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dougiepants 04-24-07 09:43 PM

Can you please list all the work done to the 13B-REW?

finnicky7 04-25-07 06:55 AM

Here is a list of mods:

Engine:
Banzai Racing 13brew w/S4 Rotors
850cc Primaries
1680cc Secodaries
Gotham Oil pan brace

Forced Induction:
Garrett T04z 1.00 A/R
CoolingMist Dual Stage H20 inj. (50/50 meth/h20)
Greddy 3-row FMIC

Engine Management:
Power FC
Greddy Profec B

Drivetrain:
TII Diff
ACT 6-Puck
ACT HD Pressure Plate
12# Act Flywheel
Diff brace

That's the most of it.

RICE RACING 04-25-07 07:17 AM

Nice :)

I am using S4 turbo rotors in my super engine too, with slightly lower compression via some rotor porting ;)

Its the only way to go if you want to run serious boost, even on lowish boost they make EXCELLENT power !

I am going to run very similar set up to you but with 1.32 rear AR, my own water injection system and about 29~36psi boost pressure, expecting around 630~650rwhp.

finnicky7 04-25-07 10:59 AM

And: Engine is not pinned with 2mm RA seals
Premix: Amsoil 2-cycle only

pwwatkins 04-25-07 01:05 PM

are you gonna bring this beast to the banzai cookout on the 19th?

dougiepants 04-25-07 01:32 PM

finnicky7 - It will be interesting to see the difference in our #'s since Banzai built both of our motors, but with totally different setups.

S4 13BT w/ Agressive Street Port built using Super Seals all by Banzai Racing
S6 Rotors
T04Z 1.15 A/R Devided Manifold
Custom Devided Equal Length Manifold

And the list goes on...

I can't wait to see your #'s. You didn't have the 13B-REW Ported yet?

finnicky7 04-25-07 03:32 PM

Opps..It has a very large Street Port as well.
I can't make the BBQ my wife is about to pop.

dougiepants 04-25-07 09:50 PM

So you went with the 1.00A/R huh? divided or no? Why that A/R and nothing smaller or larger?

finnicky7 04-26-07 08:34 AM

It's divided. I wanted to start smaller and see how it went. So far to 1.00a/r is plenty strong. With ful boost at 4200 what more could I want. I had a non-BB turbo before this and hated the lag.

KINETIK_FD3S 04-26-07 09:09 AM

looking forward to see your numbers i got my to4z with a 1.00 also :fingersx:

dougiepants 04-26-07 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by finnicky7
It's divided. I wanted to start smaller and see how it went. So far to 1.00a/r is plenty strong. With ful boost at 4200 what more could I want. I had a non-BB turbo before this and hated the lag.

It will be interesting to see the difference of these two cars now. I can't wait to get mine up and running. Are you running the HKS or Greddy manifold?

GoRacer 04-26-07 11:16 AM

^ Can you guys post pics of those manifolds? They are both short runners, correct? I want to see the angle of the flange (how the turbo will sit) and how close they are to the intake manifold. I know the Apexi RX6 manifold is extremely close.

diabolical1 04-26-07 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by RICE RACING
The TO4Z's i use and specify have no surge holes, these reduce spool rate, they reduce PR te tubo can produce, they reduce efficiency, they are bad news all round.

Hey RICE,

could you go into this a bit for me, please? if you feel it's going to foul up this thread, could you PM me. i'd like to know the reasons.

thanks,
1

dougiepants 04-28-07 02:59 PM

So where are the Dyno #'s bud???

finnicky7 04-28-07 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by dougiepants
So where are the Dyno #'s bud???

Sorry everyone is going to have to wait a little while. Had some issues with a coolant seal on Thursday morning that finally became extremely apparent. Engine is out right now and will be for a couple weeks. But don't worry 15psi, 25psi and maybe a 30psi on the T04Z is on the horizion. This gave me an excuse to put in the new RA black seals anyways.

RICE RACING 04-28-07 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by diabolical1
Hey RICE,

could you go into this a bit for me, please? if you feel it's going to foul up this thread, could you PM me. i'd like to know the reasons.

thanks,
1

any type of anti surge system costs ultimate turbine speed and pressure (due to decreased aero dynamics around the comp wheel). It was as I think I posted only ever created to increase map width of a turbocharger and NOT flow or pressure ratio. This is why i dont use them and many others (notably supra people) delete anti surge housings because they are junk.

reduced flow
reduced boost
increased spool time
reduced surge (not relevant to a 13B running T4 sized turbo)

^ so you can see there is no benifits there for us at all, except a nice whistle :)

GoodfellaFD3S 04-28-07 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by RICE RACING
any type of anti surge system costs ultimate turbine speed and pressure (due to decreased aero dynamics around the comp wheel). It was as I think I posted only ever created to increase map width of a turbocharger and NOT flow or pressure ratio. This is why i dont use them and many others (notably supra people) delete anti surge housings because they are junk.

reduced flow
reduced boost
increased spool time
reduced surge (not relevant to a 13B running T4 sized turbo)

^ so you can see there is no benifits there for us at all, except a nice whistle :)

Exactly why I opted to forego the anti-surge on my 500R after some informed input from Mike/RacerExtreme7 :icon_tup:

Old Slow Coach 04-29-07 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by finnicky7
Sorry everyone is going to have to wait a little while. Had some issues with a coolant seal on Thursday morning that finally became extremely apparent. Engine is out right now and will be for a couple weeks. But don't worry 15psi, 25psi and maybe a 30psi on the T04Z is on the horizion. This gave me an excuse to put in the new RA black seals anyways.

Sorry to hear this, man!!! I had to sell my FD when the motor blew on the dyno. I went ahead and had it rebuilt to get top dollar for selling it. An apex seal failed on the new owner just after a 1300 mile break-in period. Best of luck to you!

finnicky7 04-29-07 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by III Gen X
Sorry to hear this, man!!! I had to sell my FD when the motor blew on the dyno. I went ahead and had it rebuilt to get top dollar for selling it. An apex seal failed on the new owner just after a 1300 mile break-in period. Best of luck to you!

Ya it sucks, but such is life. Nothing good ever comes easy, unfortunately.

dougiepants 05-05-07 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by finnicky7 (Post 6894068)
Ya it sucks, but such is life. Nothing good ever comes easy, unfortunately.


Any news on what caused the failure?

Fd3BOOST 05-08-07 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by dubulup (Post 6855025)
that's one nasty charge pipe.

I'll say. Could you not find any elbows? Good luck with the new motor.

dougiepants 05-09-07 01:41 PM

Any updates yet?

finnicky7 05-09-07 10:07 PM

I won'tbe able to re-build until end of may. Just had a baby! I'll post up as soon as she up and running.

blitzboy 05-10-07 02:20 AM

just an update, I ran these figures on a Ozzie Dynopack
468.2 rwbhp @6.99rpm @1.3 BAR .Torque 375.9 @ 6.016rpm

dougiepants 05-11-07 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by blitzboy (Post 6925587)
just an update, I ran these figures on a Ozzie Dynopack
468.2 rwbhp @6.99rpm @1.3 BAR .Torque 375.9 @ 6.016rpm

What is all done to the motor and mod list?


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