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Islander 04-14-08 12:52 PM

In the dyno vid, when the camera guy did the walk around why was your coolant hose sucked in like that?

infinit1 04-14-08 01:38 PM

Big ups! Hope to join you with a big number myself. should be on the dyno in the next month or two.

ZAN_TUNING 04-14-08 02:33 PM

straight up BAD ASS! i love seeing rotaries getting pushed above and beyond... oh wait.. don't you "need" the center bearing? :rofl:

JK ernie!

the real test will be how long does it hold at that level?

GRRRREAT SUCCESS INDEED tho!

pp13bnos 04-14-08 03:12 PM

I could tell that you guys where having trouble with the idle, so you had to keep giving it some throttle, but when it was close to idle, it sounded like it had a bit of a lump to it. Didn't sound much like a stockish port with open exhaust to me. But, thats just my .02. :D Nice work though! CJ

tearbo2 04-14-08 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by pp13bnos (Post 8092455)
I could tell that you guys where having trouble with the idle, so you had to keep giving it some throttle, but when it was close to idle, it sounded like it had a bit of a lump to it. Didn't sound much like a stockish port with open exhaust to me. But, thats just my .02. :D Nice work though! CJ

the reason I did that is because i wanted to make sure it was still alive !!!!! the engine idles at 750-850 rpm w/ no problem !!!! o and as for the exhaust theres a muffler on it, but trust me it's stock . I would not come on here and make that up, I would be an idot if i did. so the real question is . is porting worth it in a rotary ?
I know that i'm not changing ANYTHING !!!!!!


thanks for your .02, I have alot in my pm !!!!! lol..........:)

ZAN_TUNING 04-14-08 03:22 PM

your last S5 TII engine was it completely stock port as well? didnt you get close to 600whp with that?

Chaotic_FC 04-14-08 03:34 PM

thats absofuckinglutely amazing
you must have had some incredibly good tuning to achieve that much HP on stock ports.
but i wonder what you could achieve on a ported out motor with the same person tuning your car.. muahahaha

tearbo2 04-14-08 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Intense_Motorsports (Post 8092499)
your last S5 TII engine was it completely stock port as well? didnt you get close to 600whp with that?

yep, 557 whp @ 30 psi, w/ haltech e6k !!!!!!

GORRIRA 04-14-08 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by tearbo2 (Post 8092562)
yep, 557 whp @ 30 psi, w/ haltech e6k !!!!!!

So, what's different now than before ? Does the RE motor flow that much better than the S5 motor ?

TweakGames 04-14-08 03:43 PM

I hope you don't mind me posting this link. This seems to be right after the dyno, about 10 seconds in you can hear his idle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjgs_...eature=related

Amazing indeed. Congrats bud, KEEP it alive!!!

tearbo2 04-14-08 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Chaotic_FC (Post 8092548)
thats absofuckinglutely amazing
you must have had some incredibly good tuning to achieve that much HP on stock ports.
but i wonder what you could achieve on a ported out motor with the same person tuning your car.. muahahaha

good 1 , I wouln't say that i'm the best in tuning, i've had alot of practice @ my expense, as for the ported engine, maybe later when I can't make any more power w/ the "stock ports" :Wconfused

Japan2LA 04-14-08 05:11 PM

Excellent work LEE!!!!!! Guys I understand its hard to believe but its TRUE!

KaiFD3S 04-14-08 05:14 PM

Wow...must be fun to drive...or a handfull....lol..

ErnieT 04-14-08 06:02 PM

Lee,
Lemmie know how that tranny holds, lol...:D

Japan2LA 04-14-08 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by ErnieT (Post 8093161)
Lee,
Lemmie know how that tranny holds, lol...:D

I have a stack of them here for him....infact sending him 3 spares today...

GORRIRA 04-14-08 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Japan2LA (Post 8093222)
I have a stack of them here for him....infact sending him 3 spares today...

Do you have alot of RE parts laying around, like housings/plates ?

Japan2LA 04-14-08 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by GORRIRA (Post 8093237)
Do you have alot of RE parts laying around, like housings/plates ?

Complete longblocks=yes

USED parts=Sometimes...and I always have Brand New parts..

GORRIRA 04-14-08 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Japan2LA (Post 8093246)
USED Sometimes...and I always have Brand New parts..

I'll leave the brand new parts for the rich white people. I'll holler at you down the road.

Japan2LA 04-14-08 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by GORRIRA (Post 8093250)
I'll leave the brand new parts for the rich white people. I'll holler at you down the road.

Actually the NEW RE parts are cheaper than the FD parts.. Go figure??

t-von 04-14-08 06:37 PM

Is it me or does the turbo in the video look smaller than a GT42? Are you spraying as well?

Japan2LA 04-14-08 06:42 PM

No spray yet.....

Turbo = "76mm to4 non b/b gts wheel, .96 hotside"


Yes, a TO4

tearbo2 04-14-08 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Japan2LA (Post 8093222)
I have a stack of them here for him....infact sending him 3 spares today...

Thanks 2 "japan2la" cuz i'm gonna need them thats for sure ............. gonna try and break the factory gear box record held by ari yallon 9.27 @ 15? then when i'm done w/ that will go w/ a g force and really get crazy and go after the 8's in street trim !!!!!!! hey there jus goals right ??????

AnthonyNYC 04-14-08 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by tearbo2 (Post 8085396)
I am now going after my next goal and that is to run faster than 9.27

Congrats again on the numbers. At the last few events I've spoken to a number of the guys from PR and they are not using the 2 piece shafts either and making a lot of HP.

You mentioned you made mid 500's with a Haltech. What do you think are the major things that contributed to you making 200HP more with 5lbs more boost.

Anthony

13B-RX3 04-14-08 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC (Post 8093390)
What do you think are the major things that contributed to you making 200HP more with 5lbs more boost.

Anthony


I touched the car :lol::lol::lol:.

tearbo2 04-14-08 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC (Post 8093390)
Congrats again on the numbers. At the last few events I've spoken to a number of the guys from PR and they are not using the 2 piece shafts either and making a lot of HP.

You mentioned you made mid 500's with a Haltech. What do you think are the major things that contributed to you making 200HP more with 5lbs more boost.

Anthony

4 ch ign w/ haltech e-11 is the major one (4 msd boxes 4 msd coils) I saw that abel did it w/ a motec, and now you can do it w/ haltech !!!!! halleffect sesor setup (rotary performance) custom built "short runner" header (protech performance) 76mm vs 74mm / gts vs gtq /4 inch vs 3 inch full ex / lil tuning lol .. / 13bre
i know it don't look like a 200hp increase but it is ......................:) o yeah and a bone stock 20 b throttle body sum bitch flows !!!!!!!!!!!!

afterburn27 04-14-08 07:32 PM

That engine bay makes me happy, all business. :)

Nice numbers.

cosmo105 04-14-08 07:32 PM

Not to go on a tangent but how much difference is their between the 13b Cosmo and the 20b Cosmo throttle body?

Japan2LA 04-14-08 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by tearbo2 (Post 8093458)
4 ch ign w/ haltech e-11 is the major one (4 msd boxes 4 msd coils) I saw that abel did it w/ a motec, and now you can do it w/ haltech !!!!! halleffect sesor setup (rotary performance) custom built "short runner" header (protech performance) 76mm vs 74mm / gts vs gtq /4 inch vs 3 inch full ex / lil tuning lol .. / 13bre
i know it don't look like a 200hp increase but it is ......................:) o yeah and a bone stock 20 b throttle body sum bitch flows !!!!!!!!!!!!

Lee take some credit.. You built the motor. even the machine work and you tuned it.. That 769RWHP is all your doing...

Japan2LA 04-14-08 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by cosmo105 (Post 8093506)
Not to go on a tangent but how much difference is their between the 13b Cosmo and the 20b Cosmo throttle body?

A few mm difference and yes, it makes a difference

cosmo105 04-14-08 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Japan2LA (Post 8093514)
A few mm difference and yes, it makes a difference

The butterflies are a couple of mm larger?

justturbo2 04-14-08 09:35 PM

dam awsome #'s. congrats

RX794 04-14-08 11:22 PM

Is there any way you can post a dyno sheet with a TQ reading?

pp13bnos 04-15-08 12:57 AM

My bad. I listened to that second link, and you're right. :)

I did notice that you where running nitrous though...how much ya running? :D

ErnieT 04-15-08 05:35 AM

Lee do you have the dyno sheet showing the torque curve? I just wanted to overlay with mine to compare how each turbo ramps. Thanks

PDF 04-15-08 06:35 AM

Since no one else has asked.... what apex seals are you using?? Mazda 2mm?

Awesome numbers by the way, it goes to show how much the tune can make it or break it.

Xcentric 04-15-08 09:03 AM

Lee, when you called me, It was 6am in Vegas and my wife almost killed me.
I am so happy for you- you've held firm to the stock port/ high compression way-
and it's paying off. I know I've learned alot from you and am just excited.

No, he was'nt spraying

and protech has a problem getting torque # on the rotary-

tearbo2 04-15-08 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by ErnieT (Post 8094928)
Lee do you have the dyno sheet showing the torque curve? I just wanted to overlay with mine to compare how each turbo ramps. Thanks

hey ernie if I could I would, we could only record speed/power. I will say that the real tune was done on the street, and runnin 35 psi was sick. didn't start breaking the tires loose until 30 psi, I also WANT to know what the torque is ???
I asked alot of well known dyno gurus guys about my #'s and they said power is power the torque is calculated w/ speed/power/rpm but dammm I want to know !!!!!!!! I wanted to get video of me playing on the street, but thats against the law lol............... :rolleyes:

maybe when the nos tune comes i will get a before and after

zenofspeed 04-15-08 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by tearbo2 (Post 8085396)
NO BS , I myself can't belive it last night @ protech performance in austin tx, raised the boost to 35 psi, this was done on a dyno jet w/ sae setting I am now
offical dyno queen, but I am now going after my next goal and that is to run faster than 9.27 stay tuned will post dyno sheet and video after HIN here in austin tx, we will be on the rollers again today @ HIN so everybody can see for themselves that this is no BS

a special thanks to hass @ PROTECH PERFORMANCE


ari @ ROTARY PERFORMANCE

brian "japan2la" for a great deal on the 13bre engine

:icon_tup: AWESOME!

+1 for the Protech team

I was up there on Friday and Hass stopped what he was doing (with HIN the next day) to help me fix my boost gauge. also, he just told me how to fix a couple things (PS leak, etc.) instead of being greedy and having me leave the car. Great guy and great shop!

Dude I want to see your car in person, lol.

I have an RP built motor at 305whp on twins, but may have protech help with the single conversion, fuel, etc. etc.

tearbo2 04-15-08 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by PDF (Post 8094971)
Since no one else has asked.... what apex seals are you using?? Mazda 2mm?

Awesome numbers by the way, it goes to show how much the tune can make it or break it.

rotary performance 3 mm (arinator) I wonder if they can hold 40 psi ??????


I think they can !!!!!!


my egt's were 8.5 c in both runners , that was a lil task. but thanks to the haltech e11 it can be done w/ out changing intake flow !!!!!

zenofspeed 04-15-08 10:51 AM

With enough data points, a graphing program should be able to provide the torque curve. Just need to know rpm and hp. Build your HP curve data points in the program, then plug in the torque formula, voila.

Your sheet shows mph not rpm, which is another thing we'd need to convert.

blitzboy 04-15-08 11:01 AM

Wow I know the intake ports on the 13Bre are pretty large but this power on stock ports is incrediable, j ust shows you if the turbo,Exhaust,Intake,cooler have no restrictions you can make the power .
Congrats
Just to confirm was this all done on plain vanilla C16?

tearbo2 04-15-08 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by blitzboy (Post 8095533)
Wow I know the intake ports on the 13Bre are pretty large but this power on stock ports is incrediable, j ust shows you if the turbo,Exhaust,Intake,cooler have no restrictions you can make the power .
Congrats
Just to confirm was this all done on plain vanilla C16?

actually i'm using the new vp Q-16 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS FUEL !!!!!!!!

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/index2.html

GORRIRA 04-15-08 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by tearbo2 (Post 8097150)
actually i'm using the new vp Q-16 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS FUEL !!!!!!!!

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/index2.html

This explains a little as to why you made alot of HP. I have some buddies who have tested this in their late models............. they swear by the hp increase.

ZAN_TUNING 04-15-08 09:20 PM

we always use Torco 116, but i have really been curious to try the Q16. been hearing good things about it!

AnthonyNYC 04-16-08 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by tearbo2 (Post 8097150)
actually i'm using the new vp Q-16 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS FUEL !!!!!!!!

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/index2.html

Thanks for sharing, I'm sure most here appreciate the fact you are answering all the questions and sharing what you did to make the HP. Now get that badboy down the track! :) Goal is 9.26!

Anthony

88fc3sw/HX83 04-16-08 04:34 AM

so everyone wasted their money getting their engines ported when all we needed to do was turn up the boost and run racing fuel?

mazgtr 04-16-08 04:45 AM

no cause everybody builds a diffrent setup
unless you copy every thing down to the bolt and have him tune it you will not get the same result....

It does not take 700 HP to run nines

Time Machine ran 8.8 in the 1/4 mile with 584 RWHP full bodied untubed FC
Sporty 's FULL weight street FD ran 9.7 1/4 mile with 600 RWHP

blitzboy 04-16-08 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by tearbo2 (Post 8097150)
actually i'm using the new vp Q-16 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS FUEL !!!!!!!!

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/index2.html

Hey thanks for the info bud, props for answering all the questions on your setup, I need all the help I can get in beating the Skyline\Supra boys in the street driven class over here in the UK :icon_tup:

I will be turning the boost up real soon on the Dyno

blitzboy 04-16-08 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by 88fc3sw/HX83 (Post 8098548)
so everyone wasted their money getting their engines ported when all we needed to do was turn up the boost and run racing fuel?

no not really for us street driven guys we need the porting spool up large turbos quickly when running normal boost levels at 14psi on pump fuel on the road, so with porting we can get more volume of air hence more power out of the engine at 14psi then say without porting and drive it everyday without the cost of race fuel.

What Tearbo2 goals are is a drag car that runs high boost on race fuel reliably and proving you dont necessarly need porting to get big power, if he run that motor at 14psi on pump fuel he would probably have less numbers or less sppol up then the ported guys but then again he is not driving it on the street daily and does not care about spool up as he is in the 6k to 9k zone anyways on the strip, but I maybe wrong

But its just an awesome build with the result to back it up well done Tearbo2 :icon_tup:

Barry Bordes 04-16-08 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Japan2LA (Post 8093337)
No spray yet.....

Turbo = "76mm to4 non b/b gts wheel, .96 hotside"


Yes, a TO4

Isn't it a Precision Turbo PT-76? Then I believe it has a 102mm compressor exducer and a 81mm turbine inducer. A large (for me) turbo.

Very solid performer. Great job!

Barry


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