Anyone Using Nx "n"ter Cooler ?
 

has anyone used the n-ter cooler set up by NX?i heard this was a good setup ?any input would help my decision !

bad idea! n2o might float into the engine bay area and sucked into the engine. If you dont have the fuel for that maybe; maybe not occation then guess what happens, boom!
Thats how it was explained to me. its something like that. It you really really want n20(not the best idea) then spray into the engine.

i believe u have heard wrong ,it is not sprayed into the motor or the intercooler piping,it just simply sprays into the fins of the ic therefore cooling the charged air producing a lower temp of air to be burned.just go read about it ,it sounds like s good idea and the dyno shows it works.

you can also use co2. safe and cheap.

Your not understanding what he is saying though. He's saying that yes you spray it on the IC fins to get it cold. Then since its a vapor your open intake that is sucking in anywhere from 400-1000 cubic feet of air a minute is going to suck in some of that vapor and wola, your getting nitrous down into the engine with no extra fuel.

I'd rather spray propane injection personally

STEPHEN

well u need to look @ how an intercooler is made .it is all sealed and the only way to get it into the intake is if there was a huge leak somewhere down near the fmic.i really dont think it is possible .

You still dont understand. He is saying that when you spray the N20 onto the intercooler, some of the vapors may waft into the engine bay, where the intake filter is almost certain to ingest some of it into the engine. I hope i explained it well enough...

i understand ,but i think it is highly unlikely .but possible i guess.

well from reading this i can see that none of you guys have actually installed/used one of these. it doesnt spray c02 or n20 on anything. it chargers a oval shaped tube, i have also heard it reffered to as a bulb, with one of the two, which ever u choose. the tube gets super cold due to the this. (both are extremely cold in liquid state) it can be mounted on or near the intercooler or intake piping to cool the charge. i helped my friend install one on his turbo charged civic( i personnaly think civics are POS's but thats not the point:) ). significant an noticable power gains can be achieved due tothe coolered denser charge. just turn it on with the flick of a switch when ur racing and it`ll let u run more boost and more advanced timing.

I would like to use an N-teh-cooter. :D

Why not try water injection?

personally i would rather use the Ntercooler. it comes in a nice neat pakage that is easy to instally/use. where as was injection is harder to install, requires tuning, and uses more equiment. water injection does have its benifits, they are pretty much out weighed by those of the Ntercooling system. i say if u got the cash it would be a good investment. easier,better, smaller.

well i still dont quiet believe in that water injection ,which defently goes into the engine .i know it works for some but i would have to see it to believe it.i have heard the cooler can make 50 plus which sounds good to me .i guess i need to research the water inj as well.it may have larger gains ,who knows huh!but thanks for all the input .

yea it makes more since to me too !

I believe you are talking about this Cryogenic Intake System It is not the same product and is not from Nitrous Express.

The N' Tercooler seems to spray out a lot of nitrous. I would be very curious to see how long the bottle lasts.

One major downside to this device however is that it is not legal to run at the track with.

The concept is great and all.

But the product is very GIMMICKY IMO

Do you have any idea how much air your engine is pulling in at WOT!??

It is not unlikely, it is a certainty. You think they picked up 50 hp from cooling alone? Heck no, nitrous oxide went right through the IC fins and into the intake.

VERY VERY gimmicky as Twinturboteddy said. Definately do your research on water injection. Its ability to absorb heat in the combustion chamber is much more effective than a temporary (and quite expensive) and marginally cooler IC discharge.

Alright, I have a question for those with co2 sprayers...
how much psi do you run to the spray rail?

I am getting the N-ter cooler once I install my FMIC and stout hood which has a vent right by the intake so it will be pushing in air so not worried about nitrous getting in the engine. You will need to tune for the lowered intake temps I believe.

I am currently running an Aquamist system (water injection) and have ordered a N-Tercooler sprayer as well.
The bottle that comes with the sprayer is only good for about 3 runs.
It's not illegal at the track unless it sprays liquid. Gas is fine.
I will be running it with a 62-1 BB turbo.
I haven't decided yet if there is any validity to the claim that C02 will get in to your intake. If that is the case, I will use N20.

depends on your car, not everyone here has an FD. It's not a 200 shot. i've seen it and it's actually small.

I've seen back to back dyno's with and without the IC cooler.

After it was cooled it made more power... but the A/Fs got leaner. Seems to me that some of the nitrous found it's way into the intake.

It can't be because of a cooler/denser charge because the AEM that he was using compensates for that (hell my VPC does that).

I'd be very careful with that sprayer.

u can also use CO2 and i believe that would be safe !and it still made the same hp !

Running it with H20 injection, I can afford to go lean.
My worry is using C02. That doesn't combust!
I guess it's time to make a good cold air box!

I have played with a kit similiar to the NX intercooler kit. Believe me, unless you are VERY sure that there is NO WAY you are going to injest N20 into your intake, ie into your engine be very careful with this product. It also makes a big difference whether you are spraying the intercooler while sitting on the dyno with your hood up, ie lots of places for the N2O to disperse to v/s spraying the intercooler while on the road with your hood closed, ie most of the stray N2O flowing through your engine bay and likely being sucked up in your intakes.

You don't HAVE to listen to me, but I have a new motor now (chipped apex seal while playing with N2O and intercooler chilling) and I won't be aimlessly spraying N2O in the area near my intakes... :) I would rather plumb it directly into my intake track and tune for it because the amount of N2O being injested will then be controlled.

K

you broke the pineapple engine ?

i dont know ,i just cant see how there would be enough gettin into the engine bay to do all that .besides co2 is not going to burn .

Sucking C02 in to your intake would be like sucking a rock in there!

how is that ,please explain?

C02 is not combustable.

yea so if its not then it would be like rain ,exhaust or anything else that might get in the air huh ?

Good point!
I dunno, but we will soon see!
I will have my system on Monday.

well hey please keep ue posted !hey how did u get your avatar picture so small ?

a buddy of mine made his own no2 sprayer onto his intercooler. he was already runningn nitrous on his engine se we just added another selenoid and ran some lines to to intercooler. it worked great until he used it one time and the intercooler was too hot and the intercooler cracked when the no2 hit it. i think its pointless and kinda ricey to have the whole n02 on the intercooler. all of these little highschoolers ask me if i am getting the nitrous on my fmic when i buy it. i dont want it if that many little punks ask me about it all the time.

to each his own!i guess

Yeah, the kit really isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Yes, c02 is not combustable, but it does make up a large part of the air we breathe (our bodies actually turn the oxygen we breathe into C02). The car sucks a lot of c02 in anyways, just because it doesn't burn, doesn't mean that its going to hurt the engine. Oxygen only makes up a small part of the air, so its not like the car is normally getting pure oxygen. Nitrous makes the fuel burn hotter and faster than when the engine is just getting normal air and thats why the engine runs leaner. IMO, the c02 would be very safe.

there is a simple way to avoid the N20 or CO2 getting into the intake. for one, if you are realy that serious about getting every little bit of HP you can, you should already have a sealed cold air box for your filter(s) to be mounted in. And as you know, on rotaries, like most cars, the air filter box would be off to one side of the engine bay. If you have the filter right up by the head light in a sealed (from the rest of the engine bay) air box, no N2O or Co2 will get into the intake.

So simply, if yo haven't already done the cold air box, with its own direct cold air feed, and you want the N ter cooler, I would say you are just after rice factor not power as a cold air box would be much cheaper to make than the N Ter cooler system. If you have done this, then you wont have any worries will you!

I thought you sprayed the nitrous or CO2 on the intercooler BEFORE the race to cool off the intercooler. I've seen ppl use fire extinguishers like that while they are at the line. Seems like a waste to spray while your going for an extended period. The intercooler is only going to get so cold.

I remember reading some where gail banks used it on one of his salt flat vehicles, that was sapose to be turbo charged. He did not finish it in time so he just ran it N/a with the IC and a CO2 spray bar on the IC. He did good with that setup if I remember correctly.

i use it on my car and it does make a difference. for any one that wants to use co2 i would not recomend it co2 kills horsepower if it does make it to the air filter and into the engine. i would rather a little bit of nitrous get into the engine then co2.