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Brettus 10-25-17 01:32 PM

Procharge Turbochargers GT3582r turbine upgrade
 
I was searching online for a turbine upgrade for the GT35r and stumbled on these guys from Australia . The results they are reporting are nothing short of amazing and their turbos could be a seriously good option for the 13b, especially for those that already run a GT35r . Anyone on here know anything about them ?


**NEW GT35R/GTX35R 9 Blade Turbine wheel** Many Turbocharger shops around the country are hi-flowing the common Ford Falcon GT35R turbocharger, but the main issue everyone faces with high hp applications is back pressure, we have been offering many different hi-flow options with compressor wheel upgrades including 62, 63, 64, 66 & 67mm compressor wheels. These hi-flows have worked well in the past but to get more power you must change the turbine wheel, Finally after years of development we are pleased to release our 9 blade GT35R turbine wheel with fantastic results. Customers with our 67mm compressor wheel and new 9 blade turbine wheel have reported power figures of 530+rwkw @ only 20 to 22psi. Boost is also coming on nearly 1000 rpm earlier. We are also excited to have also finished our new designed GT35R- 69mm 10 blade compressor wheel, we will post some results shortly.
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Slides 10-25-17 07:42 PM

I'm moving to victoria and have a 35 i was considering using for twincharging with an eaton blower. This would reduce back pressure by the looks.

Brettus 10-25-17 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by Slides (Post 12227075)
I'm moving to victoria and have a 35 i was considering using for twincharging with an eaton blower. This would reduce back pressure by the looks.

I read somewhere on the site that it flows 17% more than a stock 35r wheel . Perhaps the equivalent of going up a couple of housing sizes ...... .


Hey mate, the turbine is still the same size, but we have had the trailing edge of the exducer curved to allow around 17% more flow. The problem with going a larger real wheel is the weight, the 35 bearing pack is only tiny if you go a larger or heaver turbine wheel the bearing will fail. This has been proven by Garrett as they went to a larger bearing pack for the GTW and the T04Z and those turbine wheels are only mm's larger. A larger heavy wheel will just not last!! These wheels have a smaller center hub by 5 mm, that is where we get the extra flow from and the fact that we have dropped a blade as well. The stage 1 wheel was 56% lighter than the factory wheel and this one is 62%. Thanks for the message mate

Slides 10-26-17 02:40 AM

Sounds good.

Brettus 11-01-17 09:01 PM

Thought there were a few around with this turbo that might be interested in this .... guess not . Anyway I'm giving it a try and will report back if i notice any goodness .

Slides 11-01-17 09:34 PM

Let me know what the damage $$$ for the turbine / compressor upgrade is.

Do they suggest extrude honing the turbine housing as well?

Brettus 11-02-17 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Slides (Post 12228858)
Let me know what the damage $$$ for the turbine / compressor upgrade is.

Do they suggest extrude honing the turbine housing as well?

It's about $1450AU for turbine + rebuild + compressor wheel + machining of housing . I'm just getting the turbine fitted which is $1000AU . Not bad seeing as my turbo needed a rebuild anyway.

no they don't suggest that . I just looked it up to see what you were talking about .... cool process !

Slides 11-02-17 09:11 PM

For that money I might be better off buying an efr straight up as I'm not trying to reuse existing manifold etc. Will use the 35 as is on another motor.

it is a pretty good solution for people who are trying to stay stock on a falcon or very space constrained for turbine.

Brettus 02-05-18 05:08 PM

I tried this in combination with my existing gtx76 compressor wheel and wasn't too impressed with the results . After talking with Procharge they agreed to upgrade the compressor to an 82 free of charge . That is on it's way back to me and I should be testing soon.
In the meantime here is my gtx82 wheel being balanced : y axis is rpm , x axis is out of balance and green line is max. spec. first run before balance , second after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCJBXqPFweU&feature=youtu.be

Slides 02-05-18 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 12251125)
I tried this in combination with my existing gtx76 compressor wheel and wasn't too impressed with the results . After talking with Procharge they agreed to upgrade the compressor to an 82 free of charge . That is on it's way back to me and I should be testing soon.
In the meantime here is my gtx82 wheel being balanced : y axis is rpm , x axis is out of balance and green line is max. spec. first run before balance , second after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCJB...ature=youtu.be

I can understand not making much additional power (should be some based on their claims) but was there a noticeable difference in boost response? Turbine should be a lot lighter.

I was hoping a 64mm comp/turbine upgrade from these guys would be a good thing and not be too much for my OS gearset. If I go much bigger in turbo i would want a t56 magnum behind it and all of the boost.

Brettus 02-05-18 08:54 PM

Hard for me to give a definitive answer on that as there were other engine changes that could have affected response. But I was pretty happy with response and it was better than I'd seen before. I'll be getting a 62 inducer wheel which is he smallest 82mm wheel . I think the gtx76 wheel was basically too small for the turbine and am hoping the gtx82 will actually spool quicker(or at least as good) ...x fingers

cewrx7r1 02-08-18 06:31 PM

I had Force Performance upgrade my GT3582R 1.06 AR turbine. Flows more than a GTX3582R.

STM: FP | FORCED PERFORMANCE | HTA GT3582R BALL BEARING TURBO

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...2R-HTA-test-(-)

Brettus 02-20-18 05:14 PM

So the new gtx3582 hybrid is in .
Spoolup is pretty much the same as the 76mm wheel (100rpm slower to 16psi) and response is just as good if not better . Car feels very lively . But It's not really the lightning spool I was hoping for . As far as backpressure goes , it looks like a reduction of around 1.5psi at the 400whp mark.
I would say the hiflo turbine is about equivalent to going up 1 AR housing size without the spoolup penalty that would come with that.

Just for clarification : this turbo is on a Renesis , so ...................YMMV .

Slides 02-20-18 09:05 PM

Thanks for sharing.

Brettus 02-28-18 01:28 PM

For the record . I believe this turbine would perform a lot better on a PP exhaust engine than my Renesis . I realised recently that my spoolup has been adversely effected by an engine mod. I did before the install . I have full spool to 16psi by 4000rpm but I think on aPP engine you would that closer to 3000. I really think it's worth trying.


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