give me 1200 to the tires and I'll eventually want more.....

no point here

Too much is never enough.

There is always the boost controller you can dial back. REmember that we have adjustable HP with the turbo.

I tend to only turn the knob one way thoough.....up........ :bigthumb:

HP GAME, that is what every one want at first.... Because we houman will got used to that Speed(for straight line) very fast. about Two week you will need more.... and drive in straight line is one of easy thing you can do when you own a FAST CAR....

My point is for best balance set up on RX7. you wont need more than 400 WHP. any thing behind that is kind da useless. Since I drove alot on Road Course. Bside the power, you also need to slow down fast enought to turn( stock brake and PAD wont slow you down that much...), and got the suspension to hold that power.
Rotary will never have enoght like piston engine.. But we got very very good chassic to drive fast, and wonderful RE!!!!

That's what I'm saying. Why have the HP there and no use it? Kind of like those homos who say they've got 4,000 hp but "detune" it for street use . lol

That is the best reply to this thread as of yet. I fully agree with this.

But RedRx-7 made a good point as well. I have seen his old dyno sheet when he had 630rwhp. Even then it was a street driven car. If you use your brain and don't just floor the throttle every time you get the chance then I don't see a problem with more than 400rwhp. Maybe that's just me though.

Zach

Well, I run 10psi for a few reasons. The way my car sits now it doesn't like/need the power it makes at 15psi. I'd have to think running at 10psi will make the engine last longer than at 15. For me to make 400rwhp I'd probably have to run 18-20psi, that I don't want to do on pump 92.

DCrosby, I was really surprised at how much more linear the T04S is than the twins, such that I feel more control over my ~400 rwhp at 15lbs on the T04S than the 330 rwhp at 15 lbs on the twins. That transition can really snap the rear out in unpredictable ways. Also, with the advancements in single turbo technology, aftermarket ecus with timing changes, MUCH better tire technology than 10 years ago with better variety of wheel fitments, 400 rwhp is much easier to drive now than it was 10 years ago.

Adding the diff brace and other suspension tricks to eliminate wheel hop also makes the tiger a bit easier to control on low speed accelleration as well.

I do believe there is a finite limit to the amount of street bhp you want (no more than is controllable), but that limit goes up with time because of technology advancements.

I believe it was dan gurney(sp?) that said it best..."until the car has enough HP to spin its tires from one corner to the next...it needs more power" He was talking about the 1200 hp can-am cars....I believe...that he didn't think they had quite enough power yet.

john

Hey for an FD what would be the most efficient suspension upgrades? Since we have the most effective ways to gain HP or Gain reliability. I.E in what order would you do them?

I'd say somewhere from 550-600rwhp before it becomes too powerfull for the street. Hwy rolls are another thing though.

BTW, why are you guys having so much traction problems? 1badd7 has around 470rwhp and his shit strait hooks up in any gear except 1st. I keep on thinking what these people are talking about when they say they have 400rwhp and are spinning in 3rd. How the hell is that possible? Is that really the case for you 400rwhp guys? Or are you spinning from 1st through 3rd and then telling people you're having traction problems?

I have to admit, driving a 470rwhp FD was kinda scary at first. Then after a while, you wonder if it lost any power cause it just doesn't feel the same. I'm sure all of you know exactly what I'm talking about

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I know Exactly what you're talking about and am dreadding the day that I put in my GT35/40 and the following week / month that it will take me to feel like I need more...

That is not what I'm really talking about though, there seems to be a limit as to how much HP you can put to the ground with a certain weight to hold the tires down (Gross Vehicle Wight)... and I'm personally more interested in Auto-X or Road Course Racing, where you want to get on the gas out of a turn to catch up to that "_____" car and pass him... I can only immagine making an error in judgement on that can be just as harsh a lesson as braking too late and running off course....

And I do understand the more = better, but I also think that you can overdo things, as I've learned the hard way with suspension braces and all the other "Performance" junk on my car, it's a track car with a license plate.... and drives like one.... yet I drive it to work everyday....

How much on the street? I believe its a personal taste thing. If you are like me and assume you need at least 650hp to buck wind. Then you will probably have the reasoning to believe that'd be streetable also. btw.. 650hp is a safety thing. I can minimize the time in the passing lane thereby increasing the safety of my passenger.

You have reached the limits of sane RWHP when you have to exchange rubber tires for metal earthmover tread because any skin you try simply evaporates upon acceleration.

I'll use that as a gauge :rlaugh:

I have to agree with you guys, I have had 404 rwhp for about 3 months and already dropped it off for more, you become so use to it , it makes me want more, and thats scary

yea

does anyone know what is too much to be street legal??

sorry bout this but i need 5 post counts so..

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last one guys, so sorry.

that thread is 4 years old.....

Why do people keep takin shots at the t78?is it that bad?I just had one fitted but i'll have it back this week and can start driving it.Can't wait for it.