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Josh18_2k 03-19-09 06:45 PM

[FC] Corksport 30mm fenders + 285's = win
 
I'm sure all of you were wondering "whats the biggest tire i can stuff under the front of my FC, without using those godaweful 60mm tripoint flares?"
the answer - Corksport 30mm fenders. Unlike most fenders for the FC, CS fenders give an honest 30mm, maybe more (i didnt actually measure).

Tein Flex coilovers, 2.5 degrees camber

Drivers side:
18x9.5 +15 Enkei RPF1
285/30/18 Kumho V710

Passenger side:
17x9 +24 Bullitts
255/40/17 Advan A032-R

the last v710 pic is with the tire compressed some (rolled up onto a curb). as you can see it tucks just fine. The tire will actually hit the frame rail before the fender. perfect fit!

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...C/DSC02845.jpg
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Josh18_2k 03-19-09 06:50 PM

btw- i definately recommend the CS fenders. they fit really well (mounted them myself with a little dremeling and a hand drill).
for you drifty types, you could run crazy low offsets on these. 285 with +15 offset equates to -10 with a 235.

slowsti05 03-19-09 07:48 PM

rpf1's = teh hottness

jdmsuper7 03-19-09 08:48 PM

YAY! THAT is an auto-x setup. Looks fantastic! Really been kicking around going 18" since the overall tire heights are so much better. Damn that thing looks good.

Josh18_2k 03-20-09 01:10 AM

you're in ssm dude- do it!

so based on my experiance, i think the best 'budget' setup would be to run 18x10 +22 mustang wheels all around, with a 7mm-10mm spacer up front, and 285's all around.
the rears will fit a lot easier with the +22 in back. only a slight pull needed, assuming non-retarted ride height and proper camber.

MaczPayne 03-20-09 02:27 AM

Oh snap! Now that's rubber! I just wished those fenders didn't have the vent!

LargeOrangeFont 03-20-09 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by MaczPayne (Post 9059290)
Oh snap! Now that's rubber! I just wished those fenders didn't have the vent!

I 2nd that.

jdmsuper7 03-21-09 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Josh18_2k (Post 9059183)
you're in ssm dude- do it!

so based on my experiance, i think the best 'budget' setup would be to run 18x10 +22 mustang wheels all around, with a 7mm-10mm spacer up front, and 285's all around.
the rears will fit a lot easier with the +22 in back. only a slight pull needed, assuming non-retarted ride height and proper camber.

Need to find a job first lol.

j200pruf 03-21-09 06:37 PM

So an honest 30mm is all that is needed for 285s in the front? Awesome!!! Hey Josh, where in portland I would really like to check your car out.

Black91n/a 03-22-09 12:30 AM

It'll be best to put some mesh over the opening to keep the rocks and junk from flying out of the fender and hitting the car. Nicely done though, I never would have thought that combo would work.

ARD T2 03-22-09 02:10 AM

For a FG Fender that thing fits real nice. I've seen virtually every brand cheap and epensive available stateside and i'm very impressed with the seams and subtlety of the flare. And being CS fenders they must be darn affordable. Hats off!!!!

I'd be interested in seeing a street radial 285/30/18 would fit with that setup. i'm running 245's on my stock front fenders and the thing turns on a dime but is twitchy for daily driving, imo. I can't imagin 285's. do tell......

Rishie

-==L=a=N=c=E==- 03-22-09 03:44 AM

This is a great post. Thanks!

I'm using genuine 30mm D1 DMax fenders, and was planning to run the 17x9 mustang wheels and 275/40R17's on the front. By the look of your fitment, you could go even bigger again.... 315 up front?

Josh18_2k 03-22-09 08:55 PM

275/40/17 is a taller tire, and thats really where the problems lie. you can go plenty wide, but larger diameter tires interfere with everything. 275's will most likely hit the back of the fender, maybe the front, and will probably rub on the inside of the fender well.
285/30/18 is the same diameter as 255/40/17, which just clears the insides and the back edge of the fender.

i know some guys have run 275's in front, but i've only seen it on mariah or tripoint 'big' fenders, which give you extra room down on the bottom for the tire to turn. they may have also pounded out the fender well. dunno

-==L=a=N=c=E==- 03-23-09 04:49 PM

If you run more postive castor, this gives you more clearance for the back of the guard.

I originally had some MSport 25mm copies, and they suffered the guard clearance at the back of the wheels, and this was evident even before i put tires onto some 18x9.5+7 wheels i had for fitment back then. Although this was when the 'drift fitment is cool' fad was happening, and the wheels came up cheap. I had plenty of room at the front of the guard.

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I'll be using the same guards as this guy (his running 255/40R17's all round)
https://i204.photobucket.com/albums/...j/IMG_0500.jpghttps://i204.photobucket.com/albums/...j/IMG_0505.jpg

Josh18_2k 03-23-09 07:26 PM

a) how do i get more caster? I have tein flex's and caster sure isnt adjustable up top.
b) what rear overs are those? did you measure how much legitamate clearance is gained? fitment?

MaczPayne 03-24-09 12:29 AM

You can get more caster by "ovaling" out the upper strut mounts.

I second moving to 18's for tire widths larger than 255. 275's for 17's are just way too tall. The gearing penalties accrued outweigh the benefits of more traction.

-==L=a=N=c=E==- 03-24-09 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by Josh18_2k (Post 9066991)
a) how do i get more caster? I have tein flex's and caster sure isnt adjustable up top.
b) what rear overs are those? did you measure how much legitamate clearance is gained? fitment?



a) castor - with the camber tops, spin them 90 degrees, and this will give you castor adjustment (use camber bolts to get camber) OR use an offset bush for the rear of the front lower control arm. Effectively moving the rear mount outwards. Increasing castor. I'm using the latter method, using locally available bushes (www.whiteline.com.au or www.fulcrumsuspension.com.au)

b) rear fenders are 30mm DMax fenders, measured at 30mm. I pulled the rear fenders, and then placed them over the top, and the pull alone was easily 30+mm Might have to slightly trim some of the fibreglass, but measuring from the stock wheel face, to the edge of the guard with a plumpbob i have 75mm extra room for a larger rim. Going for 315/35R17 in the rear.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4...0142az3.th.jpghttp://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7...0141bm0.th.jpg

The picture i have before of the rear with a wheel fitted was with a 18x10.5+7.

Josh18_2k 04-05-09 06:49 PM

i had my springs out today, so i thought i'd take more pics.
i jacked the tire up into the wheel well to see how much travel i really had.
the corner of the tire is just barely touching the fender (i think). kinda hard to tell. should have passed a string over it or something...
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...C/DSC02857.jpg
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4WDrift 04-05-09 07:38 PM

that is one really tight fit. I gotta know how an fc drives with 285's all the way around!

Josh18_2k 04-05-09 08:24 PM

unholy traction lol
when the v710's get hot its unreal

-==L=a=N=c=E==- 04-06-09 04:26 PM

do you have any pictures of the 285's on the rears with your pulled fenders?

what are the chances of the tire hitting under full suspension load?

jdmsuper7 04-06-09 04:29 PM

Glad you tried this... you may well have found my eventual national setup. I can't believe how well that fits.

-==L=a=N=c=E==- 04-17-09 09:16 PM

https://i204.photobucket.com/albums/...j/IMG_9945.jpg

18x10 285/30R18 all round

willcoop 12-05-10 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by -==L=a=N=c=E==- (Post 9137329)

Do you have any specs on wheel offsets and what fenders those are?

-==L=a=N=c=E==- 12-06-10 02:50 PM

not sure on offset, his using +30mm front fenders, and the rears were pumped.

i'm fairly sure looking at them, they are skyline GTR offset, which will be around +15, and for clearance to the strut you may need a spacer.

Josh18_2k 12-06-10 03:50 PM

those are DMax front fenders. you sure those are 285s? didnt think they offered that much clearance...

-==L=a=N=c=E==- 12-07-10 02:26 PM

they sure are, the same ones i'm using, and i've got 275's on the front of mine, and still have clearance.

BLUE TII 12-09-10 12:35 PM

OMG those 285/30-18 V710 or A6 are expensive.

You could get the FC really low and have full suspension travel with the 275/35-15 A6 all around with those fenders... would be cheaper and lighter :D

Josh18_2k 12-09-10 05:22 PM

lol who buys new tires? you can get corvette sized 710s for dealz. i paid ~300 total for the current set on my car, in near new condition (qualifying take offs)
but yah, if i had less power, i definately would have opted for the 15's. couldnt put the power down with 285s tho, so ehh

atli126 03-26-18 07:13 AM

Hey Josh. I just got some corksport Fenders. Can you get the pics back up?

Thanks!

LargeOrangeFont 03-26-18 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 12263229)
Hey Josh. I just got some corksport Fenders. Can you get the pics back up?

Thanks!

I would have loved to grab these! But I have giant 275s under Shine fenders currently.

atli126 03-27-18 11:15 AM

I'd just like to see the pics. My shine Fenders are kinda beat up.I'm thinking of running 285s on some 18s next

atli126 04-04-18 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Josh18_2k (Post 9059183)
you're in ssm dude- do it!

so based on my experiance, i think the best 'budget' setup would be to run 18x10 +22 mustang wheels all around, with a 7mm-10mm spacer up front, and 285's all around.
the rears will fit a lot easier with the +22 in back. only a slight pull needed, assuming non-retarted ride height and proper camber.

Josh or anyone. Do you think a 18x9 +28 combo with the 285s would fit equally as well as the 18x10 +22 setup? I have a mild pull in the rear and the corksport fenders for the front.

Thanks
Bret

LargeOrangeFont 04-13-18 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 12265522)
Josh or anyone. Do you think a 18x9 +28 combo with the 285s would fit equally as well as the 18x10 +22 setup? I have a mild pull in the rear and the corksport fenders for the front.

Thanks
Bret

Get the 10 inch wheels, it will likely rub less, except on the front sway bar. You will need a big spacer up front to get that 18X9+28 combo to work and keep the tire off the strut.. probably in the 15mm neighborhood. 285s are pretty large for 9 inch wheels too. The +22 setup in front should be better. You may need a spacer there to to get the tire off the coilover, depending on the brand of coilovers.

You may need more of a pull in the rear to get the 10 inch wheel to work. You will need spacers in the back with the 9 inch wheel, and may have to live with a little tire rub on the rear trailing arm to keep the tires off the fenders.

Food for thought. - I went from 275/35/17 on 9.5 inch wheels, to the same tire on 10.5 inch wheels with about identical effective offsets and rub less.. simply because the tire moves around on the rim less.

You may have to make some other changes to get it to work, Drop me a line and I can tell you what I did. The good news is that with those fenders you have a little extra wiggle room. I think your biggest challenge is going to be keeping the tire off the front coilover. Josh had custom front struts and built extra clearance into them.

atli126 04-16-18 05:58 AM

Thanks for the reply I didn't end buying those. I'll hold out for a bit more and get the right wheel first...

I did find these as another option 18x10.5 +22. What do you think?


https://www.unleashedwheels.com/esr-sr06.html

LargeOrangeFont 04-16-18 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 12268273)
Thanks for the reply I didn't end buying those. I'll hold out for a bit more and get the right wheel first...

I did find these as another option 18x10.5 +22. What do you think?


https://www.unleashedwheels.com/esr-sr06.html

Provided you have strut clearance in front, those should work. That is about the effective offset I run in front. I run about a 7-8mm spacer on a 17x10.5 +27.

The back is gonna be a tight squeeze. It will be down to how wide your tires really are, and how much you have pulled the fenders.
I run the same wheel in back with no spacer at all.. and the fit is perfect. The tire just touches the inner and outer fender wells enough to shine the shoulder of the tire at full rear compression.

So you’ll be 5 mm outboard. But I would wager your 285s are not as wide as the 275 race tires.



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