same Enkei in 10.5" wide form.

Also, if you are trying to maintain +45 offset you would have to cut and weld on the outer and inner barrels of the wheel which is going to cost twice as much as widening the usual way of just the inner barrel.

I don't see how widening a set of wheels this way could possibly be any cheaper than selling what you have and buying the correct wheels.

Except don't sell if these are these the same Enkei wheels that have visibly bent inner barrels. Those need to be retired.
And if you want new wheels to last a longer on the track you are going to have to avoid running over the curbing and dropping a wheel off track at higher speeds.:(

I don't mean to sound like a dick I don't drive any different, just at lower speeds; so far my wheels have held up to it.

ArmenMAxx 01-23-17 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by BLUE TII (Post 12144232)
One thing to think about is that wheels are engineered and will have different centers and barrel profiles depending on their widths (and even offsets on high end wheels).

Widening a 9.5" Enkei to 10.5" is probably not going to be as strong as that same Enkei in 10.5" wide form.

Also, if you are trying to maintain +45 offset you would have to cut and weld on the outer and inner barrels of the wheel which is going to cost twice as much as widening the usual way of just the inner barrel.

I don't see how widening a set of wheels this way could possibly be any cheaper than selling what you have and buying the correct wheels.

Except don't sell if these are these the same Enkei wheels that have visibly bent inner barrels. Those need to be retired.
And if you want new wheels to last a longer on the track you are going to have to avoid running over the curbing and dropping a wheel off track at higher speeds.:(

I don't mean to sound like a dick I don't drive any different, just at lower speeds; so far my wheels have held up to it.

Point taken. I do abuse my wheels at the track, its not surprising that they are bent. Its just part of what comes with going 100% out there. If enkei made a 18x10.5+45 or even 18x10+45 rpf1 rim id be all over it. I just cant bring myself to put on what I think are ugly wheels. My plan was to have the bent barrels repaired at the same time as widening.

If both outer and inner barrels need to be cut to obtain 10.5 and static offset, then ill probably just go with 10 and deal with the offset change. I dont mind running 285/30/18's on a 10inch wheel. Not ideal but for the time being its ok.

BLUE TII 01-23-17 12:16 PM

I just cant bring myself to put on what I think are ugly wheels

Yeah, tell me about it!
I wish there was more choices in this size and hopefully there will be as manufacturers keep turning out aftermarket wheels for the newer Mustangs.

You can replace the inner barrels on the Enkeis; obviously, the centers have been taking the punishment and brake heat too.

If you add 1/2" to the inside barrel on the 18x9.5 +45 you have 18x10 +58mm offset.
You will probably have to run a 5-7mm spacer to keep a 285 wide tire from rubbing the coilovers F/R, trailing arm in the rear and lower arm at full lock in the front.

BLUE TII 08-28-17 05:39 PM

Not as cheap but-

New 18x11 +52 (will require 1/4" spacer front and rear).
22.85Lbs
$364ea


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...0c2b96b8e7.png

https://www.apexraceparts.com/wheels...ang-wheel.html

Jonnybravo408 08-28-17 06:57 PM

Will 1/4" spacers require the use of extended wheel studs?


Originally Posted by BLUE TII (Post 12211796)
Not as cheap but-

New 18x11 +52 (will require 1/4" spacer front and rear).
22.85Lbs
$364ea


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...0c2b96b8e7.png

https://www.apexraceparts.com/wheels...ang-wheel.html


GoodfellaFD3S 08-28-17 08:13 PM

18x11 up front with oem rolled fenders eh?

Jonnybravo408 08-28-17 09:09 PM

I'm a fan of stuffing fat rubber under the oem body.


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 12211824)
18x11 up front with oem rolled fenders eh?


BLUE TII 08-29-17 12:36 AM


Jonnybravo408

Will 1/4" spacers require the use of extended wheel studs?
I would.
Well no, for the price I would wait 6 months to get the right offset wheels. But, it is good to have options.


GoodfellaFD3S

18x11 up front with oem rolled fenders eh?
That is how I roll on my FD and 8.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...61d2fc1f41.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...735716c320.jpg

ptrhahn 09-15-17 07:38 PM

Weight makes a difference. I ran 18x10 Technomagnesios for years that were very strong but probably 24lbs, and got a set of 18x10 CCW C14s which are one piece forged, and you can feel the difference in the handling and car behavior. I'd guess they are 18-19 lbs.

I'd go for them over the classics (and in fact did with a second set), and they seem pretty strong. Lots of Corvette and Porsche guys use them.

BLUE TII 09-20-17 02:01 PM

Not so cheap, but another option to get into an off the shelf 18x11 +43 fitment (no waiting for Forgestar custom offset).

Go Corvette

5x4.5" (114.3mm) to 5x5" (127.1mm) 32mm thick bolt on wheel adapters $97.01


Some 18x11 +75 OZ Alleggerita HLT in 5x5"(127.1mm) Corvette bolt pattern ~$375ea 21Lbs


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...0e7784b6d8.jpg

Jonnybravo408 09-16-18 01:35 PM

Just wanted to update this thread with another option that is off the shelf. Jongbloed Series 700 Mustang spec wheels. I have 295/30/18 Hoosier R7's on these.

Jongbloed Series 700 Wheel 18 x 10.5 +45mm


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...958130b907.jpg


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