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solorx7freak 04-07-08 12:21 AM

Modding primary rail
 
Im in the process of putting together my gt35, i have a fuel rail, fuel pump, and 1600 cc injectors. Im planning on using my 850 as my primaries.

The problem at this point is I dont know what i need to do to modd the primary rail. I read about it but cant find a thread about it showing what needs to be done..

Any help, or link would be much appreaciated..

rofuz 04-07-08 05:48 AM

http://www.banzai-racing.com/pd_elimination_how-to.htm

Banzai-Racing 04-07-08 07:26 AM

You need to take it to a machine shop and have them cut .125" off the top of the rail. This allows the 850's to sit lower in the rail and prevent leaks.

DMoneyRX-7 04-07-08 09:08 AM

David Garfinkle also does this modification for only $5. PM him "Garco Motorworks."

Oh and just so you know, tuning with 850's in the primaries can be a bitch. Hopefully you have someone good to take care of your tuning.

charlies7 04-07-08 09:19 AM

wow thats stupid cheap...I see most shops charging 50 minimum


Originally Posted by DMoneyRX-7 (Post 8065446)
David Garfinkle also does this modification for only $5. PM him "Garco Motorworks."

Oh and just so you know, tuning with 850's in the primaries can be a bitch. Hopefully you have someone good to take care of your tuning.


DMoneyRX-7 04-07-08 09:43 AM

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/how-modify-850cc-fit-primary-82244/

I found this just to make sure I wasn't imagining something.

solorx7freak 04-07-08 10:20 AM

Thank you all for the info.. I will be contacting someone from the list to get it done..

Thank you once more.....

rofuz 04-08-08 02:40 AM

you can also just use two o-rings

Turblown 04-08-08 03:08 AM

You should do more than just machine the top of the fuel rail. Take a close look at where both the upper and lower o-rings seal and you will see what I'm taking about....

mono4lamar 04-08-08 05:06 PM

Milling 1/8" off is all you need. Besides taking the slight burr off the edge I'm not sure what else you would need to do. I've sold over 20 modded fuel rails with no problems ever...

PandazRx-7 04-08-08 07:05 PM

We used a belt sander...took like 2 minutes.

cewrx7r1 04-08-08 10:22 PM

Unless you are planning to make a lot of power, 850 primaries are hard to properly tune idle and low cruise.
Use 550 primaries with the FJO driver for the Bosch 1600 secondaries, and you will have a lot of fuel with a system easier to properly tune.

My duty cycle at 15psi boost is only 69% with this setup. Before with resistors on the 1600, it was in the high 70%.

Turblown 04-10-08 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by cewrx7r1 (Post 8072664)
Unless you are planning to make a lot of power, 850 primaries are hard to properly tune idle and low cruise.
Use 550 primaries with the FJO driver for the Bosch 1600 secondaries, and you will have a lot of fuel with a system easier to properly tune.

My duty cycle at 15psi boost is only 69% with this setup. Before with resistors on the 1600, it was in the high 70%.

Agreed. I will never again do 850cc primaries with the PFC. Too many negative side affects..

rexone 04-10-08 02:08 PM

i will trade you i have a modded primary rail and i want the factory one to go back to 550'ss

mono4lamar 04-10-08 02:55 PM

I have top feed 850's in my car and the car idles great! I've also installed a modded primary rail with 850's into a couple peoples cars and they run just as good as the factory ones. On one car it actually idled better after the 850's went in!!! :dunno:

PandazRx-7 04-11-08 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by mono4lamar (Post 8079490)
I have top feed 850's in my car and the car idles great! I've also installed a modded primary rail with 850's into a couple peoples cars and they run just as good as the factory ones. On one car it actually idled better after the 850's went in!!! :dunno:

Same here! I just installed 850's in primary and 4 1000's injectors in secondary. At first I thought the idle was slightly lumpy because of the 850 injectors, but after messing with the idle adjustment and air bleed screw on the TB, I have it rock solid! Plus I still use the Idle Speed Control... Injector duty at idle is 3.5%, not sure what that means, but with my stock twins it was 4.5%...

Another thing to note, I'm using an Xcessive LIM, which elimates the air injection at idle to the primary rail...

Banzai-Racing 04-11-08 01:53 PM

I have no problem tuning 850 primaries either, idle & drivability are perfect.

solorx7freak 04-13-08 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by rexone (Post 8079320)
i will trade you i have a modded primary rail and i want the factory one to go back to 550'ss

sorry bud, I had it done the first day after I found out what to do.. Otherwise I would have done it for you.........


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