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siguy2k 03-31-11 01:45 PM

Tial, precision, or synapse?
 
So looking at wastegates. Im debating between a tial MVR 44mm, precision 46mm or synapse 50mm. There all within a few bucks of each other. Just looking for some opinions of guys that have ran them. And this will be with a larger BW turbo. I wont be running less than 15-18psi at any givin point so im thinking the 44mm would probly do it but just looking for opinions. Thanks

catch-22 03-31-11 02:03 PM

I just finished up my S475 build and went with dual MVS 38mm and I love them. To me TiAL's craftsmanship is unbeatable and there a proven setup time and time again. Not to mention the 38s are extremely compact which is nice when you dont have a lot of room to work with like when doing dual gates. The now standard water cooling on these is really cool also. TiAL FTW!

killahrx7 03-31-11 06:58 PM

i have a synapse 50mm for over two years, never had boost creep, works flawless.

vosko 03-31-11 06:59 PM

out of those 3 i've only run Tial. No problems always worked great

Rx7aholic 03-31-11 07:28 PM

What about HKS?

siguy2k 03-31-11 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Rx7aholic (Post 10546814)
What about HKS?

Rich man jk. Kinda forgot about HKS but there always more money:lol:

vosko 03-31-11 07:39 PM

i'd get one of the ones you have listed simply because of the vband hookup. the 4 bolt hks,greddy etc are kind of a pain

siguy2k 03-31-11 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by vosko (Post 10546837)
i'd get one of the ones you have listed simply because of the vband hookup. the 4 bolt hks,greddy etc are kind of a pain

Yea I guess I didnt think of that. Its definitely going to be vband. The new exhaust will be all vbands also.

Syritis 03-31-11 10:01 PM

nearly everyone i race with uses tial and have never heard a word of bad quality or any faults. they are the best. recently i've been hearing of precision WG's being as good as tial. but haven't seen any use of them on the track to say if they work or not.
if space is limited then tial is for you, they have the most compact WG's by a long shot.
the 60mm is a beast, i had to try a couple different set ups to make it fit. 50mm is a good size but dual 38 will out flow a 60mm but they take some creativity to plumb them back to the downpipe. screamer pipes are easy.

splitfire98 04-01-11 01:29 AM

Tial FTW

Jason 04-01-11 08:03 AM

All of them will work fine. The synapse is a little more confusing to route boost control because it has a few extra ports on it but it works well.

SmogSUX 04-01-11 03:08 PM

My Synapse has held my HX40's boost down to 9 psi without any creep at all. Now I just need to get my pos ebc to work so I can crank it up.

Banzai-Racing 04-02-11 07:28 AM

I am a big fan of TiAL, we run the 44mm on our 13b-re with a GT35R and the 60mm on our 20B with the GT4202R, both have performed flawlessly since day one. Also run their BOVs on both cars.

13btnos 04-02-11 10:02 AM

I have a Tial 46mm but I really like the Precision 46mm http://www.aptuning.net/Precision_46...0wastegate.htm $300 and it comes with all the springs you would really ever need. Not a bad deal. Would love to hear some feed back from someone that has had experience with the Precision wastegate.

Jeff20B 04-03-11 04:50 PM

I have a Precision 46mm. Not installed yet. Looks very well made.

siguy2k 04-07-11 09:26 PM

Ok guys precision or synapse??? Make up my mind for me! I ruled out tial because I dont want to buy any springs! I cant make up my mind!!!! AHHH!

Jason 04-07-11 10:38 PM

The Tial 44mm I carry comes with every spring. No need to buy other springs.
I don't think you can wrong with any of those waste gates

silverfdturbo6port 04-07-11 11:14 PM

same with the precision i am running, its a 46mm v band wastegate that came with every spring to make it any boost level you wanted

siguy2k 04-07-11 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port (Post 10560492)
same with the precision i am running, its a 46mm v band wastegate that came with every spring to make it any boost level you wanted

Is your motor balanced or clearanced? Specs of it?How do you like the precision?

Thanks jason I think I'm going with the precision though.

enzo250 04-08-11 08:19 AM

Tial would be my only choice....

mefarri 04-08-11 08:55 AM

Has anyone noticed that the precision stuff looks very similiar to the tial stuff?

enzo250 04-08-11 09:17 AM

except it's made in china...

mefarri 04-08-11 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by enzo250 (Post 10561031)
except it's made in china...

I find it hard to believe that the company who makes the best turbos on the market has knock off wastegates without some form of proof.

siguy2k 04-11-11 09:34 AM

Went with a Tial 44mm MVR.

h2ojoshua 04-17-11 10:47 PM

I only use Tial


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