Compressor A/R bigger than hotside?
Hey, I was at the junk yard today about to take a turbo off of a diesel ford that got t-boned when the guy came up to me and told me he wanted to sell the whole engine... then he said that he had a new turbo in the office. So I went and looked at it, brand new, you could lick it :p:
Anyways... it had a 1.00a/r compressor and a 0.85 turbine or hotside or whatever... Ive never heard of it being that way before. Is there any advantage to this? Maybe spools faster and flows more air? I dunno... Would this work on a 13b? Thanks guys :) |
This does make sense for a diesel engine. Having heavier moving components (piston, connecting rod, etc.) they dont rev very high therefore dont really create much for exhaust flow so a small exhaust a/r would work for them. They can, however, sustain relatively high amounts of boost, hence the large compressor a/r.
Rotaries, however, are the almost exact opposite. They can spool turbos with large a/r's, (at least partly due to the high egt) but can't really take boost worth a shit. In conclusion, I don't think that turbo would work for you. BTW anyone can feel free to correct me as these are mostly theories based on MY knowledge. |
the only thing limiting how much boost you can run in a rotary is your fuel supply, oh and of course how big your balls are
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Plus, you need platiunum coated "flux - capacitors"!
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lol so whats the deal guys? I have the fuel to run a good amount of boost... Just wondering how this turbo with that a/r combination would work on a 13bt :)
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I don't think it would work very well at all. I suppose I should have said that rotaries can't really boost tons on pump gas...I guess maybe it takes more octane for a rotary to be able to run the same amount of boost as a piston engine?
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uhhm no.... i run 18-20lbs on 93 octane pump gas for the last several months... it all depends on your timing and how efficiently that air is compressed. using a less efficient smaller turbo will creat alot of heat at that level of boost and will be prone to detonation...but with less timing and better efficiency i.e. my t78 i can run these levels... just liek a piston engine. i
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well fuck. There goes that theory...
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this turbo would work fine if what hes looking for is low end boost(of course if the turbo is sized rigth in its otehr specs). having a larger turbine/hotside will cause you to build boost later and have a higher top end horsepower
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possible backpressure problems with those a/rs.
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true it may actually overspin the turbine since the rotaries make alot of exhaust at higher revs..
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Hi Bros,
I have a series4 13bt with portings done and 8 injectors running with a microtech MT-8. The problem I'm facing is my turbo. It's a TO4E, but with a rather small Hot side. The compressor has an AR.70, what can be the down factor for this setup? My car is a first gen rx7, and will be boosting u till 25psi on semi-slicks. What do you think of my chances in the 1/4mile against the 500hp evos and wrxs? Should I upgrade my turbo? |
i have yet to personally see a 500 hp wrx or evo..so i dont know
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Well, there's a 500hp evo, running full HKS setup 2.2L block, with a HKS TO4R boosting up to 2bar, except using a microtech LT-8. Trust me this car is fast. Seems on par with an 800hp skyline with hollinger gearbox. But not 1/4mile, but just 300meters drag. Anyway, back to my question should I upgrade the hot side of my turbo to a larger housing? Will be heading for the 1/4mile drag next mth. Thanks!
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you're going to run 25 psi on a t04E?
what are the specs on the turbine? what do these evos and what not run in the 1/4? as for the guy's thread that you highjacked.... i'd say that you would probably have backpressure problems with that small of a turbine....the compressor sounds huge though. it will probably spool up very quickly giving you lots of boost down low and then choke off pretty badly up top. |
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