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apex_sideway 11-14-07 11:10 PM

FD- Carbon Fiber interior plastics - GB Interest
 
Is it possible to make all of the plastic interior pieces for the dash (Instrument panel, accesories panel, shifter panel, arm rest panel) as a carbon fiber replacement?

A lot of our cars are aging and those pieces didn't exactly age gracefully. I'm sure there would be a huge market from FD owners looking to replace their interiors :D

TITO2 11-15-07 07:51 AM

I'am intrested in this group buy, but I would want to see some pic's.

dom240sx 11-15-07 07:53 AM

I'm in if someone sold a full kit at a good price

RX72NR 11-15-07 08:58 AM

Just send in your pieces to be wrapped, would be more economical. Be sure to send in the connecting pieces all at once and ask that the patterns line up.

13bhavoc 11-15-07 11:29 AM

I would definately be interested, I dont like the idea of sending my parts to someone unknown. I have had experience with Ken, and would definately do business again with him if he offered these.

TITO2 11-15-07 12:09 PM

Most definately, if Ken it's up for it I'll pm him with this thread.

apex_sideway 11-15-07 07:25 PM

Yeah, i actually have some extra cash laying around for this! And if Shine goes through with this they are going to take all from me :D

EDIT: The reason i want to do this is because the interior pieces look brittle. I'm sure if they make a bolt in kit it would look better than stock and cost less/equal to buying the interior pieces from MAZDA!

puz pounda 11-15-07 08:09 PM

Direct replacements would be really nice, I would definately be intrested if the price was reasonable.

mot 11-16-07 08:36 PM

+1 id also be interested
this is such a good idea 93 rx7s interiors are garbage

TITO2 11-19-07 10:55 AM

Bump.

TITO2 11-19-07 01:32 PM

Just pm'ed Ken with this thread again. :biggrin:.

purerx7 11-19-07 03:36 PM

id be interested as well. would be another shine addition to the FD

bstorm 11-19-07 03:41 PM

i'd be up for it!

gio64 11-19-07 03:50 PM

Yes, but..
 
I could be interested, but I am not so sure I'd like all that cloth pattern and the shine that goes with it in my car...
I kind of like the idea of having some parts, like centre console, Gauge cluster section, hood and door inserts done, but...
FYI, Seibon makes replacements for the doors in CF. I was just snooping around their site today and saw them. They come in one piece and they seem to be direct replacement for the stock.
If weight wasn't an issue, I'd like to see the rest of the car (door panels and rest of dash, rear and what not), done in black leather. With CF inserts for the other pieces...
But I'd like to see a price....

apex_sideway 11-20-07 04:28 AM

Guess I'll start . . .

1. apex_sideway

TITO2 11-20-07 07:34 AM

2.tito2

puz pounda 11-20-07 11:38 AM

3. puz pounda!!!

supraturbo717 11-20-07 04:26 PM

i'm in

13bhavoc 11-20-07 10:56 PM

5) 13bhavoc

apex_sideway 11-20-07 11:10 PM

This is looking promising :D

1. apex_sideway
2. tito2
3. puz pounda
4. supraturbo717
5. 13bhavoc

BlackR1FD3S 11-21-07 11:46 PM

Hey guys i'm just in the process of making a kit to do all the interior plastics in complete CF. So far we're going to replicate:

*The radio surround fascia
*The entire centre console
*The instrument cluster 'hump'
*The plastic inserts that are in the door panels.

In another month, the kit will be ready for retail, but dont know about pricing yet.. I'm trialling the whole CF interior in my R1 at the moment.
PM me if you're at all interested.

TITO2 11-22-07 02:45 PM

Any pic's?^^^^

BlackR1FD3S 11-22-07 06:51 PM

I'm currently working in conjuction with PSI Parts to replicate as much carbon components as possible. As of today, the list of parts which PSI intend to replicate is growing.. Interior as well as exterior. Head on over to www.psiparts.com.au to see some of the carbon work Shane & team are capable of.. I'm donating interior parts to PSI for use in molding & then testing the prototypes on my R1. So far we're brainstorming:

Exterior doorhandles (are aluminium, so they would need an overlay kit, not replicating)
Plastic insert trim on the insides of the doors (power window buttons surround, etc)
The oil cooler hot air vents on either side front fender (scoop inserts behind the wheels)
In the rear of the car there is a strut brace between the rear shock towers. The end caps on each end of it would look good.
The triangular corner pieces in the side windows, near the rear view mirrors
All the triangular pieces around the side window glasses (interior and exterior)
The passenger’s side kick panel, which hides the ECU. Plus drivers side kick panel..
Door entry sill plates
The ‘hump’ which has all the dash instruments in it. Either the front instrument face or the whole hump, pending how difficult that would be..
The entire center console.
RE brake light cover
Cooling Panel
Front and rear Diffusers
Twin headlight conversion (pop-up)
Twin headlight conversion (non pop-up) ST Hood Would love to try this out.
Mirrors KD-I Type II
Canards
Hatch
Full Doors
plenum/engine cover

Is this what you guys want?

Any more ideas, mail me: matthew.algie@hydro.com.au & I'll investigate them. :)

apex_sideway 11-24-07 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by BlackR1FD3S (Post 7540764)
I'm currently working in conjuction with PSI Parts to replicate as much carbon components as possible. As of today, the list of parts which PSI intend to replicate is growing.. Interior as well as exterior. Head on over to www.psiparts.com.au to see some of the carbon work Shane & team are capable of.. I'm donating interior parts to PSI for use in molding & then testing the prototypes on my R1. So far we're brainstorming:

Exterior doorhandles (are aluminium, so they would need an overlay kit, not replicating)
Plastic insert trim on the insides of the doors (power window buttons surround, etc)
The oil cooler hot air vents on either side front fender (scoop inserts behind the wheels)
In the rear of the car there is a strut brace between the rear shock towers. The end caps on each end of it would look good.
The triangular corner pieces in the side windows, near the rear view mirrors
All the triangular pieces around the side window glasses (interior and exterior)
The passenger’s side kick panel, which hides the ECU. Plus drivers side kick panel..
Door entry sill plates
The ‘hump’ which has all the dash instruments in it. Either the front instrument face or the whole hump, pending how difficult that would be..
The entire center console.
RE brake light cover
Cooling Panel
Front and rear Diffusers
Twin headlight conversion (pop-up)
Twin headlight conversion (non pop-up) ST Hood Would love to try this out.
Mirrors KD-I Type II
Canards
Hatch
Full Doors
plenum/engine cover

Is this what you guys want?

Any more ideas, mail me: matthew.algie@hydro.com.au & I'll investigate them. :)

Will this be for left hand drive cars?

exhaustnoteV2 11-24-07 12:44 PM

No offense meant, but do you have anything to back yourself up? You don't exactly have many posts on the forum and I, personally, would feel much more comfortable going with Ken. Everyone has worked with him, we know the quality of his stuff and don't have to worry about him skipping town with a large chunk of change for a GB.


Originally Posted by BlackR1FD3S (Post 7540764)
I'm currently working in conjuction with PSI Parts to replicate as much carbon components as possible. As of today, the list of parts which PSI intend to replicate is growing.. Interior as well as exterior. Head on over to www.psiparts.com.au to see some of the carbon work Shane & team are capable of.. I'm donating interior parts to PSI for use in molding & then testing the prototypes on my R1. So far we're brainstorming:

Exterior doorhandles (are aluminium, so they would need an overlay kit, not replicating)
Plastic insert trim on the insides of the doors (power window buttons surround, etc)
The oil cooler hot air vents on either side front fender (scoop inserts behind the wheels)
In the rear of the car there is a strut brace between the rear shock towers. The end caps on each end of it would look good.
The triangular corner pieces in the side windows, near the rear view mirrors
All the triangular pieces around the side window glasses (interior and exterior)
The passenger’s side kick panel, which hides the ECU. Plus drivers side kick panel..
Door entry sill plates
The ‘hump’ which has all the dash instruments in it. Either the front instrument face or the whole hump, pending how difficult that would be..
The entire center console.
RE brake light cover
Cooling Panel
Front and rear Diffusers
Twin headlight conversion (pop-up)
Twin headlight conversion (non pop-up) ST Hood Would love to try this out.
Mirrors KD-I Type II
Canards
Hatch
Full Doors
plenum/engine cover

Is this what you guys want?

Any more ideas, mail me: matthew.algie@hydro.com.au & I'll investigate them. :)


shineautoproject 11-25-07 12:56 AM

Hey there guys,

Thanks alot for putting us on the top of the list, but have you guys tried contacting EVO-R. They seem to specialize in interior pieces and their cost structure being made overseas would be much better than ours.

We actually have almost no experience doing interior pieces not to mention we have quite a bit of projects at the moment.

Ken

BlackR1FD3S 11-25-07 03:16 PM


No offense meant, but do you have anything to back yourself up? You don't exactly have many posts on the forum and I, personally, would feel much more comfortable going with Ken. Everyone has worked with him, we know the quality of his stuff and don't have to worry about him skipping town with a large chunk of change for a GB.
Jeez, I just joined, maybe thats why I havent posted a lot?? Also, you guys dont really reply on this forum quite often. Thanks for the warm welcome. :Wconfused
I'm just sick of the cheap shiny black plastics that the FD interior is covered in, which end up cracking, getting oily looking & the centre console mounts always bust when fat guys lean on them to push themselves up out of the car. Of the two types of interior finishes the FD's came out with (the wrinkly/speckled finish and the earlier glossy black plastic finish) most of my FD's have the glossy black finish, which just sucks because its prone to scratching.

Unfortunately though, interior parts wont be available for left hand drive cars, because the demand isnt as high as the RH drive owners. Plus, my understanding is that LH drive cars were discontinued in the US before any large numbers of them were sold.

Here's the radio/heater surround we've been doing recently:

Hope this link works ok:
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc00351yp0.jpg

Maybe this link will work..

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc00351yp0.jpg

13bhavoc 11-25-07 03:26 PM

That sucks, my interior trim peices look like crap. The satin stuff is peeling off of it. I wished someone would make an entire kit to buy, instead of the stick on carbon fiber stuff. I really wish youd change your mind ken, I know there is alot of interest in these parts, and we know the quality of you stuff is top notch.

apex_sideway 11-25-07 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by shineautoproject (Post 7547164)
Hey there guys,

Thanks alot for putting us on the top of the list, but have you guys tried contacting EVO-R. They seem to specialize in interior pieces and their cost structure being made overseas would be much better than ours.

We actually have almost no experience doing interior pieces not to mention we have quite a bit of projects at the moment.

Ken

BOOOOOOOOOO! :D

Ah well, i'll bring this back up in 6 months or so!

chaseFDrx7 11-25-07 04:13 PM

Hey I am interested in this EVO-R. how do i get ahold of them. I have actually been looking for interior carbon fiber parts for a while.

darksideperformance 11-25-07 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by BlackR1FD3S (Post 7548530)
Jeez, I just joined, maybe thats why I havent posted a lot?? Also, you guys dont really reply on this forum quite often. Thanks for the warm welcome. :Wconfused
I'm just sick of the cheap shiny black plastics that the FD interior is covered in, which end up cracking, getting oily looking & the centre console mounts always bust when fat guys lean on them to push themselves up out of the car. Of the two types of interior finishes the FD's came out with (the wrinkly/speckled finish and the earlier glossy black plastic finish) most of my FD's have the glossy black finish, which just sucks because its prone to scratching.

Unfortunately though, interior parts wont be available for left hand drive cars, because the demand isnt as high as the RH drive owners. Plus, my understanding is that LH drive cars were discontinued in the US before any large numbers of them were sold.

Here's the radio/heater surround we've been doing recently:

Hope this link works ok:
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc00351yp0.jpg

Maybe this link will work..

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc00351yp0.jpg

Not making a left hand version is poor business practice. The design can just be reversed in any type of cad software program. Finally the part looks very good.

BlackR1FD3S 11-26-07 03:36 PM

We could possibly make LH versions, but that said, we have to get a whole working kit that fits properly into our RH cars before we'll consider mirroring the autocad parts over. IF there's a big enough market for LH drivers, then it could be done easily enough.
And no, none of our stuff is the 'stick on' fake lookalike crap. What you get is real carbon, because I wouldnt let fake stick-on garbage anywhere near my car. Real carbon or nothing! :)
Give us a few months to perfect the fitment of a RH kit, then when we're happy, we'll look at mirroring it over & I'll announce that on this forum somewhere when the time comes..
To give you a rough idea, that carbon radio/heater panel costs $150.00 AUD. For an entire centre console, you'd be looking around the $399.00 mark. I dont know what the whole instrument cluster hump/hood is going to be worth, but it should be similar to the centre console.

I'm trying to post on here more often, but I think the reason I dont get any replies for ages is because as I write this, its 8:35am, and you guys all being in the States, you'd be asleep when I post, correct?

apex_sideway 11-26-07 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by BlackR1FD3S (Post 7552451)
We could possibly make LH versions, but that said, we have to get a whole working kit that fits properly into our RH cars before we'll consider mirroring the autocad parts over. IF there's a big enough market for LH drivers, then it could be done easily enough.
And no, none of our stuff is the 'stick on' fake lookalike crap. What you get is real carbon, because I wouldnt let fake stick-on garbage anywhere near my car. Real carbon or nothing! :)
Give us a few months to perfect the fitment of a RH kit, then when we're happy, we'll look at mirroring it over & I'll announce that on this forum somewhere when the time comes..
To give you a rough idea, that carbon radio/heater panel costs $150.00 AUD. For an entire centre console, you'd be looking around the $399.00 mark. I dont know what the whole instrument cluster hump/hood is going to be worth, but it should be similar to the centre console.

I'm trying to post on here more often, but I think the reason I dont get any replies for ages is because as I write this, its 8:35am, and you guys all being in the States, you'd be asleep when I post, correct?

I'm willing to give a new parts provider a chance, i did buy from SHINE AUTO when they first made it to this forum. and $400 sounds like an AMAZING deal! Be sure to make a seperate thread in the GB section when you make this happen :D

TITO2 11-26-07 08:38 PM

I will also give the new part's provider a chance, welcome Black R1FD3S. Keep us posted on this project.

RX72NR 11-27-07 12:31 AM

5 Attachment(s)
Here's my interior...

TITO2 11-27-07 06:48 AM

RX72NR look's nice :icon_tup: , where did you get your CF interior? And do they make this in plain weave CF? Also why does it look white? Thank's.

shineautoproject 11-27-07 05:39 PM

Exactly. Where did you get that interior Matt :)

killerdeweezer 11-27-07 05:45 PM

hey whats up

killerdeweezer 11-27-07 05:46 PM

i have just jion how is it going

RX72NR 11-27-07 07:20 PM

It looks white because it's silver carbon fiber. I had a local shop ship the interior plastics to Indonesia. It took 3 months to get the parts back. The cost- $1100 usd. The quality is top notch. I drew a diagram of how the pieces fit together so the weave patterns lined up when installed. The parts were covered in fiberglass, resin, c.f. then clear coated. The shop that I went thru is out of business but there are a lot of people wrapping parts these days. Not to mention, there are alot of options with the c.f. I've seen twin weave, plain weave, t-weave kevlar, every color and shade you can think of. You are only limited by your imagination and wallet. Send in your window triangles, if you are satisfied with the quality send the rest later. Ask that all parts are wrapped on the same roll for consistancy. I did this during the engine rebuild so I didn't mind having the car out of operation while the wrapping was performed. Check out my build thread in the n.w. section for alot more pics. Also if you have the standard black c.f. wrapped parts already and you want to add color, you can have a transparent color tinted clear coat sprayed over it. It will turn out dark, but you can blend c.f. to paint better.

BlackR1FD3S 11-28-07 03:44 PM

RX72NR how the heck do you see your tach with all that gear on top of the steering column shroud? :)

We're going to stick to a coarse weave black carbon on our parts (just shipped a whole instrument cluster off to the molding guys this week- instrument panel face and humped hood that tapers into the dash) and I'm waiting to see what it turns out like..
I pulled the instrument cluster out of my R1 to send over, but a funny thing happened- Seems the sun had been on the dash too much over the years & after I unscrewed the screws from the bottom of the cluster & then gave the whole thing a yank to dislodge the clips at the back, it just went 'CLICK' and came away really easily.. Which in my experience rarely ever happens..
Looked behind the cluster at the tapered hood part, and it wasnt there anymore! Shattered into 3" particles & fell into the dash. Sun must've turned it brittle. Anyone else ever have this problem?

Also, another thing- the centre console has a main web which extends down to the trans tunnel for mounting, and there are 2 screws that hold it down.. Is it just me, or does every FD have this mount broken?? I think its because a lot of the 'larger' FD owners lean on the console to push themselves up out of the car on exit, and it breaks the console mount through too much stress. Out of the 11 FDs I've got, only one has an unbroken console (my personal car!) So I'm looking at beefing this mounting web up a lot on the carbon console.

Will post a new thread when we're ready to start selling parts that fit universal LH & RH cars (wings, mirrors) and then the RH interior stuff after that :)

RX72NR 11-29-07 02:37 AM

It's just the angle of the pic, I can see the whole tach range thru the wheel just fine. My only complaint is the brightness those Greddy units put out. Needs a dimmer switch feature. If you ever use silver c.f., I'll send you some oem aluminum scuff plates to be wrapped. Would look awesome with the gold RX-7 logo showing thru.

jef57 11-29-07 03:26 AM

Very Nice...

BlackR1FD3S 11-29-07 03:29 PM

I've got a lot of those alloy scuffplates.. They arent anything special are they? I prefer the plastic ones honestly, cause they dont scratch up so badly..

RX72NR 11-29-07 06:39 PM

I think that they would be easier to wrap.

roddy3 12-01-07 02:51 AM

that silver carbon looks great :icon_tup:

RX72NR 12-01-07 01:56 PM

Thanks, Have you guys tried Aerofiber? They made me a Feed adjustable carbon fiber wing/ spoiler. They offer 1x1 jdm weave and twin, and the quality is top notch!


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