FD Wheel Sizes/Offsets with FEED Front Fenders, Stock Rears
 

Hey guys,

Waiting for a whole bunch of stuff to arrive and I have some questions/requests. Getting the +25mm FEED Front fenders, sticking with the stock rear's but will be doing some lip stretching/rolling...

I was talking with Ken about wheel fitment, he said that 18x9.5 +20's would work all around with some spacing.

I was thinking 15mm spacers up front (18x9.5 +5 in effect) and I'm not sure about what to do with the rears.

I'm going to be rolling the fender lip and stretching it, dont want to go crazy but I do like the style of it. What would be your guys' opinion/recommendations? Do i need a spacer out back, i want the front and rear wheels to be as flush as possible.

Also was thinking 285/35 in rear and 255/40 in front...is that a good setup or should i be looking at different sizes?

Any help is greatly appreciated and pics would be awesome as examples.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin.

I just recently picked up a set of volks racing re30's formula limited 18x9.5 +35 on all 4. planning to wrap them with 265/35/18. I know on the fujita-eng site they recommend 9.5 width with a +35 offset for their front fenders. when i messaged ken he did make a point that it really depends if you want with your wheels. When I test fitted the wheels they seemed pretty flushed with the oem fenders. fujita-eng recommends a 0 - +25 offset if you get the rear fenders . thats just what i know. but you can always talk with the guys at citytireonline.com can help you out with fitment questions if needed.

Depends on what size tire you are running too. I believe, ken runs a 235 on his +5 offset. I dont think you can get away with a +5 offset AND a 255 without at least some negative camber. You might be better off not running a spacer and then using a 255 tire. I have the feed front and rear fenders and I am planning on buying bbs lms in:
19x9+18
19X10+18
With a 245 and 265 respectively.

to the OP: +5mm in the front will not work so don't put the spacers on. +20 and 255/40 will be VERY flush.

Another chaste white 94, nice to see :)

Yea I've been going over the rims and offsets everyone is running and trying to factor in the +25 fenders, I was figuring a +20 would be close, but i'm new to wheel math I'm definitely not a good wheel shopper. Just wanna figure out a nice size range to choose from rather then find a wheel i love but cant get in the right setup.

Kevin.

i don't think your tire selection will produce the look you want.

285/35/18 is a really tall tire for the FD imho. 255/40/18 is also way too tall.

You need to look at tire diameters like

255/35/18
265/35/18
275/35/18
285/30/18

Use this tire calculator and compare the diameter to stock 225/50/16

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

You just using this car for looks and street driving? Depending on your wheel budget I'd run something like

265/35/18 stretched on some 18x10.5's front and rear. Might even be able to do it with RPF1's in the +15 offset. Definitely need camber in the rear.

If you're getting a one piece wheel, not much lip, but concave spoke you can also get the NT03+M

18x10.5 +30, throw the 265's on it, it's like the GRIPPY stretched combo, and then measure how much you need to space it out.

Personally i'd run some 285/30/18 tires all the way around, space em out to match your fenders.

Rishie

Rishie,

What would your recommendations be if i wanted to run 285/30/18 all around, rim wise?

I sort of prefer the staggered tire sizes, was thinking something 265/255-ish up front but if i can make 285 on all 4 corners work I think that would give me the grip I want.

As for my intentions, i like to drive the car not so much show it, mainly like cornering, I'm not really a drag guy but will rip it on a straight empty stretch of highway when with friends. I need something wide out big to handle what my car should put down when the meth is all finished and tuned (last official "tune" was 375ish at 11-12psi without being able to reach redline due to ignition breakup. I now have brand new everything ignition wise, have added 100% methanol injection, and a second fuel pump to the mix. I'm hoping to be able to get some high boost tunes soon)

Personal preference at the moment is a decent lip, not huge (wouldnt be a bad thing tho), and a concave look, preferably on all 4 corners.

So yea if I can squeeze 285/30R18's all the way around definitely let me know the size of the rim. Would I be able to stick with 18x9.5 (or would 18x10 be better) all around if i go to 285/30? if so what would the offset of the 9.5" and 10" widths need to be, along with your recommended wheel width?

Rim budget is pretty flexible at the moment, just need a few more weeks until i can finalize a purchase, still recovering from the last round of parts purchasing. So for now the size would be great.

(once i nail down a size i will gladfully be posting my own reference pics so other customers here will know)

kevin.

I've got the same problem. I've got a set of FN01R-C and I want to run the Feed front and Rear fenders. I question if these wheels would look good on the car or not though. Here are the sizes:

fronts are 18x8.5 48mm
Rears are 18x9.5 35mm

Would that look flush with the fenders or would they be too small? Could I run spacers or something?

For reference in Front

18x9 +28 offset with 255/45/18

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18x9 +35 with 10mm spacer, 255/40/18

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17x10 +38 with 15mm spacer, 255/40/17

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18x10 +15mm 265/35/18 - WARNING, THIS SAME SIZE WILL NOT WORK IN FRONT!!!!

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Unless you are trying to say "I got 285s" you'll never need to use that much tire...just sounds cool. Most tuner cars run 265/35/18, non stagger. Personally, I like my 17s the best, on and off the track.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...270_medium.jpgI have the Feed kit and I run Volk RE30's 18x9's +35(Toyo Proxes R-888's (255/35/18) in front and 18x10.5's +18 (285/30/18) in rear

18x9 +35?I am assuming you are running a spacer to get that to sit flush?

great examples, keep them coming definitely very helpful as i continue my hunt lol.

someday i will find the right rims and have money at the same time.

kevin.

^lol

I hope my wheels look flush with spacers >.<

Hey RE-M.

I like the BBS LMs and the Enkei's you had in the rear. Looks BEEFY.

I guess I should chime in with some details along with pics. But before I begin, just know that I've been constantly thinking from day one on how to get a nice flush setup with the right tire size that would also be ideal for daily driving with minimum sounds/scrapping/issues.

When selecting wheels, it is also important to know "face" or "disk" patterns offered by different manufacturers for different wheels. Two of the same kind of wheels with the same width and offset can offer a different look with different face/disk patterns. I believe this option is available to clear certain big brake kits. However, this is in regards to the size of the "lip" or the appearance of the spokes and should not have anything to do with how "flush" the wheels sit relative to the fenders.

In regards to the FEED front fenders, if you want your wheels to sit "flush" and your car "dumped" (this is the way I like it for a daily driven street car) then you will have no choice but to go with stretched tires and negative camber. If you carefully look at the feed fenders, its most furthest point should be 25mm wider than stock according to FEED. BUT, the fenders "tapers" in to meet an OEM spec front bumper. So technically speaking, your wheels are suppose to be sticking out close to 25mm (roughly an inch) out the side of the bumper when looking from the front of the car. If your car is low and your wheels are flush, you have no choice but to get a slighly stretched tire to clear the front portion or the fenders (area that moves towards the front bumper) during travel. Cambering will help the wheels/tire travel at an angle. Keep in mind Ive had to trim the inner flange of the fenders quite a bit to get the most clearance possible. Trim as much as you can without loosing structural integrity. I've cracked and repaire dmy fenders several times in that front locations just to experiment :).

Another thing about getting it to sit "flush" is.... get what flush? Get the tires flush or get the wheels flush? Getting a relatively close size wheel (mentioned from posters) and getting a tire to sit flush is easier than than trying to get a wheel flush and the right tires to clear during travel without being too stretched. My personal preference leans towards the ladder, but I just want to be clear about the topic as the question is very often asked.


The Gold SSR MS1's I used to have... here are the sizes.

Rears: 19x11 +24 SL disk
275/30 ( I have gone 285/30 with no issues)

Front: 19x9.5 + 30 Lo or Normal Disk WITH a 25mm spacer (in pics below)
Tires 235/35 (I could not go 245/35 wihout hitting) Perhaps 245/30 might have worked. I am not sure.

Because I am rocking a 25mm spacer in the front to get the wheels to sit "flush," I've told several people you can go 9.5 +5mm , which is the same thing as 95 +30 with a 25mm spacer. You'll just end up with more lip.

My next wheels will be a different color SSR sized 18x9.5 +5 and I will show you guys the difference once they arrive. It should sit perfectly fine with a slightly deeper lip... should be roughly 25mm deeper. I am going with 18's only because I want my car even more dumped :).

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8...tures05012.jpg
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http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4...tures05021.jpg
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In regards to the rear... if I can run 19x11+23 with just a flare with minimal issues, then you can certainly be a bit more aggressive with the FEED rear fenders because I am 100% absolutely sure the FEED rear feners offers more clearance than what I have. A safe bet would be 11+ 15. 295 tires should do no problem.

this was a pm i got from ken a while back before i bought my wheels 18x9.5 +35. the album below. will upload some pics of the test fit when i get the chance.
http://picasaweb.google.com/ehang85/...9535AllAround#

When doing wheel fitment, you have to take into consideration offsets as well.


You can go as far as 11 + 23 in the rear.

18x9 is fine.. but must be low offset. It depends on how flush you want the wheels to be as everyone has different preference. The feed cars are definitely not as flush as the setups we're running. Obviously, we're doing it for show and street use, not track use. It all varies.

Ken

I'm running Forgeline Wheels 19x12 +22 rear and 19x8.5 +32 front. Wrapped in Yokohama 315/25/19 and 245/35/19. I could get more agressive in the rear with 335's. There is more room with the Pettit flairs. Car is dropped about 1.5 inchs on Vogland sport springs.

https://www.rx7club.com/picture.php?...&pictureid=976
https://www.rx7club.com/picture.php?...&pictureid=974

How well would 18" 9.5j ET12 all around fit?
FEED front & rear fenders btw.

Cheers

damn picking wheel sure is complicated! I've been reading on the subject but there are still some things I don't completely understand. Now If I decide to go with WORK VS-XX wheels and that I project to put a big brake kit (ie: brembo) but at the same time I want the deepest dish possible! Am I only allowed to choose in the big caliper grid, or would the offsets in deep dish work too?

So let's say big caliper is the only option... I want to go with these sizes

Rear with rolled fender: 19 x 11
Front with Feed fender: 19 x 9.5

what would be the lowest offset I could pick?



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thank you guys

^^^

Your only choices for the FRONT, based on Ken's '19x9.5 +5', is +2 (which would be a 3mm's more aggressive than Ken's), or the +15 (which would be a more conservative fit, allow you to run wider tires and something closer to street spec camber - the route you go depends on what you are trying to acheive)

I'd go with the 19x9.5 +15, which would be more inline with RE-Mamamia's fitment(s).

To be honest though, I think the FD offers alot of BBK room, so you *might* be able to get away with the 'standard disk', say the 19x9.5 +7 (which will give you 97mm of lippage). It's hard to say though since every wheel is different ('disk height' means nothing between different wheels, it's all relative to the same model of wheel pretty much), and every BBK is different.

Worst case scenario you might have to use a spacer to get you the clearance you need. It's up to you if you are ok with spacers (keep in mind you can only use a 3-5mm spacer to stay close to Ken's specs with the 19x9.5 +7); it's been discussed ad nauseum in the wheel forum and elsewhere.

Your best bet is to get a fitment template from the BBK vendor of you choosing, send it to Rishie (Auto RnD, ARD T2 a few posts up,in the vendor forum, Work Wheel Distributor Extraordinaire), and have somebody at the warehouse try out the template on the suitable disk style.

Will 18x9 (front & rear) with a 30 offset

18x9.5 (front & rear) 20mm offset

Staggered:
18x9 (front) 20 mm offset
18x10 (rear) 20 mm offset ?

or 18x8 48mm offset
18x9.5 20mm offset

be flush or work?
Sorry I'm a wheel size/fitment NOOB!
Was in a hit by a car yesterday so I'm getting new fenders.

hey guys, im wondering if a set of fn01s in 17x10 +25 all around with 245/40/17 will fit and be pretty flush, with feed fronts and stock rear i dont really want to pull the quarters. will those tires be okay on a 10 inch wide wheel also or will it be to stretched?

those size will work, but the rear will be slightly sunken in. Spacers will solve your problems :)

Ken

I was reading. Feed suggests & sells 25mm spacers for front and 30mm spacers for rear. Also suggested 17x9.5 all around

:( REALLY SORRY to bring this back from the grave...

I was thinking about getting these

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I want to run the same size rim and tire front and rear. With as wide of a tire, i guess from your post you say go with 265?

I was thinking
18x9.5 in either +30 or +22 or +12 or +0 OR
18x10 in either +30 or +22 or +15 or +0.

Im not looking for hellaflush dropped mad low yo with stretched tires. Im going for a more functional setup, though id like it to be flush. I dont mind some camber, as long as it doesnt become a hinderance on performance, minimal is acceptable.

Thanks in advance if anyone could be kind enough to reply.

I am in the same boat as you man. I am getting these fenders because they are the sickest fenders for the FD, but I didnt plan on needing wheels. I want to make sure if I spend money on wheels they look flush.

I am getting 17's and i have not read anything about people running 17s on their cars. LOL

does anyone have any pics of the Feed fenders on 17 in wheels?