Ford Diesel Turbos
There are a couple of sweet looking Garrett turbos on ebay for a good price but I can't find any more info than that it's a T04E. Anybody know anything more about these turbos like A/R etc?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...200008&r=0&t=0 Rebuilt Garrett Turbocharger for Ford Trucks 7.8L Engines - Garrett # T04E14 466290-1X {Original Ford # E8HZ-6K682-AX}. http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/E8HZ-6K682-AX.jpg |
Is there any reason that you wouldn't want this turbo on A RX-7? Is it the same TO4E that you would get from some aftermarket shop?
Mike |
you'll just need to check the exhuast housing A/R size. everything else is all fine and dandy for the rx7
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a friend of mine bought one of these turbos. its pretty nice for the money. the a/r's were a .70 compressor and 1.00 on the exhaust turbine. with a p trim wheel. we took it to a local turbo shop and this one was the smaller t04e ford has a bigger one that has a bigger compressor wheel. but that one has like a 1.25 on the exhaust side.
James |
cool i wonde how much ford directly charges
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Well damn a .7 comp 1.0 A/R P-trim divided for $375 or so sounds great!
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So are you saying that if you can get a turbo off of a power stroke ford truck it would work with no modifications, or few modifications? Just curious because I have just started looking for a single, not real sure what i want, but something in the to4e to apexi ballbearing range.
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A turbo is a turbo. As long as the specs meet your requirements then go ahead and get it. Its sounds like a deal to me.
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If that is the bigger one (which is looks like it is) as Mako said the exhaust housing is huge, but its 1.32, not 1.25!!! But you really dont want to get it... Trust me...
Its a 57trim compressor wheel, it maxes out at just over 400hp... We ran one and would loose 5psi by redline. Dropped from 15 to 10!!! The compressor wheel cant flow the power for that size turbo for our motor. :( |
The newer Ford Diesels run a much bigger turbo than the one above. They have internal wasgates too. Plus they spin backawards(anti clockwise) from coventional ones!
crispeed 87TII 9.20@150mph |
I have a Powerstroke and have asked these same questions to no avail. The turbo is a TP-38. Mine has a 1.15A/R turbine and a 1.1A/R compressor. I believe the newer ones actually have a smaller turbine housing and a built in wastegate. Mine is non wastegated and puts about 20PSI to a 444 cu in. engine at around 2700 RPM so you can kinda know what the airflow is. Oh, and the powerstroke is a 7.3L not 7.8... so I'm kinda wary about what they know about their product.
Don. |
I can't find reference to the Garret part number anywhere on the net, can we call Garret and ask them? Somebody must know for sure given a part number.
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Loses pressure to 10psi at redline... hey perfect, no need for expensive wastegates and lots of midrange grunt :)
If you think $375 for a turbo is cheap, check out the intercoolers.... a P/S itercooler MIGHT fit under the hood of an FC if you took the engine out first and they only cost $200... now imagine buying one, cutting it in half, fabbing new end tanks, and selling one of the intercoolers for "only" $400 to a bud and keeping the other one for yourself! |
the intercooler from a 92 isuzu npr truck fits great BTw whats the flow rating on one of those.
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Initial D, you must've gotten a different one. The specs on mine are different than that. Did you ever find any good info on those turbos? I could never find flow maps or anything. I have always liked to find wierd things like those to put on my RX7 cuz I used to be broke a$$. I am going to get a Freightliner intercooler and cut it and TIG the tanks for my next project. I know that some of these custom products offer some advantage... but I don't think all of them are worth that much more $$.
Don. |
Gearhead, what year is your powerstroke? It seems your turbo's A/Rs are fine. is there a part number other than tp-38?
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Ok. The turbo at the top of this page must be a Ford turbo from the Navistar (International) 466 or something. My '97 powerstroke has a A/R1.1 comp. and 1.15 turb. The part # is a 1825818C91. I don't know if that's Ford, Navistar, or Garrett (Allied Research). I'll try to find a pic to post 4 you guys. I just assumed that when someone is selling a Ford diesel turbo that it's a powerstroke. Because big rigs built by Ford are branded Sterling. Maybe it's an older Ford rig turbo. Mine also has a band clamp on the turbine. If I find one... I'm gonna buy it and try it.
Don. |
Originally posted by Gearhead Ok. The turbo at the top of this page must be a Ford turbo from the Navistar (International) 466 or something. My '97 powerstroke has a A/R1.1 comp. and 1.15 turb. The part # is a 1825818C91. I don't know if that's Ford, Navistar, or Garrett (Allied Research). |
hmmm Turbonetics T3 Garrett T4 TURBO ball bearing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=600592756 $285. Used but doesn't look in too bad of condition. E-Bay turbos, not bad. "YOU ARE BIDDING ON A BRAND NEW GARRETT TURBOCHARGER. APPLICATION UNKNOWN. COMES WITH METAL GASKETS. IT WAS SEALED IN THE BAG, TOOK IT OUT FOR PICTURES ONLY. PART#465960-5003 MODEL#TO4B58 A/R .60 --A/R EXHAUST 1.00 SUPER CLEAN. " http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=600628337 Garrett T61 A/R 1.00 46 trim compressor wheel?!?! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=600399223 New Ford PowerStroke Intercooler 30"x18"x2" $225, $260 Buy It Now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...580125&r=0&t=0 There are a couple of these for sale Used Isuzu NPR Intercooler 16"x13 1/2"x2 1/2" $150 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...745137&r=0&t=0 |
HAHAHA $260 Buy it now!
You can go to your local Ford dealer and BUY IT NOW for less than $260! |
Originally posted by peejay Loses pressure to 10psi at redline... hey perfect, no need for expensive wastegates and lots of midrange grunt :) If you think $375 for a turbo is cheap, check out the intercoolers.... a P/S itercooler MIGHT fit under the hood of an FC if you took the engine out first and they only cost $200... now imagine buying one, cutting it in half, fabbing new end tanks, and selling one of the intercoolers for "only" $400 to a bud and keeping the other one for yourself! |
Initial D is right they are not enough compressor for rx-7's we had one on our car for testing, all our other turbo's were getting rebuilt, best we could get was 11.4, on 1.4 60' not good enough, 300hp is about it.
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I guess that whole counter clockwise thing would make it a little hard to get a different compressor wheel and housing. It's odd that it can only support 300HP on an RX7. I know of Powerstrokes making 400 HP with these turbos and about 800LB ft. I know it's different engines and fuels... The most common turbo upgrade on a powerstroke is a SMALLER exhaust housing to help it spool.
If the turbo that started this thread is different... actually a T04E then It could be a good deal. How would one go about finding more info on these? Don. |
Ok. I'm gonna try it. I found a Powerstroke turbo off of a '01 for $150 with the pedestal. I can sell the pedestal to someone... or if it won't work, I'll just put the turbo on my truck. Hell, it's quite a bit bigger than the turbo on my TII anyway. Surely it'll flow a little more. Any more info on this?
Don. |
I have that turbo thats in the picture in the first post, I made 365 rwhp at 17 psi on a S4 motor..Max
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Hmmm, back from the dead. I wonder if theres a list of the A/R's on powerstroke turbos.
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The powerstroke turbo is smaller than the one in the pic, its as first mentioned, the 7.8 litre turbo is the one that works pretty good, the powerstroke is the 7.3 litre ford.. Similar turbo's can be found on detroit and catapillar diesels as well...
I learnt alot about these turbo's when I went searching for the v-band clamp and exhaust ferrule for the turbine side at diesel engine shops.. I also saw alot of TV48's and garrett T-51's meant for diesel trucks, if you knew exactly what you were looking for part number wise, you could score a really wicked turbo for about 1/2 the cost of what you would pay at a "tuner/performance" shop for a automotive performance turbo and you would more or less end up with the same thing.. All of the turbo's that are motorsport turbos, were at one time or another used in a diesel application somewhere...Max |
T-51? Like the HKS T51 size? or is it just a similar naming for the turbo?
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It may just be similar tagging, I can't say for sure, I have only seen an HKS t-51 once..
I know there are some bloody great turbo's out there and if you are brave enough to buy them they can be had for 250-300 a piece, plus alot of them have built in wastegates I noticed.. My turbo is at a turbo specialist getting fixed right now, I am gonna look at some bigger diesel turbo's when I go back there and will let you know what I see..Max |
Im using a desiel turbo on my FC, its a TV73-01 Garret off of a Detroit 2stroke. Now i called TurboPerformance to see if this would work and the answer i got was yes. It has a comp .78 and turbine 1.08, the flange is a bit bigger than a T4 so were making one. The guy i got it from was using it on a 3rd gen and running a 10.20 et. The only problem we seem to be running into is its quite heavy. I had my local turbo guy whos doing the work on it check the price and its 700 wholesale, but still in production. I wont know for about 2 months how it runs but ill keep ya up to date.
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Hey Its RISKY7 ,I too have the "Ford" turbo TO4E..70 comp, 1.00 turbine. Prt# E7HN 6K682 BA 466290-16 , TO4E 14 . 1st Gen Turbo made 496 WHP. 16 PSI. works for me.
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how close is the 3rd gen turbo manifold to the 2nd gen manifold?
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Not close at all.
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