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1bad7 07-12-02 02:46 PM

T51R questions
 
hey guys, im in the market for a nice single turbo kit for my FD and im really interested in the HKS T51R. ive seen that the SPL is available in ball bearing... is the regular t51 also available in BB?

i know that u cant rebuild a BB but they spool up faster, approximately how much faster?

also, if i sent an apex seal thorugh the turbo and damaged the fins on the turbo how much would it cost to rebuild it with new propellers and all?

thanks alot guys

KraftDinner 07-12-02 05:00 PM

Generally a BB turbo spools up about 500-700 rpm sooner.
Only can rebuild non-BB = correct. I'm not sure of price, but I'm estimating in the 300-600 usd range?

sokudo 07-14-02 01:42 AM

spl is a little much for a 7. me and soul are using kai's. i have a bb and soul has a bush. should have then dynoed by the end of the week.

1bad7 07-14-02 09:24 AM

oh ok great, i thought that soul was running the BB spl but i guess i was mistaken. how fast does the BB kai spool? have u ever compared it to the bush version?

also, i spoke with HKSUSA and they stated that the BB turbos are not yet available to market. can you get you hands on another full kai BB FD kit?

KING KONG DONG 07-14-02 11:25 AM

Trust me,the lag on that T51R KAI isnt bad at all,its pretty insane actually.

Video http://67.83.39.159:8080/media/burnout2.avi

soul assassin 07-14-02 01:46 PM

yeah the BB must be really sweet i can't wait ot see the difference in power curves between my bushing kai and sokudo's BB
dyno graph don't lie

1bad7 07-14-02 06:24 PM

thats great to hear guys. i definately hope that im making the right choice. could u guys also point me to where the BB version is available, if i could i'd rather get it in BB.

also, doesnt the stock map sensor only read up to 17psi? where can i get an upgraded map sensor so that i can run 20?

im4u 07-14-02 06:44 PM

the spool is like 5500 rpms from what i am told?and the lag isnt that bad?

KING KONG DONG 07-14-02 06:44 PM


Originally posted by 1bad7
thats great to hear guys. i definately hope that im making the right choice. could u guys also point me to where the BB version is available, if i could i'd rather get it in BB.

also, doesnt the stock map sensor only read up to 17psi? where can i get an upgraded map sensor so that i can run 20?

I've heard that the BB version is hard to get for people in japan so I wouldnt plan on finding it anywhere in the us.

1bad7 07-14-02 07:09 PM

ya i know, HKS told me that its still in the testing phase here so i dunno. im hoping that sokudo or someone could get one for me and i'd mail them a money order or sumthin. that is if he can get me one

also, do u have any pics of it sokudo? and a link to ur dyno graph? thanks

nice burn by the way erik :D thats one mean soundin fucker. i so gotta have one

soul assassin 07-14-02 09:52 PM

yeah they are still pretty hard to find, mialy for track use only not everyday use. give it about 6 months or so i think they will be easier to find.heres a pic of the new BB SPL

sokudo 07-15-02 07:27 AM

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/85d4f...SVlW9A7JiQLzrh

sokudo 07-15-02 07:30 AM

some pics
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/85d4f...SVlW9A9QAQ8_2x

sokudo 07-15-02 07:32 AM

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/85d4f...SVlW9A2i7LjQ52

sokudo 07-15-02 07:33 AM

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/85d4f...SVlW9AcNdRVI54

KING KONG DONG 07-15-02 07:44 AM

Is that housing made from a different aluminum than the regular KAI,it looks like a shinier surface.

sokudo 07-15-02 08:22 AM

no they just polish the BB's a little

KING KONG DONG 07-15-02 08:33 AM


Originally posted by sokudo
no they just polish the BB's a little
I like that dull shine,it looks nice.

1bad7 07-15-02 02:19 PM

all i can say is wow!
can u get ur hands on another kit sokudo???

oh and i see that u had to bang in the frame a lil to get it to fit. is this the case with all the HKS's or is it just the BB or just ur car?

to_slow 07-15-02 03:29 PM

How much is it 4 hks bb turbo and can you get me one sokudo?:D
Is the spool up faster on the bb one ?
Thanks
Dan

1bad7 07-15-02 04:07 PM

DUDE!!! OMG!!! i get first dibs... looks like a good way for you to makes a buck sokudo ;)

oh and please read the second post... it clearly answers ur question. dont just post without reading... it irritates me :p:

to_slow 07-15-02 08:14 PM

Cool but what about the price ?
Thanks
Dan

Peanut Butter 07-15-02 08:33 PM

Hope you guys realize that you're going to be paying like 5g just for the turbo.

soul assassin 07-15-02 08:35 PM


Originally posted by Peanut Butter
Hope you guys realize that you're going to be paying like 5g just for the turbo.
anyone that would pay that much is plain stupid!!

sokudo 07-15-02 10:15 PM


Originally posted by 1bad7
all i can say is wow!
can u get ur hands on another kit sokudo???

oh and i see that u had to bang in the frame a lil to get it to fit. is this the case with all the HKS's or is it just the BB or just ur car?

ther wont be available again until late august. if you are interested i can order them now so you make sure you get one. depending on the yen rate will be about $2800 for turbo and an adapter for it to fit on a to4 manifold.

as far as hitting the car it depends on many different things, position, what manifold you use and stuff. i am using an HPI manifold.

SPEED_NYC 07-16-02 05:00 AM

Sokudo, do you have pics of the turbo and manifold outside of the car? or even just pics of the HPI manifold?

What is the price on the HPI manifold? and lastly, how much can you get the non-BB KAI's for?

Thanx
h

sokudo 07-16-02 09:34 AM

send me an e-mail at rob@jouleusa.com

3rdGen7 07-21-02 01:17 PM


Originally posted by sokudo


ther wont be available again until late august. if you are interested i can order them now so you make sure you get one. depending on the yen rate will be about $2800 for turbo and an adapter for it to fit on a to4 manifold.

as far as hitting the car it depends on many different things, position, what manifold you use and stuff. i am using an HPI manifold.


sokudo ,

What size is the down Pipe that comes with the T51 R KAI ? I need to get one made .. I bought a T51 but I didnīt buy the kit.

. wonder if I can just buy the DP straight from HKS ..or you for that matter ???

3rdGen7 07-21-02 01:19 PM


Originally posted by im4u
the spool is like 5500 rpms from what i am told?and the lag isnt that bad?
If i spools like 5500 ..then that *IS* called LAG ?!?

:confused:

3rdGen7 07-21-02 01:23 PM

T 51 R Kai 4 sale
 
There is a guy with a T51 R KAI for sale right now in Japan. I found it while surfing the other yesterday.

go to www.yahoo.co.jp and search around in the auto parts section .. of course it is in Japanese but you can use www.altavista.com translator to help you out.

3rdGen7 07-21-02 01:24 PM


Originally posted by KING KONG DONG
Trust me,the lag on that T51R KAI isnt bad at all,its pretty insane actually.

Video http://67.83.39.159:8080/media/burnout2.avi


Dude the vid didnīt work ?!?!

3rdGen7 07-21-02 01:27 PM


Are those one of those torque braces thingies ... ??

Does it work well ?? ..Broken any mounts recently ??

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/85d4f...SVlW9A2i7LjQ52

twint78 07-21-02 01:27 PM

hey 3rd gen i pmed u.plus they erased that vid cuz of the person who posted it.it was a bad vid too.

3rdGen7 07-21-02 01:30 PM


Originally posted by sokudo
no they just polish the BB's a little

sokudo & Others,

How can I polish my T51 (....and not get sand paper type grit inside of it ..ouch !)

I was thinking that while itīs out of the car, I could make it a little pretty .. ..or should I just leave it alone and be happy before I do some damage :D ??

Canīt you just tape off the openings and rub it down with something until itīs smooth ???

3rdGen7 07-21-02 01:33 PM


Originally posted by twint78
hey 3rd gen i pmed u.plus they erased that vid cuz of the person who posted it.it was a bad vid too.
OIC ..cool .. gonnaīgo check the PMīs

Thanks

sokudo 07-22-02 07:22 AM

yes it is a rigid brace and have never broke a eng mount. you can feel the lope of the motor more in the seat of your pants.


Originally posted by 3rdGen7



Are those one of those torque braces thingies ... ??

Does it work well ?? ..Broken any mounts recently ??

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/85d4f...SVlW9A2i7LjQ52

:D :D

sokudo 07-22-02 07:28 AM

remove the compressor housing from the turbo and polish away, just clean it good befor you reasymble it. be careful not to ding the blades when removing and installing the housing.


Originally posted by 3rdGen7



sokudo & Others,

How can I polish my T51 (....and not get sand paper type grit inside of it ..ouch !)

I was thinking that while itīs out of the car, I could make it a little pretty .. ..or should I just leave it alone and be happy before I do some damage :D ??

Canīt you just tape off the openings and rub it down with something until itīs smooth ???


3rdGen7 07-22-02 09:31 AM


Originally posted by sokudo
remove the compressor housing from the turbo and polish away, just clean it good befor you reasymble it. be careful not to ding the blades when removing and installing the housing.



Ahhhh ..that sounds easy enough..

Did you use a dremel tool or just elbow grease and coarse to fine grit sandpaper ...lots of it ??

3rdGen7 07-22-02 09:34 AM

Anyone have a the original HKS heat shield for the T51 series turbos ..theyīd like to sell.. give away ???


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