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Flyinbiya 03-17-03 02:05 PM

Anyone Using Nx "n"ter Cooler ?
 
has anyone used the n-ter cooler set up by NX?i heard this was a good setup ?any input would help my decision !

93redFD 03-17-03 04:04 PM

bad idea! n2o might float into the engine bay area and sucked into the engine. If you dont have the fuel for that maybe; maybe not occation then guess what happens, boom!
Thats how it was explained to me. its something like that. It you really really want n20(not the best idea) then spray into the engine.

Flyinbiya 03-17-03 08:02 PM

i believe u have heard wrong ,it is not sprayed into the motor or the intercooler piping,it just simply sprays into the fins of the ic therefore cooling the charged air producing a lower temp of air to be burned.just go read about it ,it sounds like s good idea and the dyno shows it works.

allrotor93 03-17-03 10:32 PM

you can also use co2. safe and cheap.

SPOautos 03-18-03 09:48 AM


Originally posted by Flyinbiya
i believe u have heard wrong ,it is not sprayed into the motor or the intercooler piping,it just simply sprays into the fins of the ic therefore cooling the charged air producing a lower temp of air to be burned.just go read about it ,it sounds like s good idea and the dyno shows it works.

Your not understanding what he is saying though. He's saying that yes you spray it on the IC fins to get it cold. Then since its a vapor your open intake that is sucking in anywhere from 400-1000 cubic feet of air a minute is going to suck in some of that vapor and wola, your getting nitrous down into the engine with no extra fuel.

I'd rather spray propane injection personally

STEPHEN

Flyinbiya 03-18-03 10:23 AM

well u need to look @ how an intercooler is made .it is all sealed and the only way to get it into the intake is if there was a huge leak somewhere down near the fmic.i really dont think it is possible .

milkman2k52 03-18-03 12:03 PM

You still dont understand. He is saying that when you spray the N20 onto the intercooler, some of the vapors may waft into the engine bay, where the intake filter is almost certain to ingest some of it into the engine. I hope i explained it well enough...

Flyinbiya 03-18-03 12:19 PM

i understand ,but i think it is highly unlikely .but possible i guess.

thatguywiththe7 03-18-03 12:40 PM

well from reading this i can see that none of you guys have actually installed/used one of these. it doesnt spray c02 or n20 on anything. it chargers a oval shaped tube, i have also heard it reffered to as a bulb, with one of the two, which ever u choose. the tube gets super cold due to the this. (both are extremely cold in liquid state) it can be mounted on or near the intercooler or intake piping to cool the charge. i helped my friend install one on his turbo charged civic( i personnaly think civics are POS's but thats not the point:) ). significant an noticable power gains can be achieved due tothe coolered denser charge. just turn it on with the flick of a switch when ur racing and it`ll let u run more boost and more advanced timing.

vudoodoodoo 03-18-03 12:50 PM

I would like to use an N-teh-cooter. :D

vudoodoodoo 03-18-03 12:52 PM

Why not try water injection?

thatguywiththe7 03-18-03 12:59 PM

personally i would rather use the Ntercooler. it comes in a nice neat pakage that is easy to instally/use. where as was injection is harder to install, requires tuning, and uses more equiment. water injection does have its benifits, they are pretty much out weighed by those of the Ntercooling system. i say if u got the cash it would be a good investment. easier,better, smaller.

Flyinbiya 03-18-03 01:00 PM

well i still dont quiet believe in that water injection ,which defently goes into the engine .i know it works for some but i would have to see it to believe it.i have heard the cooler can make 50 plus which sounds good to me .i guess i need to research the water inj as well.it may have larger gains ,who knows huh!but thanks for all the input .

Flyinbiya 03-18-03 01:00 PM

yea it makes more since to me too !

TYSON 03-18-03 02:16 PM


Originally posted by thatguywiththe7
well from reading this i can see that none of you guys have actually installed/used one of these. it doesnt spray c02 or n20 on anything. it chargers a oval shaped tube, i have also heard it reffered to as a bulb, with one of the two, which ever u choose. the tube gets super cold due to the this. (both are extremely cold in liquid state) it can be mounted on or near the intercooler or intake piping to cool the charge. i helped my friend install one on his turbo charged civic( i personnaly think civics are POS's but thats not the point:) ). significant an noticable power gains can be achieved due tothe coolered denser charge. just turn it on with the flick of a switch when ur racing and it`ll let u run more boost and more advanced timing.
I believe you are talking about this Cryogenic Intake System It is not the same product and is not from Nitrous Express.

The N' Tercooler seems to spray out a lot of nitrous. I would be very curious to see how long the bottle lasts.

Crashunit 03-18-03 05:46 PM

One major downside to this device however is that it is not legal to run at the track with.

twinturboteddy 03-18-03 06:35 PM

The concept is great and all.

But the product is very GIMMICKY IMO

Marshall 03-18-03 07:05 PM


i understand ,but i think it is highly unlikely
Do you have any idea how much air your engine is pulling in at WOT!??

It is not unlikely, it is a certainty. You think they picked up 50 hp from cooling alone? Heck no, nitrous oxide went right through the IC fins and into the intake.

VERY VERY gimmicky as Twinturboteddy said. Definately do your research on water injection. Its ability to absorb heat in the combustion chamber is much more effective than a temporary (and quite expensive) and marginally cooler IC discharge.

PvillKnight7 03-18-03 08:09 PM

Alright, I have a question for those with co2 sprayers...
how much psi do you run to the spray rail?

2 hott 03-18-03 09:14 PM

I am getting the N-ter cooler once I install my FMIC and stout hood which has a vent right by the intake so it will be pushing in air so not worried about nitrous getting in the engine. You will need to tune for the lowered intake temps I believe.

RXTASY1 03-27-03 11:55 AM

I am currently running an Aquamist system (water injection) and have ordered a N-Tercooler sprayer as well.
The bottle that comes with the sprayer is only good for about 3 runs.
It's not illegal at the track unless it sprays liquid. Gas is fine.
I will be running it with a 62-1 BB turbo.
I haven't decided yet if there is any validity to the claim that C02 will get in to your intake. If that is the case, I will use N20.

fastrotaries 03-27-03 06:09 PM

depends on your car, not everyone here has an FD. It's not a 200 shot. i've seen it and it's actually small.

Jim Swantko 03-27-03 10:42 PM

I've seen back to back dyno's with and without the IC cooler.

After it was cooled it made more power... but the A/Fs got leaner. Seems to me that some of the nitrous found it's way into the intake.

It can't be because of a cooler/denser charge because the AEM that he was using compensates for that (hell my VPC does that).

I'd be very careful with that sprayer.

Flyinbiya 03-28-03 06:51 AM

u can also use CO2 and i believe that would be safe !and it still made the same hp !

RXTASY1 03-28-03 08:56 AM

Running it with H20 injection, I can afford to go lean.
My worry is using C02. That doesn't combust!
I guess it's time to make a good cold air box!


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